Ben Bishop has come right out and said it: Goalie stats are junk science, at least at their current stage of development.
What seems to have started as a conversation with ESPN’s Grey Wyshynski about the differences between playing for Ken Hitchcock and Jim Montgomery soon became a discussion about the current failures of #fancystats:
“Last year, we were looking at some of the goalie analytics. And they have, like, high-danger save percentage, low-danger save percentage. If you look at the NHL clips, it has all the goals. We pulled up some of the goals, even on myself, and there are goals that they say are from the red line that are actually from the slot, because they clipped it wrong,” he said. “They’re like, ‘This goal is from a low-danger spot.’ But then when you watch the goal, it’s a tip in front of the net. So it’s clipped wrong.”
The problem is that goalies negotiate their contracts on save percentage:
“I don’t take them too seriously because this is someone’s opinion. Especially those high-danger [saves]. That’s someone who’s looking from the press box that sees a play and has an opinion,” Bishop said. “When it’s some old hockey fan that doesn’t even get the shots right on the game, how are they going to get that right? You go to every different building, and sometimes they count the dump-ins as shots on goals. Well, half the buildings don’t count those, because they don’t know the rules. When you go to some buildings, and they don’t count it, and there are four or five shots that don’t count. ... That’s what’s frustrating. That’s what you get paid on. That’s your job.”
A consensus seems to be forming that Bish has a point: There’s too much information the stats community doesn’t have access to yet. Read more. [ESPN]
After yesterday’s 4-2 loss to the Detroit Red Wings, the Dallas Stars are 0-3 on the road.
Saad Yousuf examines their stumbling start this season.
But hey, there’s always a bright side.
Not like it was ever really in question, but Miro Heiskanen played his 10th game tonight. No entry-level slide for him. Pretend like you’re surprised.— Matthew DeFranks (@MDeFranks) October 29, 2018
Around the League(s)
Last Night In #Kill
- Connor McDavid got the GWG in OT as the Oilers – now No. 1 in the Pacific Division – took down the Chicago Blackhawks, 2-1. [Copper And Blue]
The Pittsburgh Penguins honored their home town after a shooting at the city’s Tree of Life Synagogue left 11 people dead.
If you want to know how someone – anyone – could come up with Gritty, meet the guy who parlayed 16 years as the Philly Phanatic into designing his own Lovecraftian horrors. [CBC]
A former hockey player turned graphic designer has come up with a third jersey honoring the Humboldt Broncos.
I’m extremely proud to release these #BroncosStrong jerseys.— Taylor Vause (@wizardofvause) October 28, 2018
They are meant to honour the 4 @SCBroncos lost in the 1986 bus crash, and the 16 @HumboldtBroncos lost in last season’s bus crash.
I hope these jerseys represent all those affected with the respect they deserve. pic.twitter.com/YvhOyuVTaT
And Ryan Kennedy takes a long look at the business of the major juniors, and what they can do for (and to) a young player’s career.
Junior hockey owners aren’t playing with the same kind of dough as the pros, but the stakes are higher for their players. @THNRyanKennedy on the power and responsibility involved in the major junior ranks.— The Hockey News (@TheHockeyNews) October 28, 2018
Read now with All-Access: https://t.co/dlwoP6oAaX pic.twitter.com/knsbVYNtnD
Greetings From Scenic Cedar Park
If you miss Antoine Roussel, you’ll be happy to know he’s still himself. Enjoy.