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Kari Lehtonen extension



fact or fiction?

 

this is a quote from NHL.com

 

Kari Lehtonen finally showed Dallas fans why the Stars wanted him. Dallas acquired Lehtonen from Atlanta prior to the Olympics, signed the former No. 2 draft pick to a four-year deal and let his back heal some more before finally getting him into uniform after the break.

I certainly wasn't aware of any extensions being signed.

 

full story here:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=521793

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Video highlights from the Stars-Sharks game, 16 March


Here are some video highlights from last night's game between the Stars and San Jose Sharks.  It was a great game, up there with the Washington game last Monday in my book (although this one was more of a team effort).  Six different Stars players put the puck into the net eight times, and goalie Kari Lehtonen, getting his second start as a Star, made 45 saves.

For most of the videos, the title comes from a comment made by Ralph or Razor during the video.

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Brandon Segal: The Value of a Right-Handed Shot

The Dallas Stars are supposed to be an offensively impressive and balanced team. All of the pieces are essentially there, with some incredibly talented forwards forming a solid nucleus for this team to build around. But there's always been something missing, that one key ingredient that always seemed to hold this team back:

The right-handed winger.

It fives balance to a scoring line. It makes the center's job much easier, and opens up so much more on the power play. The Stars have Stephane Robidas and Jere Lehtinen, and have drafted a number of right-handers in the past few years, but that's not helping right now.

Brandon Segal is showing what  a difference a rightie can make. His tenacity and finishing ability perfectly compliment Mike Ribeiro and Brenden Morrow, and I don't think it's a coincidence we're really starting to see both of them start to play like we're used to.

It doesn't hurt that Segal has seemed to find a role he truly embraces here in Dallas, and has instantly become a valuable member of the team.

Righties. We need more of them.

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Ovie....


I kind of find it interesting the number of people that support the reckless abandonment Ovechkin plays in the ice with. It almost seems like more people support him than they do Crosby.

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Maybe Time To Experiment With Trevor Daley At Forward?

I doubt this will happen, and its really to bad, but I really would like to see Mark Crawford move Trevor Daley up to forward for a few games to see how he does! 

I truly believe he would thrive up there. In my personal opinion, I think that Trevor is the fastest guy on the Stars. I can't tell you how many times I have seen him bring the puck up from our own end of the ice with a full head of steam, then bust into the opposing teams zone, which usually results in a high quality scoring chance for him or a teammate.  He has a great shot, loves to hit, and is aggressive.  Not only that, he would make a great two way forward since he understands the defensive side of hockey.

Since nothing seems to be working for our Black Shirts on both ends of the ice right now, and it appears that we will be missing the playoffs for a second straight year, I don't see how trying this out can hurt. I mean our defense wouldn't get any worse if we stuck Maxime Fortunas in his place for a few games so we could give this a shot.  We could very well have a diamond in the rough with #6!




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Cap Room



I thought since I am in a good mood I would break down our entire budget situation for next season and discuss possible options going forward.

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Crawford

I do not necessarily agree with the way a lot of Head Coach jobs are treated now a days, in all pro sports, I dont agree with them being the fall guy to spark a team. However I really am at the point in wondering what if anything Crawford is actually doing to make this team better...in any facet. With Morrow, Zubov, Ott, Lehtinen, Richards all spending extended periods of time on the IR this team was actually better off at this point last season.

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The mythical number one on the block

This isn't the post I set out to write initially but well I couldn't let it go. Sorry for the length but I hope it provides useful information about how shortcutting this won't work.

Fixing the defense won't be easy or cheap in terms of talent traded to make the backline respectable. Anyone looking for some overnight immediate and substantial upgrade is going to be disappointed. Its not going to happen. At least 4/6ths of the defense needs to go and perhaps even 5/6ths. Doing it on a budget where you can’t money whip a FA stud like Volchenkov, Kubina, Michalek, or Martin makes it even harder. I’m not calling out Kritter because I’ve seen this thought process by several others on various Dallas boards and her quotes here were just succinct and handy to use. They’re here to illustrate some logic fallacies and debunk one straw man argument.

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My thought is they need to trade for a young-ish (i.e., under 30, and ideally still RFA age), big-time defenseman. Yes, that will cost a lot in terms of player/draft pick assets, but it will definitely address the need in the near future instead of possibly addressing the need in 3-4 years. I get that a player like that may not have been available, or they weren't willing to pay the price available, at the deadline, but I think it's the much smarter way to get the type of player they're looking for.

The list of true number one defensemen in this league is smaller than you think and those who fit the under 30 label reduces it further. In addition those assets are not on the block. Established 1st defensemen who are cost controlled are not moved, ever. Boyle wasn’t under 30 and made too much money. Dallas isn’t going to trade for a 6 million dollar defenseman. If that were the case Visnovsky would be here rather than Anaheim. But just to prove my point here’s the list.

 

Team Name Age salary signed thru
Atlanta Tobias Enstrom 26 3.75 2013
Anaheim none      
Boston none      
Buffalo none      
Calgary Jay Bouwmeester 26 6.8 2014
Carolina Joni Pitkanen 26 4 2011
Chicago Duncan Keith 26 5.53 2023
Chicago Brent Seabrook 24 3.5 2011
Detroit none      
Edmonton none      
Florida Keith Ballard 28 4.2 2015
Los Angeles Drew Doughty 20 ELC 2011  
Minnesota none      
Montreal none      
Nashville Shea Weber 24 4.5 2011
Nashville Ryan Suter 25 3.5 2012
New Jersey none      
NY Islanders none      
NY Rangers Marc Staal 23 RFA  
Ottawa none      
Philadelphia none      
Phoenix Keith Yandle 23 1.5 2011
Pittsburgh Kris Letang 22 RFA  
San Jose none      
St. Louis Erik Johnson 22 RFA  
Tampa Bay Victor Hedman 19 ELC thru 2012  
Toronto Dion Phanuef 24 6.5 2014
Vancouver none      
Washington Mike Green 24 5.25 2012


Of this list Hedman hasn’t reached that point but since Tampa won’t trade him it doesn’t really matter. The bolded names of Ballard, Staal, and Phanuef I would debate are even number ones. But let's say that's true. Ballard is probably on the block but for 4.2 million I'd rather pay Robidas and I'm no fan of Robidas. Staal isn't the true puckmover we need and the price would be Benn or Neal going back the other way and if you're going to give up those assets then I want a better all around guy than even Marc Staal. Phaneuf was just traded for. Burke isn't going to move him after 25 games in a Leafs uniform.

Letang will only be moved if Gonchar signs a long term deal and even then they'll probably trade Goligoski first. Either way the price for them is Neal or Benn. Again, if I'm trading one of them I want a true bonafide stud, not a guy who's still trying to earn that label.

Seabrook may be traded because of the cap but I doubt that will be the case before his current contract expires after next season. They'd be much better off dumping Versteeg and Byfuglien than moving their other stud on the blueline.

So this whole idea of finding a stud under 30 defenseman that Dallas is somehow going to trade for is a non-starter. It won’t happen.

The second list of players are young guys trying to establish themselves on the above level. Some are more solely puck movers and while adequate in their own zone are never going to be labeled as complete defensemen.

 

Team Name
Atlanta Bogosian
Boston Wideman
Buffalo Myers
Calgary Giordano
Colorado Quincy
Edmonton Gilbert
Los Angles Johnson
NY Rangers Gilroy
Ottawa Lee
Philadelphia Coburn
Philadelphia Carle
Pittsburgh Goligoski
St. Louis Pietrangelo
Tampa Bay Foster (UFA)
Tampa Bay Meszaros
Toronto Gunnerson
Vancouver Ehrhoff
Vancouver Edler
Washington Carlson
Washington Alzner


Everyone has played at least a few games in the NHL this season. And I didn't even get into Franson, Blum, Shattenkirk, Sanguinetti, McDonagh, Weber, Sibisa, Bulter, Subban and dozens of other prospects that could be targeted.

These bolded ones are generally either having a down season or players that may have to be moved because of money. Who's better than whom, well that's a matter of opinion and probably even NHL teams would debate the upside of lots of these guys.

I don’t think there’s anyway in the world Atl let’s go of Bogosian, Buffalo Myers, Calgary Giordano, Colorado Quincy, NYR Gilroy, or Van Ehrhoff. Prying Calrson or Alzner is going to take a very nice payment as well.

So yeah the options are rather limited. Once you accept that the idea of rebuilding seems far more likely. Because of that list perhaps five of them turn into true number one studs. The rest become twos and threes and some will wash out completely.

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Most of the players can be good in particular, lower-minute roles, but this team has failed to acquire or draft/develop truly top-end talent.

Okay wait. Daley has yet to be average so far in his career. Keeping him in a lower minute role and paying him 2.3 million for the privilege is poor money management. If he can’t fill a 3-4 spot then he doesn’t need to be on this roster. Why would you want to keep him? Why would it be a good idea to keep him instead of trading for a younger player with better potential? A pick is better than Daley even if it never works out. At least a pick won’t cost 2.3 million of NHL failure in all likelyhood. A new younger guy’s mistakes might be a learning curve for improvement. With Daley what you see is what you get and that’s not very good.

Skrastins is that older vet who finds work but really again I’m going to ask if keeping him for leadership purposes may be the first reason he should go out the door. I’m not blaming him for the failing of everyone but at this point the defense needs a fresh start and anyone associated with the old crew and its leadership probably needs to go.

As for drafting, well Niskanen’s a failure, does that mean they shouldn’t take another defenseman? Larsen’s done pretty well for himself over in the SEL and as long as he stays healthy, really what more can Dallas ask of him then what he’s proving in his current league. You want to question whether Dallas should have taken Kulikov instead of Glennie, I can understand but lets not kid ourselves that had we done so he’d be in the NHL right now. He’d still be playing for Drummondville of the QMJHL this season.

They've focused on offense rather than defense because for whatever reason where they've been drafting they prefer the forward to the defenseman available there. Yes that needs to change some. They have to take a couple of defensemen in this draft but its a matter of cycles. I don't think they've given up on d-prospects as a whole.

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Until they upgrade the defense, and that's going to be very expensive in terms of assets in trade or FA (and no draft pick will help for several years, and none are guaranteed to help, and I don't think they risk that - it's what they've attempted to do with this group).

So they should just stop drafting these players? Let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water. Because Niskanen is a failure they shouldn’t try to draft or acquire other young puck moving defensemen? They’re not all created equal and they don’t all come fully matured at 20, 23, or even 25. You also can’t compare a defensive defenseman like Fistric to a player like Kulikov because they play completely different styles and types of games. People who believe Folwer won’t save this franchise are entirely correct. That doesn’t mean that drafting that type of potential franchise defenseman is a bad thing or that developing him for four years before he’s NHL ready should in any way contradict what’s going on at the NHL level. You have to have a good scouting and drafting system. Players like Eriksson, Neal, and Benn don’t show up on the roster otherwise. Drafting also doesn’t preclude finding NHL ready players through other means. You need the combo platter of NHL talent, prospects and picks. Otherwise you're trying to cheat the development curve and will probably fail. Part of that is targeting guys who’ve played in the AHL. Guys able to step into the NHL now. Thirty or more of those guys show up on various teams throughout the season. Most won’t make it as more than 4s but if you trust your scouting department and believe in your coaching then acquiring a guy in that mold is a solid first step.

And at this point does anyone really want to see another year of this group of defenseman or would you rather watch some young kids and maybe a guy like Coburn or Goligoski? They may not be better as a group but I’d bet money they’ll improve. Can the same be said about Daley, Skrastins, and Niskanen?

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Forgive me for not being excited about a potential draft pick when this defense is made up of mostly draft picks.

Comparing the car you buy off the dealership lot to the car on a NASCAR race track is hardly fair. Dallas is going to get a good pick. The 8th or 10th overall pick is far more likely to make it than the 22nd, 24th, and 33rd selections. And again because Niskanen and Daley didn’t develop the way you want doesn’t mean the method of drafting and developing is flawed it just means those two didn’t reach their potential. In case you’re unaware the AHL and NHL is littered with guys who had amazing potential they never reached. You still have to draft and develop these guys, especially in a salary cap system. Youth failing is a direction. Daley and Skrastins failing is just wasting everyone’s time. If the team is going to be widely inconsistent and again not good I'd rather watch the Islanders plan than the Minnesota one. Young player development is preferable to the hodge podge.

Trading what we’ve got, be it Morrow, Richards, Robidas, Ribeiro, Daley, Skrastins and Niskanen for a combination of picks and younger players is how its going to work. They’re not going to nor should they dump everyone listed above. They’re also not going to limit themselves to all NHL players or all picks and prospects. They’re going to try and walk the fine line of getting both so they can hopefully improve next year and in the future. Once everyone accepts that the question becomes will they try to muddle along and hope things improve. Will they embrace the rebuild? Will they redistribute money and hope it works out and do you trust this management group to get it right? Because if they try and plug holes without really making any major changes this team will continue to finish 16th-24th in the league on a regular basis. No one here wants that.

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Missing Our Finns

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I remember the 2006 Winter Olympics quite well (the hockey, at least) and the one thing that sticks out in my mind, is the fact that I wasn't cheering for Team USA, but for Team Finland. Back when the Stars were a virtual lock for a playoff spot, I always took pride in the fact that we had a higher than average number of Finnish players on the ice. Don't ask me why, but I always had a soft spot for the Finns. With a solid core of hard-working, two-way playing Finns, I feel like we, as fans, were spoiled into thinking that that was the way hockey ought to be played. However, as the years went by, our multitude of Finns slowly leaked out of the system, and as such, the hard-working, tireless play of the Stars came to an end

Kari Lehtonen has rekindled my hopes in seeing a Finnish led Stars team, and has had me thinking... where are all our favorite Finns now?

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Hockey is still a team game: A look at the Dallas Stars' Offense

(...or it's not just the goaltending and defense)

Editors Note: The following is a Fanpost made by our very fine community member TracyJean that we think deserves a little time on the front page for sure. Thanks, Tracy.

A look at the Dallas Stars' offensive output

The goaltending and defense have been beat to death the last two games - really, over the course of this season, so let's take a different tact in looking at why the Stars are losing hockey games.  It's time to look at the offense and their culpability in how the Stars have fared this season.

Offense wins hockey games, doesn't it?  Isn't that why Marc Crawford was hired, to bring his offensive-focused system to Dallas?  Your goaltender can have one of the best games of the year and still lose if the offense doesn't score any goals - after all, your goalie usually cannot help you with that apart from the odd assist (only 9 NHL goalies have ever been credited with scoring a goal).  Just look at the January 10th and February 4th games in Columbus as examples.  The goalie was on his game, but the offense was absent (Jan 10th) or almost completely absent (Feb 4th) and Dallas lost both games.  Last year, two of Marty Turco's three shutouts turned into shootout losses (against Phoenix on Jan 10th and Los Angeles on March 26th).

So let's take a look at the offensive output for this season and see how the Dallas Stars fare when they are scoring goals versus when they are not.  For the purposes of this analysis, I'm using 3 goals as the threshold, as that seems to be the number commonly thrown around as the number needed to win games.  Each month will be broken down by the number of games in which Dallas scored 3 or more goals versus the games in which the team scored 2 or less.

After the jump, Tracy breaks it down month by month...

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