Fleury Outshines Lehtonen As Dallas Stars Fall To Penguins 4-3
Well, NBC got their money's worth tonight. The Pittsburgh Penguins out dueled the Dallas Stars 4-3 in a shootout Wednesday night in front of a house raucously divided. The loss snapped the Stars' four game win streak and tightens things even further in the Western Conference playoff race.
A nice find by Steve Ott got things started in the first when Jamie Benn received a pass right in the slot and beat Fleury to give the Stars a 1-0 lead 15 minutes into the period. The Penguins would not stay quiet for long, however, when Pascal Dupuis made a great cross-ice pass that caught Alex Goligoski cheating a little bit, and Steve Sullivan broke in on Lehtonen uncontested and knotted things at one.
There might not be a better way to describe the second period than "breathtaking." Not necessarily in a good way, most of the time, but it certainly had the home town fans on the edges of their seats throughout. The Penguins enjoyed three power plays and end to end action but couldn't get one past Lehtonen. The Stars struck with just seconds remaining in the frame when Sheldon Souray got a pass in the slot, chaos already having unfolded in front of the net, and beat Fleury to send the Stars to the break with a 2-1 lead.
In the third, a crazy game turned even crazier. The Penguins, who came into this one with a +22 goal differential in third periods this season, scored two quick goals in less than a minute to retake the lead and shock the American Airlines Center. Michael Ryder would answer three tense minutes later to knot the score at three, and then the shenanigans started. Evgeni Malkin mixed it up with Eric Nystrom and then Steve Ott mixed it up with about half the Penguin team as tensions continued to rise into the game's final minutes.
As is often the case this time of year, overtime ensued and the Stars carried a power play over to the extra frame after very nearly ending it in regulation, but they couldn't connect despite a great deflection play for Stephane Robidas and a Sheldon Souray shot that rang off the cross bar. Jamie Benn extended the shootout to an extra round but Kari Lehtonen got beat on three out of four shooters and that, coupled with the Stars inability to take advantage of a bevy of chances earlier in the game, proved to be the difference tonight.
The Stars push their point total up by one to 71, but fall even further back of the Chicago Blackhawks in 7th place, who won a 4-3 game against the Maple Leafs. Dallas now departs for a three game Canadian road swing before coming back for a huge game against the San Jose Sharks.
Back in a few with more observations from this one...
Simply judging from the quality AND quantity of the stops that Fleury was forced to make, it's really hard not to say that the Stars weren't the better team in this one. Certainly 5-on-5. Spending ten minutes out of 60 killing penalties didn't help that cause any.Fleury stopped three breakaways: Fiddler, Burish, and Eriksson. He made another sensational play to stop Loui Eriksson from shoving a puck home with just seconds remaining in regulation. He made a great stop on Robidas at the end of overtime, and the got beat by Souray by that one hit the cross bar. Even when the Stars beat Fleury tonight they had a tough time beating him clean. (Benn, Ryder goals). He was outrageously good and the number one reason why the Stars couldn't get this one. He improves to 6-0-0 in his career over the Dallas Stars.
The big item from this one will be the Eric Nystrom hit on Kris Letang. We've all seen it a dozen times by now and you'll have formed your own opinion, whatever your allegiance. It wasn't a blind side hit, and it wasn't particularly malicious. Letang might want to keep his head up, even, you might say.
That being said, he didn't return and he's probably injured. The NHL has said (right or wrong) that they DO take injuries into account, not just the action itself, and so for that I would guess that Nystrom will receive some kind of supplementary discipline. The number of games is anyone's guess.
Other notes:
- The legend of Ryan Garbutt continues. That one shift alone midway through the second period in which the Stars spent entire minutes in the Pens end was great. He eventually drew the penalty on that sequence and had a shot on goal or two along the way. His ability to impact a game in a short amount of time is impressive, and necessary, seeing as how he only received 5:58 of ice time tonight.
- Does Evgeni Malking ever leave the ice? (Well, except for that double minor, I mean) 24 minutes tonight.
- Jamie Benn looked like good old Jamie Benn in his return, though as I look it up I see he managed just two shots on goal, so that will have to come up. Playing with Burish and Ott, and in the situations in which they'll typically be placed (against team's best lines, defensive zone starts) will limit his productivity, but he's generally able to get chances regardless of where he starts on the ice.
- Quality of competition: From the drop of the puck, when you watch a team like Pittsburgh play in this building, or Vancouver on Sunday, it jumps out at you that "Whoa, this is not Minnesota here." These are elite teams playing an elite brand of hockey, and the Stars have a lot of that coming up in March. A moral victory is worth less than nothing in these situations, but if you want to take some encouragement heading forward, it's that Dallas seems to have some stomach for this kind of high level fight. I don't know if that is enough, but it's better than the alternative.
- Power play disparity: The Stars wound up only having one fewer power plays than the Penguins did, but at the point that it was 5-1 in favor of Pittsburgh you have to think that MOST nights the game might be swung too far in the opponent's direction. Give credit to the Stars killers tonight who kept the clean sheet on the job, but this is a disturbing trend that just won't go away this year, and it was the usual suspects again. Souray, Ott, and Benn. When Brenden Morrow comes back they'll have to be even more careful.
- Dvorak icing play: A weird one happened there where Dvorak was injured on an icing call against the Stars. He didn't take the next faceoff and instead went to the locker room for a short time. Curiously there doesn't appear to be any way to penalize a player on that, as he was allowed to return to the ice later and finish the game. I wondered at the time if you miss that mandatory icing faceoff if you'd be allowed to return. You learn something new every day.
- Say what you want about the crowd being just completely and utterly invaded by people that are supposedly from Pittsburgh, but the closeness of the game added a lot of fuel to that fire with opposing chants and whatnot, and it was a lot of fun. I am typing this sentence as the game is still tied, so we'll see how I feel about that one here in a bit. Update: They dispersed a lot faster than some of the other groups, so at least there's peace and quiet to write. That's as nice as I can be.
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The point is nice.
But now we have a good chance of losing 8th. Tied with LA & COL in GP and only a point ahead…
Still in control of our own destiny.
Not a big deal to lose in OT in a game like that.
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I'm still trying to figure out what the hell Milbury is spouting on about.
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by Dallas_Stars74 on Mar 1, 2012 12:38 AM CST up reply actions
he's focusing on the bad angle replays, that don't actually show the point of contact.
It looks terrible from those angles.
But when you look at the one that shows the actual hit, you can see its perfectly legal.
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agreed
im just aghast at his behavior on the set. i mean come on show some professionalism…geez. im sure it took all the self control in JR’s body to not pound the crap out of that moron
by frozenyeti99 on Feb 29, 2012 9:55 PM CST up reply actions
What a moron.
He acts as though taking the guy out of the play over going after the puck is never acceptable. It’s a defensive play and it’s done tons of times every single game. In the split second Nystrom makes that decision there’s no way he can react to Letang reaching. Watch it at full speed and tell me he can see Letang change positions in time. Note to all defensemen everywhere: Mike Milbury says you must always go after the puck only, and never take the man! And targeting the head? With what his chest? Because that pretty much where Letang wound up. Milbury is an absolute toolbox.
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He did hit him in the head a little bit.
But he pretty clearly wasn’t targeting it.
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There's absolutely a way to penalize a player on an icing race
They just didn’t employ it.
From the icing rule: “Any contact between opposing players while pursuing the puck on an icing must be for the sole purpose of playing the puck and not for eliminating the opponent from playing the puck. Unnecessary or dangerous contact could result in penalties being assessed to the offending player.”
It’s usually a boarding or interference call, and either would have been appropriate in this case.
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Should have been boarding.
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by Brandon Worley on Feb 29, 2012 9:59 PM CST up reply actions
Yup
But like I said, it’s the Pens. They don’t get those calls against them the way most teams do.
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When the hand went up
I thought they called the penalty. I was blown away they called icing only. That was so ridiculous.
by gdemander on Feb 29, 2012 10:23 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Dvorak being shoved into the boards on an icing.
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by Brandon Worley on Feb 29, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
See I read it that people were shocked
That Dvorak didn’t get a double-minor for not being on the ice for the ensuing faceoff.
reading all the comments on other hockey boards just gets my blood boiling.
i should just stick to this site
Lmao....
Where’d you go?
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by Brandon Worley on Feb 29, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
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by sundancekid on Feb 29, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
Our homers are so much nicer
Than everyone else’s.
It was a great game
and they gave good effort.
St some point, though, loser/effort points will stop being enough, and that concerns me.
Well..before, they weren't even getting the loser points.
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by Brandon Worley on Feb 29, 2012 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
I agree.
And I’m actually happy. Just concerned it will not be enough 6 weeks from now.
It might not be....
but this isn’t the game to point to and say “we should’ve had more”
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I think our guys played a very good game . . . good enough to win . . .
But Lehts had a so-so night. Granted, the competition was first class, but he just looked a bit slow sometimes.
All-in-all, it is hard to be disappointed with our guys . . . they played hard, every one of them, and just had a couple of bounces go against them.
by Cowpokealong on Feb 29, 2012 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
They just took three out of four points from two of the best teams in hockey.
Rejoice
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My buddy(?) who is a pens fan
Said we absolutely out played them and should have won that game. Even though we didn’t he was very impressed with the play. When I ‘reminded’ him we were the second lowest paid team he was even more impressed.
However, he had nothing good to say about ott. He did not appreciate ott and strongly dislikes him as a player.
by gdemander on Feb 29, 2012 10:26 PM CST via Android app reply actions
I'm sure he put it just like that.
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by Brandon Worley on Feb 29, 2012 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
fine with me!
I have nothing good to say about Asham.
And Cooke… nothing good to say about him.
Stupid announcers implying Ott was not doing his duty
to mix it up with Asham. Uhh, Ott is playing 2nd line, a key pk guy and our best face off guy. Ott is not stupid … and he would be stupid to get taken out for 5 minutes or more with a bench warmer.
I just saw the Milbury/JR debacle, it really is gold
You can hear a producer or somebody laughing off camera when Milbury tries to fire JR.
It's also linked on the post about the hit from earlier now
Because it is that awesome
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I usually can't stand Roenick and think he's a useless analyst.
But I find myself completely agreeing with him here.
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Unreal video
Milbury is an idiot. The way he went off really got my back up.
but, it made great TV, and NBC will be happy with that i guess
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Hire people who aren’t excruciatingly obnoxious. Failing that, at least hire people who aren’t so homerific that I go “Damnit, this one is on NBCSN. I should have gone in person to avoid hearing these idiots.”
yeah I kinda dread when the Stars are on NBC/VS..
Same thing happened when we were on NBC vs the flyers and the blues. Figured they would have had rose colored glasses on for the Pens. Makes me appreciate Ralph and Razor even more every time I watch another broadcast. Everyone semms to hate Roenick, but he’s really the only one I don’t mind on there. His “analysis” isn’t that great, but I think he’s a good personality
The way Milbury just tried to shout everyone out
made it look like armature hour to me. I would be disappointed if NBC was happy with that.
Though maybe they should roll with it. I would have loved seeing JR tag Milbury like he obviously wanted to after Milbury pushed his jaw. There was a flash of fire in JR’s eyes right then.
Goose -2.
Bad.
What is it good for? Absolutely everything.
by Henri Muroke on Feb 29, 2012 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
Not just the -2 ... but he was a prime reason
that everybody on the ice picked up those two -’s.
Funny how some guys just kill their prior teams while others try too hard, or something and can never do anything. He’s got plenty of time to make it up though.
wow..NBCSN's website has "dirty hit" as the title of nystrom's hit video
bias once again firmly established.
That sequence in the second with the fourth line...
…that was a thing of beauty. That had everyone around me talking, whether they were Stars fans or Pens fans. Not long after that, at a moment when the PP couldn’t get in the zone and set up, a guy behind me yelled to put the fourth line back out there and give them a shot at the PP.
by WingnutInStarsCountry on Feb 29, 2012 11:20 PM CST reply actions
Garbutt was great on that shift.
Wandell and Vincour were just as good though.
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Exactly.
It was all three of them, and the defensemen who were out there, too. I know it got started by a different line (Ott, Benn, Burish? Can’t remember), but they did their shift change and sustained it, and all of them worked together. They frustrated the heck out of the Pens there.
by WingnutInStarsCountry on Mar 1, 2012 8:32 AM CST up reply actions
I don't remember Benn being out there.
I think Ott/Burish took it in while Benn changed…then they followed suit.
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Totally Awesome!!
This was my 7th game this season, prior to tonight the Stars were 6-0 in the games we’ve attended. I’m just going to say that they are still undefeated! The boys put on a show tonight. That sequence sent on forever, they must have been gassed but they never slowed down. It was a thing of beauty. Shootouts suck!!
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When that was going on McGuire I think
said something about the Stars power play. lol it did look like a pp, but it wasn’t. He never did catch himself.
That sequence
started at 8:50 and went to 6:25 in the second period. I just watched it tonight on the NHL Network replay. It is truly something to behold. I bet Gully has watched this over and over. Hard to believe that a team from the Western Conference can actually skate with the big boys of the East /snark
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I really wish Goligoski hadn't been the one looking skyward on two of those goals
It’ll just strengthen the belief shared by seemingly everybody outside of Dallas that we really got the short end of that trade
Long term, we probably did
But we didn’t have any other viable choice. No one looks at the situation- just the results.
If Sid hadn’t been injured this season, who knows what the lineup would have looked like and it may all have been a very different story.
aside from the Nystrom hit
which was completely legal (and for once JR was right), what about all those picks the Pens run? Holy crap. Every 30 seconds or so the refs could be calling them for interference. It’s ridiculous. Even the announcers made a brief allusion to it, and basically brushed off, saying, “Well, it’s the Pens, they don’t get called on that.” What a bunch of horse hooey. A pick is a pick AND it’s interference. Heck, I think if all of a sudden the rules changed and they said Dallas is the only team in the NHL allowed to run picks, I would bet they would score a heck of a lot more goals. Sheesh.
All teams run little picks
It’s just that the Penguins are really good at running a lot of them effectively. I remember a goal from the playoffs (I think) last year where Dave Bolland just barely clipped someone’s skate and it caused them the stumble just enough that they weren’t able to get into a shooting lane to block the shot. It’s part of the game and the Stars do it too, they just aren’t as good at them as the Penguins are.
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Between running “little” picks and outright screens. They look like the Utah Jazz circa 1988. Dayum boyeee. They just skate right into whoever they want to screen out, no worries about full contact at all. They could at least try to be a little more subtle about it.
oh, and....
it’s still interference regardless if “everyone” does it or not.
I can't help but generally like JR
Despite often being completely wrong and frequently annoying. At least he will stand up to those wonks.
If Modano can become friends with him after what he did, he can’t be all bad.
picks and screens are commonly seen in basketball.
An offensive player without possession of the ball will set up shop next to a defender. Then the person with the ball will head off in that direction, and the defender will run into the offensive player standing in the way.
It’s a textbook play in basketball, and it’s a textbook interference in hockey.
Of course, hockey is such a fluid sport (everyone is always moving), that people run into each other all the time. So the refs have to decide whether it’s an intentional pick or just a random incident. That’s what makes it tough to call.
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Interference
That doesnt get called
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That was the most intense home game
I’ve been to in a long time. Going through 3 road games against teams in full arenas in Canada will hopefully help them keep the intensity up. Followed by a home game against the Sharks. It’s time to shine, boys
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It was a really intense crowd last night. Lots of noise in there. :)
by WingnutInStarsCountry on Mar 1, 2012 8:34 AM CST up reply actions
17,500
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by Brandon Worley on Mar 1, 2012 8:59 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
and still one of the national feeds
talked about the ‘disappointing’ crowd. sigh
When the team strings a few wins together, they show up in force.
That’s the nature of the beast right now. The stars have to show to everyone that they are worth paying to see.
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It is utterly, mind-numbingly
infuriating that they base suspensions on if someone is injured. Makes no sense. PUNISHMENT SHOULD BE BASED ON DOING SOMETHING WRONG, NOT IF WHAT YOU DO WRONG HURTS SOMEONE. IF IT’S WRONG AND SOMEONE DOESN’T GET HURT HE SHOULD GET A LESSER SENTENCE. IF SOMEONE IS HURT BUT IT’S NOT A BAD PLAY, THEY SHOULD NOT BE PUNISHED.
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