NHL Trade Deadline & Scoreboard Watching Open Thread
by Brandon Worley on Feb 25, 2012 5:11 PM CST
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PrintIt's a busy Saturday night in the NHL as we sit just two days from the Trade Deadline. As expected, speculation and rumors surrounding certain Star players is growing at a feverish rate with each passing day.
Use this thread to discuss any trade speculation or rumors you've been seeing (we won't post any, not without confirmation) and any breaking trades that may be going down.
We're also looking at a big night for the playoff implications with the Stars. We're going to kick off our scoreboard watching threads for this season tonight, something that is always fun when the Stars are in the hunt for the playoffs (at least for now).
Pheonix, Los Angeles, Chicago, San Jose and Nashville are all playing tonight and mostly against each other.
Here's a big thumbs up to "No Three Point Games Night". Once again, why couldn't it be possible for every team to lose?
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Our next 4 games don't look promising
Nucks, pens, nucks, sharks. Wow
by 91_Stars_21 on Feb 25, 2012 5:13 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Lets win 2 of them!
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wehey i'm bored as hell
we’re going to trade everyone!!! or..or..or we arn’t going to trade anyone. Really don’t wanna see Ott become a Canuck
Maybe it's the win streak we're on
or maybe it’s trying wrap my head around the Stars without Ott or Ribeiro, but I am becoming a lot less adamant in my ‘make a trade’ stance.
I do think we should probably unload Souray since he’s all but certain to not be back next year. But man, Ott in a Canucks or Flyers jersey would be hard to swallow.
Unless we could somehow get Hodgson or JVR.
Coyotes are awesome
They dont give ANYTHING up
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game over in Edmonton
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I hate them, they should be terrible but they just won't do it!
And a friend of mine is a fan and gets endless laughs from mocking me
Well, outside of Ebs, Nuge and Hallsy...
Edmonton is absolute garbage. They controlled the play for a lot of the 3rd, but there was nothing dangerous outside of those three. The others just gave up the puck or couldn’t get a good opporunity.
Hemsky even had all day alone in front to tie it at 2 and fired the puck right into Smith’s chest. Then he gave up a breakaway a couple shifts later. Suddently the Stars are as frustrating to watch as I thought.
Hmm...
I the feeling that goes down with the Stars today.
What is it good for? Absolutely everything.
And I have nothing against it.
What is it good for? Absolutely everything.
by Henri Muroke on Feb 25, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah it looks like it will be a fairly quiet deadline for the Stars.
Unless a team blows joe away with an offer he can’t refuse for Ott or Ribs.
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by T-rom on Feb 25, 2012 5:40 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
I wouldn't be surprised
If we tried to trade Souray. But beyond that unless the offer is very good we aren’t going to be making any major moves.
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Source in Dallas tells me they are “listening to everything about almost everybody over the age of 27” #SNTrade
not surprised
i wonder who all will get moved
by can we get hatcher back on Feb 25, 2012 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
Honestly as long as it isnt Benn or Eriksson
Then I dont care….provided the return is good. Like the guys here, but there needs to be an upgrade of talent and a trend down in age.
by Gregory Smith on Feb 25, 2012 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
One reason why I'm not fan of trading Ott...
Is that next season Stars must make moves about the future of Morrow and Ribeiro.
Perhaps they could do something during this summer and then after next season things might change big time anyway since they also have to decide what to do with Kari. That might be actually interesting to see what happends.
What is it good for? Absolutely everything.
Even though right now everyone is looking this moment right here.
What is it good for? Absolutely everything.
by Henri Muroke on Feb 25, 2012 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
In regards to what to do with Kari
I can’t imagine them not extending his contact, he’s definitely pulling his weight
by Ronin56 on Feb 25, 2012 6:18 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You never know.
I really like the fact that Kari is playing for Dallas.
Still it’s hard too see the future, yet. He might also need a raise and want a long contract. And if he keeps this stuff up, he kinda deserves them.
What is it good for? Absolutely everything.
by Henri Muroke on Feb 25, 2012 8:12 PM CST up reply actions
I hate long term contracts for goalies
anything more than 4 years and I’m probably not going to like the terms. UFA means it’s going to cost plenty already.
So many of those long-term contract seem to work out not so well for goalies
ie – Luongo, Roberto and DiPietro, Rick (although for different reasons)
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Just curious but is everyone's thought about Souray that he's just too old, going to cost too much, not good enough or that there's no way he resigns with us?
Because everything I’ve heard from him makes it sound like he likes it in Dallas and would probably resign if we asked him to stay. I know Gully was saying the other night that he’s also a leader in the locker room and having a veteran presence isn’t always a bad thing. I know he’s not producing as well offensively and I know we’re trying to get younger but I just wasn’t sure what everyone else was thinking. Our trade options seem to be dwindling and I just wonder who would fill his slot if he leaves.
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i think he is too old to stick around
lockeroom presence/leadership stuff is over blown imo
For this year? pardy plays… next year, who knows
i think souray could get a 2nd rounder back at least
by can we get hatcher back on Feb 25, 2012 5:53 PM CST up reply actions
Really? 2nd rounder for an older rental?
I don’t think so.
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Yeah he's 35 and got 3 players a 2nd and 3rd for the Wild.
by Gregory Smith on Feb 25, 2012 5:58 PM CST up reply actions
They overpaid.
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Yeah but Zidlicky has got another year on his contract.
Souray’s a UFA come end of this season.
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Too old.
We need to get younger. Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to re-sign a 35 yr old
robidas can be the between role model for the young guys, we don't need souray too.
by Ronin56 on Feb 25, 2012 6:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
*veteran, not between. stupid autocorrect...
by Ronin56 on Feb 25, 2012 6:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah but a role model and a locker room leader are two different things.
I don’t see Robi as a leader in the locker room. I think that role is important. I just wonder what Gully thinks about that as value.
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even though he is old and slow
a part of me likes having an actual alpha male instead of a pest on the ice…i know thats not a good enough reason but it works for me. lol
by frozenyeti99 on Feb 25, 2012 6:44 PM CST up reply actions
It might if it's another one year contract.
Not sure if Souray would be looking for more, I’m just spitballin’.
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would've loved to see Phoenix lose today
and the Sharks to lose later, but short of that I only really want Philadelphia, Chicago, and Detroit to win… so that the teams behind us don’t gain any ground.
Perhaps you have seen this already, since it's not new.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OohqTf5uvkY
But I kinda love this videom especially during this time of season.
It’s even better if the Stars make it to playoffs.
What is it good for? Absolutely everything.
Good moments for Stars also.
Just takes a while to see them.
What is it good for? Absolutely everything.
by Henri Muroke on Feb 25, 2012 6:01 PM CST up reply actions
What would you guys give up for JVR?
I’d give Ott and Vincour but that’s just me.
by 91_Stars_21 on Feb 25, 2012 6:11 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Someone said Ott and a 2nd rounder wasnt enough.
Maybe Ott, a pick and some prospect? Idk if I wanna send Vincour though.
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by T-rom on Feb 25, 2012 6:15 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'd move him
Pretty much only for a JVR/Hodgson type of player. Otherwise I think he’s one of the few vets that should stick around after they (hopefully) clean house in the summer.
For JVR I’d do Ott, Glennie, 2nd.
I'd give Vincour and the 2nd.
Just move glennie up to the big show
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by Bayouboy99 on Feb 25, 2012 6:21 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
That doesn't come close to getting JVR.
by PrussianBlue on Feb 25, 2012 6:22 PM CST up reply actions
It depends what they want
If they want the cap space when they move him, Stars could add another prospect/pick. If they want roster players they could add on Souray. Not saying it gets it done, just that we’re not sure exactly what Phili is looking for after they picked up Grossman and Kubina.
Colorado already up 2-0 on Detroit?
Yikes. The hockey gods hate us.
Been talking with some Phi and Dal fans on hf about JVR
Ott, Glennie, Conditional 2nd
for
JVR, and maybe a pick
What do you guys think?
if that's what they want, how soon can that happen
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by Bayouboy99 on Feb 25, 2012 6:31 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Haha that's what I was thinking too!
They are also intrigued about the idea of Glennie and Schenn together again
except I like what glennie has been up to
His line in Austin has been putting work for about 2 months, and playing C
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by Bayouboy99 on Feb 25, 2012 6:33 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
*in
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by Bayouboy99 on Feb 25, 2012 6:34 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
O ya, me too
I think JVR has more potential than Glennie though. Can you imagine him and Benn together? Wow.
Which is why we should trade him now
Before he gets another untimely injury, or goes through another slump. I would guess Philly would be more interested in him than others because of the Schenn/Glennie dynamic.
by PrussianBlue on Feb 25, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions
No, giving up Glennie in that deal...
..defeats the purpose of trading Ott.
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by Brandon Worley on Feb 25, 2012 6:34 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
how does that defeat the purpose of trading ott?
JVR is way more likely to reach his potential that glennie is… and he’s already playing in the NHL
by can we get hatcher back on Feb 25, 2012 6:38 PM CST up reply actions
You trade Ott because you want to get younger.
So now you’re not only trading a highly valued Center, you’re also trading a 2nd and a 21 year old 1st round prospect.
Yes, JVR is potentially great. But that’s a high price to pay.
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by Brandon Worley on Feb 25, 2012 6:41 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
i don't think that trading away 29 year old bottom 6 talent and 21 year old potential top 6 talent and a 2nd rounder crapshoot
for 22 year old top 6 talent isn’t productive
by can we get hatcher back on Feb 25, 2012 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
Glennie is progressing better as of late.
And Ott brings a lot of intangibles to the table. Joe will know better then to make that trade.
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by T-rom on Feb 25, 2012 6:51 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
But you are getting a 22-year-old stud
It’s definitely tough giving Glennie away, but give me JVR over him. We’d still be picking in the 2nd round too.
I'm still not convinced.
That’s basically the Stars buying JVR. If Philly wants Ott that bad, they need to overlay a bit.
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by Brandon Worley on Feb 25, 2012 6:55 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
This
You want us to give up a big piece in our playoff drive when we are fighting for our lives? Then you can overpay, k thanks bye.
What...just...happened?
HWTL
by RealDealNeal on Feb 25, 2012 7:59 PM CST up reply actions
this is why we're the same team we have been the last 3 years
Ott would still look good in a Philly jersey.
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by Bayouboy99 on Feb 25, 2012 8:02 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
The last 2 years we've reached a point where injuries expose depth problems and we lose in bunches.
This year 1. Most of the Western Conference tanked after the break. 2. We had a subpar post break. 3. If you get 4 points out of this next stretch you could find yourself safer as Chicago and LA keep falling.
What...just...happened?
HWTL
by RealDealNeal on Feb 25, 2012 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
that still doesn't solve our "need" of getting younger talent
Anything over 28 not named ribs should be talked about. The young guys we’ve already brought up have added something we’ve been lacking. Over paying a bit to add a young guy with real top 6 talent. Yes please do that. This isn’t over paying for a older rental player, we’re talking about here
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by Bayouboy99 on Feb 25, 2012 8:19 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
That is tough
especially with Glennie playing better recently. Not sure I’m ready to give up on him just yet.
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I wouldn't really call it giving up on him
If we landed JVR today, he would instantly be part of the top-6. I don’t think Glennie would be able to do that. They are about the same age too.
I think Glennie's got a future
but I’m not sure it’s better than JVR’s. If that’s what Philly demands that’s one thing. If a kid like Klingberg or some other defender not named Nemeth or the big O then fine.
Hell Robidas, Ott and a 2nd for Carle, JVR and a 3rd.
This makes more sense.
A lot more sense.
But I see no point in trading Ott AND Glennie for JVR, who is far from a guaranteed great player.
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by Brandon Worley on Feb 25, 2012 7:40 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
playoffs?
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by Bayouboy99 on Feb 25, 2012 7:44 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
You mean make that trade for the playoffs this year?
No, a trade like this is for the future.
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by Brandon Worley on Feb 25, 2012 7:47 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
What one player does in one playoff season should not define nor project a career.
I think he’s a great player and I’d love to have him on the Stars…bit not if they have to overpay to get him.
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by Brandon Worley on Feb 25, 2012 7:49 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I completely agree with the first part
, but I don’t really think it’s overpaying (it’s close). Especially in the scenario that doesn’t involve Glennie.
That's my whole point, lol!!!
I would much prefer the 2nd trade, because the whole point of trading Ott is to get younger.
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by Brandon Worley on Feb 25, 2012 7:52 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
dunno
depends on their cap space, what they think of robidas and carle but maybe. I’d prefer that. heck maybe you get another prospect back instead of a pick. dunno who else philly has waiting in the wings but they may have a center/winger available.
yes, I would really like Carle. SJ still regrets trading him
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by Bayouboy99 on Feb 25, 2012 7:48 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Klingberg is not ready, at all, yet.
Not much value right now.
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by Henri Muroke on Feb 25, 2012 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
You joking?
Come on, you know it would take more than that to get JVR. If the Stars could get him for Ott, Glennie, and a 2nd, it would have been done yesterday.
by disposablehero on Feb 25, 2012 7:48 PM CST up reply actions
for jvr and a 5th
I would make that trade. Last time we had 3 fifth round picks, we struck gold with Jamie benn.
by Newt Goodler on Feb 25, 2012 6:38 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
if we could get a second for souray
Than make that trade in a heart beat.
by Newt Goodler on Feb 25, 2012 6:47 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
who would y'all want if ott went to Toronto?
I heard everyone talking about jvr and hodgson, but Toronto is rumored to be in on ott too. I would hope Gardner would be part of the deal. What say you?
by Newt Goodler on Feb 25, 2012 6:55 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Gardner and a first?
Too much to expect? Not enough?
by Newt Goodler on Feb 25, 2012 6:55 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
No way
Kid’s attitude and work ethic are horrible. He couldn’t even stay with the big club when Toronto was having centre issues earlier this year.
How about Colborne?
by StarzenheimerSchmidt on Feb 25, 2012 7:36 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
At least Joe knows Torono's system
He knows the right kids, or people who know the right kids up there.
What...just...happened?
HWTL
by RealDealNeal on Feb 25, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
What is JVRs potential?
Top 3 winger. 30 goal scorer? 40 goal scorer?
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by T-rom on Feb 25, 2012 6:59 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
what he did in the playoffs @ 21 wasn't overrated.
If they want glennie they only get a 4th
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by Bayouboy99 on Feb 25, 2012 7:08 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
30 goal potential.
He hasn’t been healthy this season and has played on the third line and is on 22 goal pace.
I’d do Ott and Glennie. Even if Glennie pans out he doesn’t have JVRs upside. JVR helps immediately and is almost as young as Glennie who might be two years away IF he makes it.
by StarzenheimerSchmidt on Feb 25, 2012 7:05 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
In order for this to happen,
Philly needs to understand how important Ott is to our team and fans
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by T-rom on Feb 25, 2012 7:12 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
we do have to give a little to get that young top 6 stud
This would be a water shed moment for the stars. A pairing of Benn/JVR for the next decade is something to excite the fan base with. I think we have to over pay a little
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by Bayouboy99 on Feb 25, 2012 7:12 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
well teams are going to have to overpay to get ott...
i think it would even out
by can we get hatcher back on Feb 25, 2012 7:14 PM CST up reply actions
Am I out of line by saying...
It seems like we are trading to get Neal back.
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by T-rom on Feb 25, 2012 7:14 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
In a way yes and no
JVR is younger and probably has a lot of potential. Neal is playing with Malkin now.
sounds about right.
But jvr plays more of an all around game. He is more of a complete talent.
by Newt Goodler on Feb 25, 2012 7:18 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
and he's goofier looking.
by Newt Goodler on Feb 25, 2012 7:19 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
and American
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by Bayouboy99 on Feb 25, 2012 7:24 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Stars needed a player like Goose.
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by Brandon Worley on Feb 25, 2012 7:42 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Yes they did
and now they need a player like Neal. Thats the irony.
and I like that trade!
It is ironic.
And maybe is an argument for not making a huge trade now and waiting til summer. But that may not work either.
It is tough to look at this team so lacking in true top 6 talent and not think of what we gave up in Neal. But we absolutely did need a player like Goose and I still think long term he might end up being more valuable.
I wasn't saying we didn't need Goose cuz we absolutely did.
But it’s a little ironic we may be trading to get a player fairly similar to Neal but with possibly more upside.
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by T-rom on Feb 25, 2012 11:00 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yes he is. And LA just scored.
Chicago looks like crap.
And they lost Hjalmarsson again (apparently rushed him back too soon from concussion)
That doesn’t help their D any
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let's make them give us their first for souray
and then make sure they land out of the playoffs
by can we get hatcher back on Feb 25, 2012 7:54 PM CST up reply actions
i don't care who wins
just as long as its not in OT
by can we get hatcher back on Feb 25, 2012 7:31 PM CST up reply actions
I care. LA needs to lose.
So far they are not obliging.
the CBC hot stove people seem to think ott is the 2nd most coveted forward after nash...
by can we get hatcher back on Feb 25, 2012 8:15 PM CST reply actions
Not a whole lot left though.
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by T-rom on Feb 25, 2012 8:18 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hooray...
Eklund says Stars are interested in Knuble, phyi…
Why did I even see that, phyi…
What is it good for? Absolutely everything.
the only way this could be true
Is if knuble were thrown in on a trade for someone else as a salary dump
by Newt Goodler on Feb 25, 2012 8:31 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
And if making up things would be reality.
What is it good for? Absolutely everything.
by Henri Muroke on Feb 25, 2012 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
Indeed. =)
What is it good for? Absolutely everything.
by Henri Muroke on Feb 25, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
Ott will be traded guaranteed.....
Because I just spent $150.00 on a Ott jersey for my son.
by Bubbachewie on Feb 25, 2012 8:46 PM CST via mobile reply actions
tell your son to start choosing players under 27 with NTC's
by can we get hatcher back on Feb 25, 2012 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
That's cold.
=)
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by Henri Muroke on Feb 25, 2012 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
Funny guy
He had a Neal jersey
by Bubbachewie on Feb 25, 2012 9:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
you’d have to get it custom then
the only kids jerseys I found that were already made up were 10 and 29
Well, that stinks. Give the kid some Wheeties!
I still remember the first hockey jersey I had. 5-years old. Get a Stl Hull jersey. Back when they had that stripe of red still. Wore the heck out of that as a kid.
I got my son a 29 jersey at the alumni classic
but he just loves Steve Ott so much, I didn’t care if he was trade bait.
It’s been great taking him to games this year
and having him know who the players are. I’ve got him taking hockey lessons at the Stars Center now….I think he’s going to take to it pretty well.
I never hear anyone say get a #21
That’s a pretty good # on a jersey
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by Bayouboy99 on Feb 25, 2012 9:14 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yeah I never see all that many Eriksson jerseys.
You’d think there’d by a lot of them.
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by T-rom on Feb 25, 2012 9:19 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I've already got a Benn.
Next jersey, after we FINALLY get new thirds, will be either Loui or Kari (haven’t decided yet)
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The Leastern Conference strikes again.
And it seems like all of the teams we want to lose have won/are winning.
FTGE
philly is already down 2-0 to cgy...
by can we get hatcher back on Feb 25, 2012 9:39 PM CST reply actions
I kinda want Philly to lose big.. Holmgren will be more inclined to deal
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and if we win more than everyone else i dont care what they do
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Phoenix takes over the Pac division lead, thereby knocking SJS to 7th,
That team is just unbelievable they way they turn it on this time of year.
I think we’re gonna hold on to 8th tonight based on ROW, but we really need to get at least a point tomorrow.
im worried about over spending this summer
I mean really, if we go for the playoffs and dont make it then what. All the old guys on the last year of there contract walk, the old guys walk. Itll be like groundhog day. didnt we already go through this. and there’s a saying about playing it safe all the time rt.
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Overspending now means losing more than just money.
It’s not like the Stars are in danger of the salary cap.
It also takes more than just one team to want to make a trade. How can you say the Stars aren’t even trying? Perhaps no team wants the older veterans with expiring contracts.
I just don’t get the attitude of “make a trade or its all worthless”.
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by Brandon Worley on Feb 25, 2012 10:39 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
our guys with expiring contracts
Are probably going to go at the deadline if at all, not before. The teams that didn’t get their guy will be scrambling to get someone. That’s when we get people to overpay for souray.
by Newt Goodler on Feb 25, 2012 10:47 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Exactly.
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by Brandon Worley on Feb 25, 2012 10:48 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Thats the way of the world
You overpay on a FA cause you don’t have to give up current assets to get them. They both cost … just in different ways.
that sounds like your next Post
Stars dont make any trades, the sky is falling
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And believe me, I understand the frustration.
But I also want the Stars to be smart.
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by Brandon Worley on Feb 25, 2012 10:47 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
They absolutely need to be smart.
But it’s frustrating as hell sitting here with a mediocre roster and doing nothing.
But whatever happens, happens. I’ll still be a Stars fan on Monday night, and on July 1st, and a year from now, regardless of what moves they make or don’t make.
(That dream of Couturier in a Stars jersey was good, though)
and my dream of a Benn Eriksson JVR line
Domination. Now that’s a top line
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by T-rom on Feb 25, 2012 11:07 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I know, and I think we agree on a lot of the same things
I wanted to start sprinkling in the younger guys a lot sooner than now. I know making a trade isnt as easy as we want it to be. I just dont mind over paying a bit to get that young talented guy now, and spending in FA this summer. Suter will get his and Weber will to. So that leaves Parise as the biggest Potential Franchise Player on the market. Does Someone have a list of the Top 6-8 guys not named those 3 i just did. then maybe I can do some research and get excited about maybe getting one of them. Im pretty close to resignation that come monday there wont be much change. I feel teams will try to low ball Joe, and that wont happen. So its like if this team is playing like this now, then fall flat on there faces in 2-3 weeks. I’ll just be blah, because I have experienced this before, but ill always love the Stars
Its supranatural, you know, a higher level than supernatural
You never know.
Joe is cautious and smart.. But he’s never had a real owner behind him before and he does now.
"The Dallas Cowboys announced they have released Jerry Jones."
by T-rom on Feb 25, 2012 11:46 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
108 6 rows off the ice
I’m psyched
What...just...happened?
HWTL
by RealDealNeal on Feb 25, 2012 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
Correction: GROSS just tied Calgary
Dude has 2 points tonight. He’s putting in the effort for us even in a different uniform.
Lol now we'll get to hear about how Dallas got hosed in the deal.
"The Dallas Cowboys announced they have released Jerry Jones."
by T-rom on Feb 25, 2012 11:29 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
he's still turning pucks over
he’s just benefiting from their crazy offensive system
by can we get hatcher back on Feb 25, 2012 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
3-6-1 in their last 10
for them that is free fall
by can we get hatcher back on Feb 26, 2012 12:03 AM CST up reply actions
six wins in their last 17 games
14 points gained in those 17, I’d say they’re at least in a pretty bad funk.
We need to use this to pass them.
I love it so much when SJ fails, as always.
"The Dallas Cowboys announced they have released Jerry Jones."
by T-rom on Feb 26, 2012 12:07 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
"San Jose Collapse"
The only surprise was that it came 2 months early.
What...just...happened?
HWTL
by RealDealNeal on Feb 26, 2012 12:36 AM CST up reply actions
Lots of Opinions on Ott/Ribeiro
But im curious about the other deals GMJN may/may not make before monday night. What about Burish or Dvorak and Souray.. Lots of ppl on here are very much pro 24/38/20 Line but I think moving out Dvorak maybe in the Ott deal or for picks that could also be shipped out would create a nice whole on that line for a guy like Knuble. Thats where I see that rumor making sense.. This idea has no basis, just spitballing but since SJ was looking at Moen who is supposedly off the block i could see a fit for Burish and a pick heading that way for one of their young RH Dmen (Braun/Demers). That move would be a precusor to Souray going out too. A lot of ppl seeing a quiet deadline on the Stars front but I see the potential for many different possibilities.
I don't see how adding Knuble ever makes sense.
We’re not trying for some king of deep playoff run and he doesn’t add a lot other than age. We need a YOUNG top six forward since we’re really playing for the future of this team and not so much this year. Moving older assets that have the potential to pick up younger forwards, prospects or draft picks is what we should be looking for. Moving those same assets for options that don’t move us toward that end goal of getting younger IMHO is taking a step backwards.
"I know the last couple of years have been especially hard for Stars fans. To all of you: First let me say thank you for your patience and support, and please know that the uncertainty is now over." -- Tom Gaglardi
It doesn't.
Just like Eklund.
What is it good for? Absolutely everything.
by Henri Muroke on Feb 26, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly.
If Eklund said that we’re likely to “pick up Knuble” then in reality we’re probably more likely to actually trade Knuble to the Caps.
"I know the last couple of years have been especially hard for Stars fans. To all of you: First let me say thank you for your patience and support, and please know that the uncertainty is now over." -- Tom Gaglardi
Or Woywitka.
What is it good for? Absolutely everything.
by Henri Muroke on Feb 26, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
In Summary of what I was saying
There are a lot of potential for moves here, even after the win this afternoon against VAN. I know a lot of ppl dont like the suggestion of Knuble, but to me its a smart hockey move… I see Dvorak and Knuble as pretty much the same player except Knuble is a vocal leader that could help should this team make the playoffs this year. With Knuble being out of favor in WAS, I believe he could be acquired for a 6th or 7th, meanwhile flipping Dvorak to another contender for a 3rd or 4th is a real possibility too. Just makes sense to move up in the draft unless you believe that lines chemistry would be utterly destroyed replacing Dvorak with Knuble.
All the trades
I suggested above were with the intent of adding assets for the future, all the while keeping the team a serious contender for a bottom half spot in playoffs, possibly even the division should SJ continue to slide and PHX cools off. I’m most eager to see if GMJN can land an NHL ready young Dman like Braun/Demers to lessen the hurt of moving out Souray for this season, and in that adding a piece to our future.
Just because they've been quiet so far
Doesn’t mean they aren’t going to make a move or 5. Several teams currently slated for the playoffs have situations that dictate that they need to go all-in this year (NJ, maybe Det) and other teams (Was) are going to need help to get there. I’m all for waiting for the scramble after the big guys go.
To me, there was absolutely no reason to do a deal earlier unless teams were willing to overpay. GM Joe is in a position of strength.
I am still ticked at Joe for not dealing Richards last year....
…so I don’t expect him to do much at all.
by death of the cool on Feb 26, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
Richards had a NTC, which he wouldn't waive.
Nieuwendyk couldn’t move him.
I don’t think the Stars have made the playoffs since DBD was founded :-)
It’s all Worley’s fault. - Tsudbury
Joe should have just traded away his NTC
He should be fired for not doing so.
It has been mentioned ad nauseum...
….that the potential return for Richards (he was concussed) did not validate a trade.
by Dallas_Stars74 on Feb 26, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
This topic will never die.
What is it good for? Absolutely everything.
by Henri Muroke on Feb 26, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
NTC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I know the last couple of years have been especially hard for Stars fans. To all of you: First let me say thank you for your patience and support, and please know that the uncertainty is now over." -- Tom Gaglardi
Everytime I see that graphic
I think it’s from a crappy prime time doctor show.
“BREATHE, DAMN YOU! You’re not dying on MY watch!”
This gets better, every time.
What is it good for? Absolutely everything.
by Henri Muroke on Feb 26, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
I know!
Once I saw Graham use this I made a note of it for just such an occasion.
"I know the last couple of years have been especially hard for Stars fans. To all of you: First let me say thank you for your patience and support, and please know that the uncertainty is now over." -- Tom Gaglardi
Senators acquire Ben Bishop for 2nd rounder.
Details on TSN. Great pick-up for Sens if Bishop is what they say he is.
by Dallas_Stars74 on Feb 26, 2012 10:51 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
2013 2nd rounder...
…just to confirm.
by Dallas_Stars74 on Feb 26, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
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