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Dallas Stars January Prospect Rankings: An Infusion Of Youth Forthcoming?

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Last month we discussed the state of the Dallas Stars farm system and how it's evolved under General Manager Joe Nieuwendyk over the past few years. What's been most frustrating for Stars fans is that while we've only recently started to see the excitement some young prospects can bring, it's been a long time since the Stars really enjoyed a number of highly touted prospects turning pro with high hopes for the future.

Over the past few seasons the Stars have made the decision to hold on to their draft picks and attempt to rebuild the system from within while also keeping an eye focused on the future. This current Dallas Stars team has been competitive, yet is bolstered by veterans on short-term contracts; the Stars know that in just a few short years, this team has the potential to become one of the youngest in the NHL.

As we head into the second half of the current season, now the question becomes how quickly we'll start to see some of these names we've been following since they were drafted over the past few summers. It seems the discussion has been centered on the same names for a few seasons now and never about how great they're performing down in Austin. With the exception of Tomas Vincour, Dallas Stars fans have a very little number of players drafted under Nieuwendyk.

That, apparently, is about to quickly change.

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After the past World Juniors tournament in Canada, with Jamieson Oleksiak playing well overall and Patrik Nemeth enjoying a tremendous tournament, head of player development Les Jackson was asked about the immediate future of the Stars prospects that played. He stated that Oleksiak, Jack Campbell and Nemeth would all likely be in Austin next season, with only John Klingberg expected to stay in Europe.

"I think all are ready for that jump, and I think it will be good for our organization,'' Jackson said. ``Each one has pushed forward and learned a lot, and there's still more learning to do this year. But, yes, they are ready for the move up.''

Jamie Oleksiak, playing with the Saginaw Spirit of the OHL this season, has six goals and 11 points in 31 games and has quickly made a name for himself as one of the more complete defensemen in the CHL. While his claim to fame is his tremendous size, Oleksiak stands out because of his exceptional skating ability and puck moving skills, both more advanced at this point in his career than anyone anticipated.

Oleksiak, who played at Northeastern University last season, has the ability to jump straight from the CHL to the AHL, and apparently that's exactly what will happen.

The same for Campbell, who has struggled at times in two seasons in the OHL yet who has played much more consistently lately. The prized goaltender crashed down to earth a bit in this year's tournament yet still remains as one of the better goaltending prospects in the CHL. It will likely do a lot of good for Campbell to get to the Texas Stars and have the chance to work more extensively with Mike Valley, who Campbell has played for in the past.

Patrik Nemeth, who is getting a lot of comparisons to Nicklas Grossman but with a mean streak, has enjoyed a good season in Sweden and had a great tournament as his team won the gold. Nemeth is still a bit raw at times but he is likely on the same curve as Oleksiak and both should be reaching for the NHL at about the same time.

What's incredible, other than the fact these three are heading to the AHL next summer, is the liklihood of even more prospects making it to Austin next season.

Austin Smith, the 23-year old senior from Colgate and the current leading scorer in the NCAA, will become the first true goal-scoring star forward the Texas Stars have had. Smith, a Dallas native, has flown under the radar until this season and the hope is that he is not that far away from making it to the NHL. He's a goal scoring phenom and plays exceptionally well defensively as well; the Stars could certainly use a player of his caliber.

He could also be joined by two other talented forwards, Alex Chiasson and Reilly Smith. Both are juniors and both are in the midst of career seasons. Chiasson plays a power forward game, a big body who isn't afraid to get to the net and who plays physically along the boards. Reilly Smith, who is a bit undersized, has been one of the top players in the NCAA the past two seasons and continues to do nothing but score goals.

It's unknown how many other players might make the jump to pro next season, but six new players -- all needed by the Texas Stars -- is something for any fan to get excited about. These six are in various stages of their development but a few of them are making the jump to the AHL ahead of schedule; their path to the NHL is just a bit shorter now, and the anticipation of finally seeing them in Dallas is building.

Now, the rankings:

1. Jamieson Oleksiak
2. Reilly Smith
3. Jack Campbell
4. Matej Stransky
5. Alex Chiasson
6. Austin Smith
7. Richard Bachman
8. Patrik Nemeth
9. Brenden Dillon
10. Alexander Guptill
11. Matt Fraser
12. Scott Glennie
13. Troy Vance
14. Brett Ritchie
15. Colton Sceviour
16. Emil Molin
17. Tyler Beskorowany
18. Jordie Benn
19. John Klingberg
20. Curtis McKenzie

Jack Campbell takes a bit of a tumble but it's John Klingberg who fell the most. He's struggled this season in Finland and had a horrendous World Juniors tournament and it's obvious he's needs a few more years in Europe to continue to develop. It's unfortunate for such a gifted defenseman but it's expected somewhat given his size.

Alex Guptill makes the biggest jump, landing in our top ten. The true freshman from Michigan has found his scoring touch this season and along with his great size is turning into another great power forward prospect for the Stars.

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That is really exciting about Nemeth Campbell and Oleksiak moving up to the AHL next season.

I’ll have to try a make a lot more Texas games next year.

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by T-rom on Jan 9, 2012 11:37 AM CST reply actions  

Very excited about 2012-13

Campbell, Oleksiak, Nemeth, Austin Smith and maybe even Reilly Smith and Chiasson? Yes, please. This would be a huge boon for Texas. I would argue next year would be the first season that you could really consider Texas a true prospect developing farm team if this happens.

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by scm83x on Jan 9, 2012 11:41 AM CST reply actions  

This kind of development

is going to make the decision on what to do with Grossman as an UFA very difficult. Do you sign him long term with a substantial raise with this much defensive potential pushing up?

Personally I say yes. A big, young, solid defense first guy will be tradeable if it reaches that point.

by 1paniolo on Jan 9, 2012 11:44 AM CST reply actions  

I mentioned it on a Daily Links article a few days back

When I read an article about this, but its going to be fascinating to see how the organisation handles this. We will have a lot of young defencemen in Cedar Park next year Olekisak, Nemeth, Dillion, Benn, Coyle, Labrie are all possibilities. It will be interesting to see whether they will try and get at least one or two of those into the NHL because I think they will want an experienced player there to take them under their wing (Both Fortunus and Ludowich contracts are up at the end of this season) Its a pretty good feeling knowing how much our prospect situation has improved. From a few years back where we had barely any defensive prospects to now having quite playing in the AHL.

It will also be pretty good to see how Austin Smith, Alex Chiasson and Reilly Smith handle the AHL.

by Huw Wales on Jan 9, 2012 11:54 AM CST reply actions  

Not sure I would consider Bachman a "prospect" anymore

Much like Larsen and Vincour, his extended time up with the club might have us removing him from this list in the next rankings.

And I think if even 1/2 of those prospects show up in Austin next year, I might be organizing a road trip down there several times through the season.

by Taylor Baird on Jan 9, 2012 12:01 PM CST reply actions  

lol ... I just saw a friend who lives in Leander

and told him I was going to start coming down and crashing at his place to catch some TX Stars games. He’s into it, even though he is a Rangers fan!

Yeah, don’t see Bachman on this list anymore. I think he is here to stay this season.

by 1paniolo on Jan 9, 2012 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Can't wait!

Hate seeing the Texas Stars sitting at the bottom of their division after so much early success in Cedar Park. I can’t help but think these moves will change that. I think the T-Stars put a great product on the ice every night, regardless of the standings…but nothing brings ’em in like a winner.

by GoStarsGo on Jan 9, 2012 12:05 PM CST reply actions  

Good to see Stransky so high on the list.

He’s been on an absolute tear ever since he was snubbed for the WJCs. I still have no idea why CZE didn’t take him.

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by Tsudbury on Jan 9, 2012 12:15 PM CST reply actions  

Funny you mention Oleksiak at the top. I was watching some Russian feeds from WJC and they

mentioned several times that they have no idea how this “big clumsy bag of pucks” even made it to the WJC and what Canadian team found in Oleksiak. Their “review” of the guy was very unfavorable.

by iHorses on Jan 9, 2012 12:19 PM CST reply actions  

They had russian feeds?

And in english?

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by Tsudbury on Jan 9, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

lol cool....

that definitely makes more sense

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by Tsudbury on Jan 10, 2012 7:19 AM CST up reply actions  

He didn't have the best tournament, but then again Canada didn't play all that well against Russia anyway.

He also received low minutes.

Oleksiak’s biggest strength is his skating ability and his ability to move the puck in transition. Combine that with his size and his reach, and it’s tough to find much fault with the guy.

The fact the Stars are having him turn pro after just one year in the OHL speaks volumes to how they feel about his development. The Stars aren’t exactly known for speeding prospects through the system.

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by Brandon Worley on Jan 9, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I think that Klingberg will return to Sweden next year.

Like Raycroft once, he just failed. Sometimes things just don’t work. He will need a fresh start, that’s it. No worries there, if you are not fan of Jokerit Helsinki.

Nemeth might be something fun. He is pretty cool dude and fans might learn to love him. He is “fun”. Even if he’s coach doesn’t think that way. He smashed russian “matuska” doll in commercial, without asking his coach. He also sometimes starts skating before national anthem is done, that you might not like.

Trevor Daley is my cup of tea.

by Henri Muroke on Jan 9, 2012 12:22 PM CST reply actions  

He definitely has a personality, something that is needed.

Grossman and Eriksson are so quiet, it’s tough for them to get much attention off the ice. Nemeth….this guy is fun to talk to.

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by Brandon Worley on Jan 9, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep.

And he is all about hockey. When the press doesn’t like his stuff, that’s all he says. Enough for me.

Trevor Daley is my cup of tea.

by Henri Muroke on Jan 9, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

this article made my day

i love reading stuff like this. seeing prospects come up and out of nowhere is one of my favorite things about the nhl.
and now we have 6 guys taking the next step. I’v gotta go watch them play.

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by 8thegreat on Jan 9, 2012 12:59 PM CST reply actions  

Definitely exciting

Interesting to see how they play things in free agency. Several guys at F and D who could be ready in the next 1-2 seasons, how will they make sure to leave room for some of them?

I’ve been surprised the last couple updates at how low Fraser is. I didn’t get to see him in preseason at all so maybe it’s based on seeing him. But his goal scoring numbers are impressive for a rookie, 2nd in AHL rookie scoring I believe. And surprised at Sceviour, he can’t have more than 4th line upside if he ever makes it, while a few of the guys behind him have potential to play more of a role at some point I’d think.

by StarzenheimerSchmidt on Jan 9, 2012 1:00 PM CST reply actions  

Fraser has had some major defensive issues this season.

He’s improving, but there’s more to playing hockey than just scoring goals. He was scoring a ton, but still had a minus-12 at one point this season.

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by Brandon Worley on Jan 9, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, just

put him in for offensive zone faceoffs, let him score, then take him off the ice. Hmm..Just kidding.

by StarzenheimerSchmidt on Jan 9, 2012 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Scott Glennie

He’s obviously not producing like he should be. But these are some interesting numbers I researched about him.

-In his first 13 games he only had 1 goal and 1 assist
-In his last 17 games he has, 5 goals and 8 assists
-In his last 6 games he has, 3 goals and 3 assists
-He is one of only 5 players with a + on the team (+1)

Like I said, he is not producing near what a top 10 draftee should be. But it is an improvement over what he was doing at the first of the year, and any improvement is good. Hopefully he can continue to get better and be competing for a roster spot in the near future.

by Henderson33 on Jan 9, 2012 2:39 PM CST reply actions  

What about Stransky?

Not eligible for the AHL next season?

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by Mike Russo on Jan 9, 2012 3:02 PM CST reply actions  

He doesn't turn 20 until 2013 and he only has two seasons in the CHL

So, he either has to go directly to the NHL or stay in the CHL for now.

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by Brandon Worley on Jan 9, 2012 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Didn't Benn make that jump?

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by Tsudbury on Jan 9, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Jamie Benn was 20 years old when he made the jump

So, when he went to training camp in 2009 he had the ability to go to the AHL. We all remember he made the NHL roster and hasn’t looked back.

Could Stransky make the big jump? It’s possible….he’s putting up big numbers right now, although it looks like his defensive game isn’t exactly sharp.

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by Brandon Worley on Jan 9, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, i just couldn't remember if Benn had the ability to go to the AHL or not.

I do remember he didn’t play there at all until after the Dallas season was over.

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by Tsudbury on Jan 9, 2012 6:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Klingberg

I saw the WJHC game between Finland and Sweden on TSN. I noticed He didn’t get much ice time in the early goings of the game, when it was tight and they were sticking to defense first hockey. But once Sweden needed an offensive push, he was out almost the entire 3rd period. I’m not sure how horrendous he was as a whole, but didn’t he have 5 assists in 6 games, or something along those lines? I think he’s a guy that I could have in my top 6 someday, without requiring much of him defensively, sort of like the Avs and Sharks used to do with Sandis Ozolinsh. He’s fun to watch, always cycling the puck, actively pinching along the boards and has tremendous patience with the puck. At one point, he was in the slot and deked his way around a forechecking Finnish player from a standstill position, then let a shot go.

Long term, I just don’t see the need for Grossman on this team. Out of Fistric and Grossman, our two defense first guys who often are compared to one another, at least Fistric has intimidation qualities. Grossman is defensive, but he’s not really all that physical a lot of the time. I think he’s replaceable. Especially if we have Nemeth, Dillon, Oleksiak, Larsen and Benn all nipping at the heels of the NHL now and in the not-too-distant future.

Looking at the current D:

Goligoski- will be a mainstay for a few years to come.
Daley- Similar to Goligoski, but it seems many think less of him- could he be traded?
Robidas- Will be replaced in the next year or two.
Souray- I’d re-sign him for less than 2 million on a 1 year deal; a nice contingency plan until reinforcements are ready.
Pardy- Woywitka 2.0 (hope we can let Benn takeover; I believe what was said on another post by either Worley or someone else about Jamie playing better since he’s been in Dallas).
Fistric- intimidating. Maybe our Bryan Marchment? Long term, probably replaced or traded though. Dillon could fill this void perhaps?
Grossman- Maybe we acquire a defenseman at the deadline to replace him next season, or we move him for someone else? Either way, replaced by someone more capable.

So if we had Larsen, would that make Daley expendable? Does Dillon make Grossman expendable? Could someone replace Robidas now or next season? Someone we already have, or someone we’ll sign or trade for?

by Chris Barnard on Jan 9, 2012 3:27 PM CST reply actions  

I noticed the same thing in that game as well.

I’ve been much higher on Klingberg than others, but the fact is that no matter what his offensive upside may be he’s going to have to figure it out defensively at some point. He’s struggled playing in Finland this season and a move back to Sweden would be good for him.

All I know is that Les Jackson didn’t sound too thrilled with him, he didn’t receive very good scouting reports from the tournament and the word is he’s about two years away from North American hockey.

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by Brandon Worley on Jan 9, 2012 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

doesn't he have a good frame?

Would you not think that a move to Texas, or at least training in the offseason with the Stars staff, namely Gary Roberts, would really help with his progression?

Also- do you think that Daley is or has the potential to be better than Goligoski? His numbers are better this season, though he hasn’t had the injuries. What about Larsen? Do we really need 3 or 4 defensive D-Men? I know the NHL landscape has changed post-lockout, but I remember when the Stars had one of the best defensive corps in the NHL.

Following the same formula for success:

Hatcher- Our Hatcher would have to be more of a 2-way dman, rather than a Stay at home type. Perhaps we don’t have him yet. Or maybe it will be Oleksiak?
Matvichuk- Dillon? Nemeth
Zubov- Goligoski
Sydor- Daley, Larsen, Klingberg
Ludwig-
Chambers-
Manson-

I don’t know where everyone would fit. Any ideas?

by Chris Barnard on Jan 9, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

It's almost impossible to get into what the defensive corp is going to look like in two years.

Especially since so much could change between now and then.

I guess you’re right in a way, that coming to Austin would help him put on weight. But it’s not just his size that is the issue; it’s maturity with the puck when on the ice, it’s learning defensive responsibility. Larsen had stick around in Europe a bit to start to solidify his game and he’s turned out fine.

I think Daley is the most underrated player on this team, BY FAR. He’s signed for a very affordable contract and he’s putting up good numbers this season in a system he feels very comfortable in.

Daley plays a much different game than Goligoski. Daley is good at pressing offensively, getting low and creating chances for himself. Much more flashy, decent defensively.

Goligoski is more like Zubov, in the fact that he’s the catalyst for the transition game and he’s not going to be as flashy with the puck. He’s also better defensively than he gets credit for, although he needs to be paired with the right defenseman to make it work.

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by Brandon Worley on Jan 9, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Daley may be

my favorite defenseman on the team now. Maybe I’m just missing it but I don’t notice the boneheaded turnovers from him that we see from others. I have a harder time gauging players, especially the D, on TV. Goligoski hasn’t been very good at all IMO this season. A lot of bad turnovers.

Offensively Daley looks like a guy who’d be a top point producer among D. Just doesn’t happen, although he’s on course for a career season in that regard. I think when both their careers are done Goligoski will have a lot more points.

by StarzenheimerSchmidt on Jan 10, 2012 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

i dont like the idea of both Campbell and Besko being in Texas next year. Both of these guys should be getting number one starts at whatever level they are at. Maybe Campbell goes the ECHL route.

by TimAH on Jan 9, 2012 5:33 PM CST reply actions  

Reilly Smith has put on weight and is working with Gary Roberts.

At 6’1", 183, Reilly’s got an inch and a few pounds on Ribeiro. He’s also only about 15 pounds lighter than Eriksson. Plus he’s not afraid to play a physical game. He’s shown this year that he can handle himself out on the ice.

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by Happy Girl on Jan 9, 2012 6:26 PM CST reply actions  

Exactly.

Was very impressed with how physical he was and while his size has always been a detractor, it’s not that way this season.

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by Brandon Worley on Jan 9, 2012 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

How's Mackenzie?

Curtis MacKenzie was thought to be a win-at-all-costs grinder in the entry draft when we picked him. How does he look on the ice? Do you think he’ll be a good depth player for us, like a Burish, or maybe something more?

by Chris Barnard on Jan 9, 2012 6:34 PM CST reply actions  

McKenzie is a gritty guy but I think he's going to have trouble cracking the NHL roster for a while.

He’s going to be a good AHL player though and good depth for the system.

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by Brandon Worley on Jan 9, 2012 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I love McKenzie's work ethic and intensity.

He’s a fun player to watch. He had some chemistry early on with Biggs and Czarnik. He’s not a goal scorer and he can take some dumb penalties. Although I have to admit, I’ve been impressed this year with his composure. I think he’s matured a bit. Like Brandon said, I think he’ll probably be a solid AHL player – not sure if he has the speed/skill to make it to the NHL.

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by Happy Girl on Jan 9, 2012 7:46 PM CST up reply actions  

what's the likelihood..

of the Stars prospects making the NHL? Could someone come up with a list of the current prospect group, from Europe, AHL, ECHL, collegiate, juniors, etc and the likelihood that they’ll make pro?

ex: Scott Winkler- 4th line NHL forward; Nico Sacchetti- bust, etc…

by Chris Barnard on Jan 9, 2012 11:20 PM CST reply actions  

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