NHL Tradedeadline 2012

He fits well in system of Gulutzan, but yes… Injuries are the problem with him.

He’s the very definition of a soft player. There are tons of questions about his work ethic, and much like Ovechkin – he cannot play defense worth a crap. He has world class skill – but too often he is content to mail it in.

The only way it would work is if the player has a NTC, and lists only a few teams that he’s willing to go to. I don’t want to sacrifice our future for another rental player. I’d rather wait to see what comes about in free agency.

We got a pretty good player the last time we took a center from the Sabres…might be a good fit to grab another one. I like Derek Roy’s game, he is a career +42 but is a minus this year. He had a short year last season (concussion???) but has played all games this season.

I noticed that Brassard and Vermette may be available. Vermette is a good faceoff man who may have a higher ceiling than Fiddler, though he’s certainly not showing it this year (this could be in large part due to the team he’s with). If we could somehow, someway, swindle Brassard from Scott Howson’s Blue Jackets, we’d be getting a center who could perhaps one day be our number 1 guy. At least until someone better came along.

Realistically, unless we’re willing to give up something significant, like an Eriksson or Benn (no thanks), we’re not going to receive a top guy via a trade very easily. We’re more likely looking at a reclamation project, prospects, someone with a bad contract, etc. It sucks, but these are the times where I just hope that there’s a taker out there like there was in 2008 when we acquired Brad Richards.

Even if we’re offering up a combination of Morrow, Robidas, Daley, Grossman, prospects and picks, I don’t think we can expect the Webers or Nashes of the world to join us unless we’re overpaying or if we have something they’re really wanting. Maybe someone values Glennie as a top prospect; Morrow as an aging, yet valuable winger with experience and leadership qualities; and a defenseman like Daley, Grossman, Robidas, or even Fistric as being someone who they could use as a top 4 defenseman (if they saw things that way). They may likely ask for a pick and another prospect, as well as a younger roster player like a Wandell or Larsen in return.

We shouldn’t expect to get something for nothing. But thinning out our cupboards to make way for newer players in our minor league teams and giving younger players the chance to succeed by creating the space for them might pay off in dividends as well. Maybe we’ll lose a guy like Larsen, Vincour or Glennie that could turn into something special. I hope not (except for Glennie, as I’m losing faith in him), but the return could be well worth it if it improves the on-ice product.

Whatever they do depends on their lineup going forward.

If they stick with Eriksson/Ribeiro/Morrow then they need to focus on finding a LW or C for the Benn/Ryder duo. I don’t think its reasonable to expect them to find that long term fit at the deadline this year, but who knows. A very good short term fit (and potentially longer term fit until you find that guy) is Jussi Jokinen. He’s a solid to very good possession guy, he has a history of generating offense, and he can play decent defense for you.

Hopefully he won’t cost us too much if Joe goes for him.

so were going to most likely cut a deal with a team in need of depth and defense. there a few teams that fit the description and as teams fall further out of playoff contention the number of teams will increase.

we can also take on a short term cap dump from a higher salary team.

my brain begins to hurt when i try to predict a deal, but the deadline should get interesting

Does anyone know? Do you guys all feel confident in Benn as a no. 1 center?

I could actually see us moving him, either in a pkg deal to acquire a forward to replace him, or to just let a guy like Wandell, or eventually- Vincour replace him and wait until next season. Then- maybe a free agent or a rookie could step in, if they’re ready.

I feel like a year ago, a 31 year old Morrow would yield us a top 6 forward in the 4-5 million price range. Maybe a guy like a Versteeg or something like that, not an elite winger obviously. But now- we’re lucky if other teams view Morrow as worth 3 million in contract- or less.

I know people have mentioned Jussi Jokinen, and I wouldn’t mind that, but what about Olli Jokinen from Calgary? I’ve never been his biggest fan, but the price is right, the age is ok, and he’s a big center. At best, he could be a 65-70 point forward. We’re not pressuring him like he was in Calgary, Long Island, LA or Florida to be THE MAN. We’d just need him to be a secondary guy. Why not?

I’ll say this much, there is a 0% chance, if not somehow lower, that the Rangers trade Dan Girardi this season. Staal is just coming back, Sauer is not healthy, and if anything the Rangers will be looking for defense.

Anisimov almost definitely cannot be acquired, but Wolski probably can be.

dont know if we have any chance in getting him or if he is even available but he would be a perfect fit on this team

Grossman/Fistric, Bachman, 2nd round pick for Parise

Larsen, Vincour, and a 1st round pick for Weber

I know that this might not be enough/be too much for these two guys, but we’ve got to start speculation somewhere. I don’t think it hurts our future too much if we can get assurance that we sign those two for 5 or 6 years in the process.

If a deal is struck between the GMs that is contingent on Parise/Weber signing in Dallas long term, Joe will be able to talk to those guys and get it worked out. I hope he does it. Stars need a HUGE splash to be made after this Benn/Ribeiro news.

I really feel that Vincour is going to be a surprise talent for us. I’d much rather move someone like Reilly Smith or Scott Glennie…

http://www.defendingbigd.com/2012/1/15/2709433/spare-change-dog-days-pessimism-and-angelo-esposito#comments

It’s over 230 comments, I don’t think I can copy and paste all of it

Is always a guy I thought would look good in Green, Gold, & Black.

But In Lou We Trust just posted about what they would take for Parise. I say Glennie, Grossman, and a 1st for Parise and maybe a lower pick depending on how we’re doing in the standings at the time of the deal.

Apparently he is leaning towards not retiring.