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NHL Realignment: Adam Burish Talks About NHLPA Decision, Dallas Stars Reaction

[Editor's note: Video of Burish's interview is up, after the jump.]

As the Dallas Stars were gearing up for their big afternoon game against the Edmonton Oilers, most of the talk around the NHL was the news of how realignment for next season would no longer happen. With the NHLPA rejecting the NHL's realignment plan, which would create four conferences and change the playoff format, most of the reaction -- especially with fans -- was entirely negative as directed toward the NHLPA.

With the NHL and NHLPA headed into what will likely be some heated CBA negotiations this summer, many felt this was a power play by the union -- as well as by the league -- that toyed with the fans' emotions and was set up to make the players look bad in this regard. The truth lies somewhere in the middle, perhaps; there's no doubt that Donald Fehr sees this as a golden opportunity to fire a salvo at the league, but there's no doubting that the players had legitimate concerns about the radical plan the NHL was proposing.

Adam Burish, the player's representative for the Dallas Stars, talked after the game about what led to the union's decision to dismiss the NHL's proposal -- as well as the reaction from the players on the Dallas Stars, the team that realignment would have positively impacted the most.

"They went around and asked 'are you in favor are you not in favor' -- for the Stars it would have been great," Burish said. "Our division games, none of them are in the same time zone. Realignment would have been good for the Stars, but would it have been good for the Philadelphia Flyers or the St Louis Blues? Probably not as much."

Much more from Burish after the jump.

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Burish made it very clear that while the realignment plan would have been incredibly great for the Dallas Stars, they had to think about the union and how the plan would affect the league and all the players across it. In the end, there were just too many questions and too many issues for most of the teams and the players for the NHLPA to agree with the plan.

"The tough thing there, as a union, it's not just the Dallas Stars," said Burish. "It's not just one group or the other. We understand the big concern in the conference call was the seven teams versus eight teams, how much easier it is with another team, how easier it is to make the playoffs. That was a big point. It's tough for us as the Stars but you can't look at it as just our team."

When asked about how the players in the Stars locker room reacted, it was obvious that some weren't happy with the union's decision. Alex Goligoski, talking to Defending Big D last week, made it clear he was excited about the changes. Yet, as Burish pointed out, this was about the union and not just one team.

"When it came back and that was the ruling, obviously some of our guys were upset about it. It would have been a lot easier for us. Those guys in Columbus, those guys on the East Coast -- those guys are in their beds every night. It's pretty nice. On the executive board, you have to look at things as a whole and there were things that needed to be fixed that didn't so I think that's ultimately why it's not working out."

That issue -- questions not getting answered and the issues the players had not getting addressed -- was the biggest problem the players had. The NHL, by some reports, failed to respond to the requests from the NHLPA on certain issues and then later went to the union with a set deadline for a decision. With those issues not addressed, it was tough for the union to agree to such a radical change in the alignment of the league and the playoff format.

"I know there was some delays in getting the information that they wanted and they didn't get it right away," said Burish. "I don't know why that happened. I think it was just some miscommunication somewhere, I don't think ultimately it was anybody's fault. I think that we raised some concerns that some teams, that some guys weren't happy about and at the end of the day the NHL said they needed a deadline.

"At the end of the day, I guess it's going to have to wait another year."

Burish made it clear that this was something the players on the Stars wanted and it was likely a tough decision for him to make a representative for the team -- especially considering the amount of travel the team endures each season. Yet, according to Burish, it was actually the proposed playoff format that created the biggest issue with the union -- not the travel.

"That's probably half of it," said Burish, discussing the proposed uneven alignment between conferences. "That was a big part of it. Those Eastern teams had seven teams in their group and the Western teams had eight. Four out of seven is a big difference from four out of eight. That was a big point of discussion and that was probably one of the big factors for why it didn't work."

The one good thing that the NHL did address was the home and home scheduling for every team in the league, meaning that Dallas Stars fans at the AAC would see each team across the NHL at least once per season.

"That was something that everyone was excited about, that was the biggest positive throughout everyone that you got to see every team in your building. I think eventually the NHL has to get there, I think they will get there but I think that was the biggest point that everybody loved about the whole thing."

In the end, the players just had too many concerns and none that were adequately addressed. While there are sure to be conspiracy theories in regards to this being more about the upcoming CBA negotiations, according to Burish this was simply about the players just not feeling good about the radical changes.

"It's tough, but again it's not just about one team in the union," Burish reiterated. "Our guys wanted it, but you can't think that way. There's a lot of other teams in this union and we have to think as a group and as a group we're together on this one."

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Now I feel like an even bigger douchebag for my rant

But, I still feel it should of gone ahead.

Tonight's forecast... a freeze!!!
James Neal - 45 points. Alex Goligoski - 46 points. Nieuwendyk lost?

by Great British Stars Fan on Jan 7, 2012 5:09 PM CST reply actions  

Ummm Burish kept other teams in mind

But from what I’ve read so far it didn’t seem like any of the eastern conference teams gave one #$%^ about the Stars. This seems like Burish is saying what he was told to say.

by DFWFan on Jan 7, 2012 6:11 PM CST reply actions  

I have heard many eastern conference players comment on this but very few players from teams that this would help the most

The PA is just as bad, if not worse, than the owners. Seems like the owners just took the first swing.

by DFWFan on Jan 7, 2012 6:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Tbh I don't think the owners are at fault

For the PR stuff it’s probably the Bettman camp.

Tonight's forecast... a freeze!!!
James Neal - 45 points. Alex Goligoski - 46 points. Nieuwendyk lost?

by Great British Stars Fan on Jan 7, 2012 6:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Dear Adam

I thought you were a better teammate than this. You should have voted to represent your teammates and THEIR best interests. As posted earlier, the other union thugs and teams dont care a hoot about the Stars, but YOU are supposed to. Really disappointing!!

by DFW hockey fan on Jan 7, 2012 6:33 PM CST reply actions  

How do you know he didn't?

He’s talking about the decision as it was ultimately made. I would bet he voted for it, but he’s not going to undercut the decision by saying that unless directly asked. His first quote tells me he was probably for it, there just weren’t enough yes votes (for whatever reason) to get it through.

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by Erin Bolen on Jan 7, 2012 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I get that feeling as well, sounds reluctant that it didn't go through (and probably realised everyone else's stance)

He used two useless examples though, the Flyers and Blues? Seriously they probably benefit from it!

Had he said the Panthers and Lightning…

Tonight's forecast... a freeze!!!
James Neal - 45 points. Alex Goligoski - 46 points. Nieuwendyk lost?

by Great British Stars Fan on Jan 7, 2012 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

The way Burish talked

It seemed as if that while the Stars really wanted it, in his eyes the role of the executive board is to determine what is good for the union as a whole….not just what is good for one team.

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by Brandon Worley on Jan 7, 2012 8:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Sounds to me like he's being told way to say in order to better represent a unified group.

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by Tsudbury on Jan 7, 2012 8:49 PM CST up reply actions  

*what to say

Either way, Bur is put in a tough position there.

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by Tsudbury on Jan 7, 2012 8:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Just by the tone of his voice

and how he was answering the questions, I think he was saying exactly what he thought.

It was a tough choice, bit he had to think about the union.

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by Brandon Worley on Jan 7, 2012 8:52 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

maybe.

Personally, I don’t see what the NHLPA is getting so puffed up about. They raked in the dough this year, even with the salary cap. I don’t think they have much to complain about.

But i’m not going to spend a lot of time arguing about it. I’ll wait until the lockout to do that.

"He punched the highlights out of her hair.... He punched the HIGHLIGHTS out of her hair!!!" -- Young Neil

by Tsudbury on Jan 7, 2012 9:01 PM CST up reply actions  

This is why you need a strong Commish

Let’s face it, the east coast teams aren’t going to mess with a good thing, and teams outside of the loop won’t ever have the numbers to vote plans like this happen.

by cC Dallas on Jan 7, 2012 6:50 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

Here's the easiest solution to the problem......

……Contract the league by 2 teams. Then have four 7 team divisions. Less teams means better players on the remaining teams. Make teams fight for their existence. Bottom 2 teams from this years games are done. Sayanora. Pick up your participation ribbon on the way out.

by cajun_kowboy on Jan 7, 2012 6:53 PM CST reply actions  

Really?

So if a team like the Maple Leafs tanked the rest of the way, they should just toss the Leafs out of the league? You’re probably just being sarcastic…I just can’t detect it in writing. If you’re not, that’s extremely unfair and illogical, in my opinion.

by coolcolin09 on Jan 7, 2012 8:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm serious about contraction....

…..If NHLPA thinks the proposed format is bad because it is unfair to 2 of the divisions, then lose 2 teams and make it an even four 7 team divisions. The league can’t sustain 30 already. Drop 2 teams to the minors and let them play in like the euro soccer leagues. Make games count for a change.

by cajun_kowboy on Jan 7, 2012 8:40 PM CST up reply actions  

amen

45- 50 fewer jobs available will cause a serious backlash by the players. I’m almost sure the current CBA requires player approval to do it.

by Jeff D on Jan 7, 2012 11:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok, like relegation in the Premiere League...

I thought you were flat saying the bottom two teams THIS year would be out of the league forever, and that left me scratching my head. But I understand. It’s certainly an idea, but one that would never ever be accepted by the PA if no one else, as Sugaa pointed out.

by coolcolin09 on Jan 7, 2012 8:57 PM CST up reply actions  

The PA will not approve that as a solution to this problem.

That will mean more players without a place to play in the NHL. They might approve an expansion, but not a contraction.

Now granted, I have no clue if they have a say in things such as expansion/contraction…but we didn’t exactly know how much of a say they had in this part of it in the first place, so I wouldn’t be surprised.

by WingnutInStarsCountry on Jan 8, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Play-Off scenarios

Why does this have to be so hard…do it like it is now…1st place in each division gets in followed by the next 6 in order of point standings? That resolves the whole issue of 7 vs 8 in a conference. If that was the players real issue and not a bargaining ploy it would be easily resolved and could have been agreed upon prior to the Jan. 6 deadline.

by EddieRules on Jan 7, 2012 7:10 PM CST reply actions  

You just need a Western and Eastern conference again.

I know the western divisions have 8 teams and the eastern have 7, but Phoenix probably won’t be in Phoenix for much longer or you can slide a team like Nashville East. Then, take top 8 in each conference. You can still do divisional playoff if you want to. If you have 5 in one division and 3 in another, you can slide the 5th place team over to the other divisional bracket (the AHL did this last year I believe). You lock in a west v. east stanley cup final, but it would fix the playoff issue. You can keep the same scheduling if you desire.

by d1owls4life on Jan 7, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I love Burish...

But if the NHLPA and Fehr can’t realize this was a trap move, then they just needed to force it.
You know the East owners didn’t want to do this, but Buttman told ‘em it wouldn’t pass.
It didn’t cause the Players got Ackbar’d.

by Waywardstars on Jan 7, 2012 9:41 PM CST reply actions  

NHLPA = just another union!

They have no regard for the final customer, the fan that pays their salary. All they care about is what benefits them and this is little more than a power ploy for the upcoming negotiations.
If they really cared about the fans, they would have publicly spoken up sooner and made a good-faith attempt to address the issues.
Burish is supposed to be the Stars’ players’ representative!
He’s supposed to represent OUR players’ position, not just be a union puppet!

So, let me see if I have this right…for quite a few years the Stars and other teams (the West) have been getting screwed by the scheduling while other teams (the East) have enjoyed the greatest benefits. So, here, THE UNION has an opportunity to see more parity for the Stars and the other teams in the West and they say no, let’s continue to let them get screwed because we have a minor issue we don’t like and we don’t care to try to solve it while the more equitable plan is implemented.

Folks, we’ll have extra money in our pockets next season because I smell a walkout by the union on its way.

And the fans will be screwed, again!

by Cowpokealong on Jan 7, 2012 9:41 PM CST reply actions  

As much as i love hockey

I don’t think i can handle another lockout of any length.

and i’m dead serious.

"He punched the highlights out of her hair.... He punched the HIGHLIGHTS out of her hair!!!" -- Young Neil

by Tsudbury on Jan 7, 2012 9:52 PM CST up reply actions  

It hurt the "small market" teams last lock out

If they do it again you may as well move it all to the NE and Canada as everyone else will tell the NHL to bite their collective asses…myself included

by EddieRules on Jan 7, 2012 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I can, but i hate even the idea.

And what would I watch during it’s on. Just Sm-Liiga? Please…

Trevor Daley is my cup of tea.

by Henri Muroke on Jan 8, 2012 1:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Then again.

During last lockout, I was doing my time in army. I was done when the games were starting. And Modano had just signed 5years.

I don’t think I will get any of those things next time.

Trevor Daley is my cup of tea.

by Henri Muroke on Jan 8, 2012 2:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Let's not forget that many of the Stars players have played for teams other than the Stars in their career.

Not only that, but many of them will play for other teams in the future. They would be stupid to look at things from only the perspective of what is best for the Dallas Stars organization. They need to look at what is best for the players in the league as a whole.

by WingnutInStarsCountry on Jan 8, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

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