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Dallas Stars Return To Practice With Eight Healthy Defensemen

Philip Larsen has earned the right now to call himself a regular NHL player.

The Stars went back to work today, preparing to scale the mountain and claim a top eight spot in the West after a tumultuous, injury riddled first half (and then some) of the season.

"We have our fate in our own hands. We have no excuses and our best hockey is coming," said Dallas Stars head coach Glen Gulutzan today after practice. [Twitter]

They sent Philip Larsen, Matt Fraser and Tomas Vincour back to the Texas Stars last week when the break began and the big question was "Who would return?"

Vincour is a real offensive asset, a possession hound, and a big physical presence, but would there be room in a lineup that is now finally healthy? Philip Larsen had been getting the call to suit up and play while Mark Fistric and Adam Pardy sat and watched. The Stars made the choice many expected and brought Larsen back, while Vincour will presumably stay in Cedar Park to play bigger minutes than he might otherwise get in Dallas. The defensive pairings were these today...

Souray-Robidas
Daley-Grossman
Goligoski-Larsen
Fistric-Pardy

It's hard not to look at this and try to read into what's going to happen here, if anything. Teams don't ordinarily carry eight healthy defensemen, so it makes one at least a little curious. Larsen's inclusion in a pair with Goligoski (as it was before the break) makes one think they have every intention of playing him.

The natural line of questioning leads you inexorably to a.) Is health a concern still with Robidas and Souray, thus the extra body? And b.) If everyone really is healthy, is there a transaction pending? (Waivers or trade).

The reality is that there may not be (probably won't be) further development. There doesn't need to be. They have 13 forwards, 8 defensemen and 2 goaltenders to give them a full 23 man roster, and other injuries will come. They always do. Gulutzan said that eight healthy D is "good for the team, but hard on coaches." [Twitter]

The forward lines from practice after the jump...

Star-divide

Forward lines in Frisco this afternoon were these...

Ott-Benn-Ryder
Morrow-Ribeiro-Eriksson
Nystrom-Fiddler-Dvorak
Petersen/Dowell-Wandell-Burish

On paper the Eriksson/Benn/Ryder trio was probably the most effective this year in their limited time together, but having Eriksson play with Ribeiro will hopefully give the team scoring balance that they need down the stretch, and it gives opponents on the road more than one line to match up with.

Jamie Benn added that he is 100% healthy and ready to go.

Tom Wandell and Adam Burish have been relieved of their added responsibility of the last six games, but give the fourth line some nice pieces to work with. That should be some relief to Wandell, who had to run around checking Datsyuk, Stamkos, Warren Peters, and Ryan Getzlaf during all the injuries.

Mike Heika said he has a hunch that Morrow and Ribeiro could still be fighting through pain. If that's the case, even after a huge break for both of them, then it will be that way through the remainder of the season. Say your prayers that Ribeiro's knee can hold up.

Here's the press release on the Philip Larsen call up...

Frisco, TX - The Dallas Stars announced today that the club has recalled defenseman Philip Larsen from the Texas Stars, Dallas' primary affiliate in the American Hockey League (AHL).

Larsen, 22, has skated in 21 games for Dallas this season, scoring one goal and two assists in that span. The Esbjerg, DNK native ranks second among Dallas defensemen with a +7 rating and is averaging 17:10 of time-on-ice per game. Earlier this season, Larsen became the first Danish-born defenseman to score an NHL goal since Poul Popiel in the 1971-72 season for the Vancouver Canucks.

The Dallas Stars faceoff against the Anaheim Ducks on Wednesday night at 9:30 p.m. CT at Honda Center (TV: FOX Sports Southwest PLUS; Radio: 1310 The Ticket). -stars-

Here's a note from the Stars on Saturday's broadcast...

"There has been a change in the broadcast schedule for Saturday's game against the Wild. The game will now be shown on TXA21."

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So Lehtonen is going to play against the 12th place Ducks

And Bachman against the playoff bound Sharks.

Logical.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 30, 2012 4:20 PM CST reply actions  

That actually makes sense to me

Beat the team you’re supposed to, and see if you can beat San Jose that you have basically no hope of catching in the standings anyway. So why don’t you like this again?

by Taylor Baird on Jan 30, 2012 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

The implication.

The underlying message of that is that the Stars don’t think they’re good enough to beat the Sharks, but they should beat the Ducks so they’ll just take their chances against the Sharks. I want my professional sports teams to have something that resembles confidence. They’re closer to San Jose than Anaheim is to them.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 30, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

How do you know that's the implication?

Why can’t it be “we’re confident we have a goaltending tandem that can give us the chance to win every night?”

by Taylor Baird on Jan 30, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

In isolation it could be.

This isn’t new though. Lehtonen has played against inferior competition all season. If you really have a #1 goalie (the message the Stars are actively trying to promote) then he should play against the best the NHL throws out there (going by their logic) unless there are extenuating circumstances.

I don’t like the way they manage goalies. They’re building Lehtonen up as a #1 goalie when, really, he’s a slightly above average goalie who isn’t (overall) playing the most difficult games. That leads to overpaying him when his contract is due. It’s more of a continuation of the usage I’ve had an issue with from this season rather than the one particular game…though I still don’t like the idea of him starting vs Anaheim instead of SJ.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 30, 2012 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Anaheim is not as "inferior" as their record would suggest

I’d rather beat them and make sure they don’t have the edge on the Stars with head-to-head win record in case it comes down to a tie breaker than try to beat a red-hot Sharks team they can’t catch.

by Taylor Baird on Jan 30, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Anaheim is significantly worse than San Jose.

The goal differential difference between the two is -40.

You can’t be worried about the Ducks catching the Stars, and then say the Stars can’t catch the Sharks. The Stars are closer to the Sharks than the Ducks are to the Stars.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 30, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Lately

though, Anaheim is very good. Something like wins in nine of the last 11.

by StarzenheimerSchmidt on Jan 30, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Right, because Hiller has rebounded.

They’re still unlikely to catch the Stars. If they fall behind Anaheim its because they’ve gone on an epic hot streak or the Stars have fallen off a cliff.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 30, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Point is

right now Anaheim is playing as well as San Jose so Kari isn’t necessarily playing against the inferior opponent,,,,right now.

by StarzenheimerSchmidt on Jan 30, 2012 5:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Anaheim is hotter, but talent wise they aren't a better team.

I’d rather see the Stars put the goalie they believe is their best goalie on the ice against the higher caliber teams.

The one game doesn’t really matter since shooting percentages/save percentages are luck driven, but the pattern of consistently starting Lehtonen against lower level competition is annoying.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 30, 2012 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

And, for what it's worth, I understand the logic.

I just don’t like it. it’s subservient. There’s no arrogance/confidence/assertiveness to it.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 30, 2012 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

You're cherrypicking words.

They aren’t assertive as a group, and this appears to be a reflection of that to me.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 30, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Usually on a back to back Lehtonen always gets the 1st game

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by T-rom on Jan 30, 2012 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah...routine.

Instead of strategy. Like rolling the top 3 lines instead if matching them.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 30, 2012 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

It's their first game back.

While I agree with basically everything you’re saying. Maybe he just wants Kari in for the first game back while the team in front of him tries to knock the rust off. Of course, our starts out of the break the last two years have been horrendous with Kari starting out of the break (I assume). Also, a Stars regulation win should basically bury the Ducks (11 points back).

by staelfissh on Jan 30, 2012 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

we should stop looking in the rear-view mirror

and try and win every stupid game in front of us.

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by graylikethecolor on Jan 30, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Honestly, I'm just glad we have what I'd call a reliable backup goalie

But, I do see a scenario where I’d want Bachman playing against Anaheim and Kari against San Jose.
However, going on the hope that Kari’s play will carry over to the Anaheim game, and we get that game, that’s probably what Gully is going for. I don’t necessarily see starting Bachman as a sign we’re “giving up” that game.

by DFWTrojanTuba on Jan 30, 2012 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

The coaching staff cannot

do anything to please Josh. Its a little bit like feeding the troll to even debate him about this. He certainly has the right and may have the justification to feel this way. Instead of a slightly passive/aggressive interaction with him, I think it would be productive if he would post his overall feelings and be done with it. This is too much of a one trick pony argument that is now permiating Brandon’s posts, also.
Why not straightforwardly build your case that Gully showed be replaced/taken behind the woodshed?

by mcgee48c on Jan 30, 2012 6:13 PM CST reply actions  

What about my posts now?

And Josh has built his case, over the course of several posts that detail why certain decisions being made are questionable.

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by Brandon Worley on Jan 31, 2012 7:55 AM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Heck even I'M starting to agree with Josh.

And that almost never happens.

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by Tsudbury on Jan 31, 2012 8:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Ok...this is actually bothering me.

I can’t speak for Josh, but I want to address certain things you’ve said the past few days.

First, I think my negativity is rubbing you the wrong way. And I’ll admit, my statements in the post yesterday were a bit scathing. But what I brought up is something we’ve built as an argument over the past few weeks with hard statistics to back it up, and it’s been a frustrating process.

I, by nature, am an extraordinarily optimistic Dallas Stars fan. One reason I started this blog was because of the pervasive negativity that existed on HF Boards, the official team boards and elsewhere. I wanted a grounded, realistic approach to the Stars….and that’s what I do.

I’ve been doing this nearly every day for three years. Writing multiple articles about the Dallas Stars….every. single. day. Seven days a week. Now, I’ve added some writers so we can space out the work load but in the past three years I have personally published 1,106 articles on this blog.

There will be times that I can’t be positive every post. I can’t always find a positive spin on the Stars. Right now, I’m frustrated. I’m frustrated that I’m writing almost the exact same post-All Star break article for the third straight year. I’m frustrated that the front office isn’t being more aggressive with certain aspects of the organization. I’m frustrated with Gulutzan’s decision making.

You know what? That’s my job. We are critical of every aspect of the Dallas Stars players and their performance on the ice; being critical and analytic of coaching decisions is something that we are allowed to do as well. We try to balance our criticism with numbers to back it up, and that’s one major reason I brought Josh on board — because his statistics help to provide a clearer picture of what is really going on.

I also brought Josh on because we don’t always see eye to eye. I like that. I love a good hockey debate. I love debating all things hockey and the Dallas Stars, I think it’s healthy and I’d be concerned if everyone always agreed, every single time. I like having you — the readers — hold me accountable for what I write. If you don’t agree with something I say, question it and be prepared for me to back up my feelings and thoughts.

I may not agree with Josh’s opinion on the goaltender situation, but he wrote an article recently that highlighted WHY he is frustrated with how the goalies are used. He can back up his opinion.

I don’t see anything wrong with that.

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by Brandon Worley on Jan 31, 2012 8:22 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Please

continue to be critical when needed. If I want to read nothing but positivity I’ll stick to DallasStars.com.

by StarzenheimerSchmidt on Jan 31, 2012 9:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Before calling me a troll, read what I write.
Why not straightforwardly build your case that Gully showed be replaced/taken behind the woodshed?

I didn’t say he should be replaced. I didn’t say he should be taken out behind the woodshed. I said they don’t do much tactically. If you want to extrapolate that to a broader generalization, be my guest. Those aren’t my words though. I think he’s a rookie head coach, supported by a relatively inexperienced front office, and as a group they’re struggling. Particularly, i think they lack in in-game management.

I had a national writer send me a message when watching the Stars a few weeks back asking me what the Stars line combos are because quote “I have no idea what’s going on.”

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by Josh Lile on Jan 31, 2012 8:29 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't care who they play Bachman against...

As long as they play him. I don’t want to see them drive Lehtonen into the ground again this year.

by Ronin56 on Jan 30, 2012 7:03 PM CST reply actions  

I love Gully's thinking

I love having the idea of playing Bachman against the sharks. He had a really good period when he played them back in December. He controlled his rebounds and most importantly kept a clean sheet. I think the true concern is the fact that Pardy is getting on the ice again. Mr. Pardy should not be seeing the ice anymore as a Dallas Star.

by Starsfan12 on Jan 30, 2012 7:28 PM CST reply actions  

A starter has not been named for San jose

But obviously… You start your number one coming out of a big break. You obviously do that. You have to fight and claw for every point from now on even more desperately. You obviously start doing that by putting your best foot forward. You start Kari in Anaheim, no question.

What you do after that… that’s the part we can talk about.

by Brad Gardner on Jan 30, 2012 10:30 PM CST reply actions  

I don't see what difference that makes.

He should be rested to start both given that they’re coming off the break anyway.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 30, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions  

If your argument

Is that he should start both… then yes. I agree.

If your argument is that Bachman should play in Anaheim, then I have a big problem with that.

In the past when Gulutzan has failed, on a day like to day, to name a start for the second night…it has been Kari. Now.. he got injured one time and pulled the other, but it has been Kari. I kind of expect it to be this time as well, but we’ll see what happens at Honda Center first.

by Brad Gardner on Jan 30, 2012 11:27 PM CST up reply actions  

If this were a normal stretch uninterupted by an All Star break

I would want Bachman to start in Anaheim. As it is? Lehtonen should be out there for both. If you don’t think he’s durable enough to play back to back games against division rivals after getting a week off then he’s either hurt or not a number one goalie.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 31, 2012 12:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Kari just shutout the Ducks

You think he’s not going to get the first game back post a 7 day break?

by Unholy_Prince on Jan 30, 2012 10:46 PM CST reply actions  

Since we haven't been able to lock Josh up with

scoring chance analysis over the break, he has gotten ornery and cantankerous.

by 1paniolo on Jan 30, 2012 11:37 PM CST reply actions  

cantankerousness

is the number one side effect of All-Star breaks.

Look it up.

by Brad Gardner on Jan 30, 2012 11:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I looked it up.

And you’re a liar.

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by Tsudbury on Jan 31, 2012 7:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Nah, neither.

Inflection can’t be conveyed over the internet.

Really, I’d just like to have some hope. They don’t give me much reason to hope for better things right now, and going through all the reasons why makes it look like either A) I don’t even like hockey or B) I’m a miserable human being. Neither are completely true.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 31, 2012 12:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I was just pulling your leg.

But I agree with you (damn, hate it when that happens!). When you look at the body of work to date it is really hard to be optimistic. The are kind of looking like what they are … a young team with an inexperianced coach on one of the cheapest teams in the NHL. You could make a good case that they have over achieved to this point. And now they need to take a significant step up?

But hope springs eternal in the heart of a fan. So I’m tieing my hopes to them being healthy (and somehow remaining that way) and the pp finally turning and starting to contribute. Stranger things have happened …. right?

by 1paniolo on Jan 31, 2012 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, I know you are.

There are certain things I’d like to see to be hopeful that I don’t see. If they’d just pick one direction my outlook would probably be much different.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 31, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

If you are hoping to see Gully

suddenly start paying attention to zone starts and do a better job at matching lines on the fly and give Benn/Eriksson the most pp time I wouldn’t hold my breath after a short all-star break. I hope I’m wrong.

But we do have a really good 5v5 team, some health and a bit of puck luck on the pp to gain confidence and … we’ll see.

by 1paniolo on Jan 31, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think the 5v5 team is that great.

It’s ok, but nothing special.

If they started using the youth that has shown some promise I’d be optimistic.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 31, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

OK, it's not great

but it is better than any other aspect of our play.

by 1paniolo on Jan 31, 2012 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

It looks like they are going to play Larson

and sit Pardy and his $2m. Last year that would have been our 2nd highest paid D-man.

Doesn’t look like a lot of change at forward. But that is pretty tough for a young 1st year coach to demote your Captain. That could be really destabilizing. The only other guy would be Ott, but he’s been money on the dot. Other than those two who would you see moving off a top line?

by 1paniolo on Jan 31, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think they're going to move anyone off of the top two lines.

I’d like to see Vincour get 8-9 fourth line minutes and some PP time. 11ish minutes a night.

Ideally the third line would be a fourth line, and Ott would center a third line.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 31, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I would love to see this.

But we are kind of stuck without a top 6 and a whole new 3rd line. Which is what it is. Don’t see much happening there till summer. But until then I would like to see some young guys growing on the ice. Though the only one I would really push for is Vincour.

I’ll try to look at it as glass half full with at least Larsen pushing out some higher paid guys. Last year no way that happens. And you know at least one forward will get hurt, so hopefully Vincour gets in and makes a strong case not to send him back.

Wonder how close Vincour is getting to the waiver threshold? I think he still has a good bit left.

by 1paniolo on Jan 31, 2012 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Doesn't matter to me what goalie they use

Both goalies give the Stars a “chance to win”. If they didn’t, they shouldn’t be on the roster. Yes, Kari is the better more experienced goalie but you can’t play him all 82 games.
Any team is capable of beating another and we only just scraped the win against the Ducks last time around. Looks like Feb is a busy month, so sure, give Bachman some playing time too.
The Stars might actually be looking at this from the perspective of “we have as good a chance of beating San Jose as we do the Ducks, so let’s just roll the ’tenders”. Of course, I have no way of knowing if that is their mindset, but it’s possible.

by MurrayW on Jan 31, 2012 2:28 AM CST reply actions  

Would the logic not be to give both goaltenders a game so they're both sharp?

And anyway, much rather win the game we MUST win than the one which doesn’t make as much of a difference

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by Great British Stars Fan on Jan 31, 2012 6:08 AM CST reply actions  

They both make just as much of a difference

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by Josh Lile on Jan 31, 2012 7:24 AM CST up reply actions  

By that logic neither of the next two games matter.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 31, 2012 8:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Personally, I can understand wanting to play Lehtonen coming out of the break.

But I also think he should play both games.

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by Brandon Worley on Jan 31, 2012 8:29 AM CST up reply actions  

It's really not that big of a deal in isolation.

It just doesn’t make sense to me why you’d keep playing your supposed #1 goalie against weaker competition. It makes me think of the Halak/Price situation from a couple years ago.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 31, 2012 8:34 AM CST up reply actions  

I think

Montreal thought Price was better. No way the Stars think Bachman is better than Lehts. I think it’s coincidence he’s played against weaker competition. I doubt they even realize it. I don’t think any of us would have realized it if it didn’t show up in your statistical analysis and you hadn’t pointed it out to us.

by StarzenheimerSchmidt on Jan 31, 2012 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Montreal did think Price was better. That's why they moved Halak for the package they were able to get.

I don’t think they think Bachman is better than Lehtonen either. The problem I have with it stems from part of what you said:

I doubt they even realize it

I have trouble with that idea. Doesn’t that strike you as half ass?

The other consequence is that if Bachman continues to play as well as Lehtonen, but against stronger competition, at what point do you concede that he is as good/better than Lehtonen? It’s way too early now, but at some point the question is going to be more valid if Bachman continues to play well.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 31, 2012 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I do

It would take a couple years of better play to think Bachman is better. A lot of below average goaltenders put together a great year or two. Statistically Lehtonen has been “slightly above average” as a starter for several years.

by StarzenheimerSchmidt on Jan 31, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

But how does the Lehtonen/backup situation compare to other #1 goalies in the league?

I remember Razor saying once that it’s the backup’s lot in life to take all the crappy starts. Is this something a lot of teams do, or is it a Stars-only thing?

by Sugaa on Jan 31, 2012 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

That's something I'm going to look more into next week.

I have a last minute obligation I have to prepare for all week for Friday or else I’d do it now.

The only situation that immediately comes to mind that I remember breaking down that way is the Price/Halak one. Price started a significantly more difficult schedule of games vs Halak that year.

That isn’t to say that no others have…I just don’t recall anyone looking at individual goalie tandems like that on a broad scale.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 31, 2012 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

I've wondered that too

But since I think the majority of the cases where Lehtonen has faced ‘lesser’ competition has come on the 2nd night of back to backs. Part of that is that we have just happened to get harder teams on a lot of our back to backs. Specifically in those cases (back to backs with the 2nd game against a tougher opponent) I wonder how the league plays their #1?

by 1paniolo on Jan 31, 2012 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

It's definitely worth looking into.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 31, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions  

It's unfortunate that the first time he played both in a back to back, he was injured.

I think that’s going to cause Gully a lot of mental anguish every time he thinks about putting him back in.

I think Bachman is more than capable, but, with the all star break and a 2 day break coming up after saturday’s game, I agree. Give Kari both starts.

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by Tsudbury on Jan 31, 2012 8:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Seriously?

Did you even read what I wrote?

by Travis Drybread on Jan 31, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

The one sentence? Yeah.
And those against the teams seeded 6-11 are even more so.

The Sharks are the 3rd seed and the Ducks are the 12th seed so they’re not as important according to what you said. What am I misunderstanding? I disagree that these next two games aren’t as valuable as playing a 6-11th place team. They need points…badly.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 31, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

What I meant by it was that all games against the West are valuable,

but those against the teams hovering around the 8 seed are even more valuable because giving two points away to those teams hurts us much more than giving them away to the teams that are already playoff locks or are already out of it.

by Travis Drybread on Jan 31, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Personally, I love all of you even when I disagree with you vehemently.

Which I do. I disagree with everyone who posted any comments for either side in this debate. That way I’m covered.

My thing is, I don’t really know what to think. I’m still holding out hope that our biggest problems with inconsistency did have a lot to do with the health of some key players over long stretches…and Raycroft pretty much losing every game. I’ve made that argument before though. I know those haven’t been the only issues but I hope we can at least eliminate them as symptoms so we can fix the real problems. Now that we’re healthy as a team, I hope that is going to make a big difference. I think Bachman is perfectly capable of beating the Sharks but that doesn’t mean I think he should get the start over Kari going back to back. I understand the frustration because I think most of us feel the same way. I’m just waiting to see these first couple games back to see if management really knows what they’re doing, the team has finally turned a corner and we’re actually going to be better after the break than we were before it. I’m still hopeful.

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by EagleBelf on Jan 31, 2012 11:27 AM CST reply actions  

I disagree.

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by Tsudbury on Jan 31, 2012 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Touché

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by EagleBelf on Jan 31, 2012 12:32 PM CST reply actions  

supposed to be in response to Tsudsy

"I know the last couple of years have been especially hard for Stars fans. To all of you: First let me say thank you for your patience and support, and please know that the uncertainty is now over." -- Tom Gaglardi

by EagleBelf on Jan 31, 2012 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Enough comments about the anaheim game being more important

Were in a fight with many teams for a couple of playoff positions maybe even just one position. Doesn’t matter who we are playing anymore every single game is important. I wouldn’t be surprised if Lehtonen plays against anaheim and then depending how that game goes they could start him again against san jose especially if he doesnt get a huge workload. I must say I am a lot more confident in bachman than I was in Raycroft. He is a solid goalie with good rebound control and he is a young guy trying to prove himself so that could be beneficial. Bottomline is we have the lowest payroll in the league and we have just recently brought in an excellent owner who wants to win and didnt just buy this team so he could say he owns a sports franchise. He actually cares. I thought it was pretty cool to see the owner, general manager, coach and franchise player skating together you dont see that too often. I think we have a lot to be pleased with and have a future to look forward to whether we make the playoffs this year or not.

by Traptors on Jan 31, 2012 1:45 PM CST reply actions  

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