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What Does The Average Dallas Stars Game Look Like?

We've finally reached the midpoint of the 2011-12 season, and it's time to take a look back at how the Stars have gotten to this point. I have 39* games of scoring chance data that I've recorded for the Stars, and I've wanted to start looking at it more closely to see what conclusions we can draw about the Stars. Half a season, while a small sample still, is a reasonable landmark to take a step back to examine what we have in front of us.

NHL.com and Charter Cable ate two of the games. Sorry.

What I've done is tried to answer the question "What does the average Stars game look like?". The database I'm collecting has period by period totals, game by game totals, situational numbers, player totals, and team splits. I've used these numbers to recreate what the average Stars game looks like at it's most simplistic level. I've made some assumptions along the way to make it easier on me (read: less time consuming) that I will explain after the jump. So, if you're prepared to see what it looks like when you cram 41 (39) Stars games into two all-encompassing charts follow the jump.

Star-divide

Before we get into what the average Stars game looks like I am going to take a few moments to describe the methodology I used to come up with the charts. It isn't overly complicated, but it is involved. I started with the overall team scoring chance and ice time numbers. The first chart, you'll recognize it as the chart usually before the jump on a random game scoring chance post, is a recreation of a chart from the database. I just divided the total numbers by 39 (which is how many games are in the database) to take a simple average of what the overall game looks like.

The player numbers are where things get tricky. I wanted to show what the average game looks like at a team level, not what the average game of a particular player was. So I optimized the lineup to an extent. I determined the most common set of 18 players by games played. The top 12 forwards and the top 6 defensemen were considered for ice time in this fake game. Jordie Benn, Krys Barch, Adam Pardy, Tomas Vincour, Philip Larsen, and Toby Petersen are sitting idle.

With the 18 players isolated I wanted to credit each with fair ice time that they would see in a given game, and I wanted to credit special teams play appropriately. Using NHL.com's special teams minute breakdown I ended up giving the Stars 51.5 even strength, 5.7 powerplay, and 2.8 short handed minutes per game to be divided out amongst the 18 selected players.

Finally, to divide the ice time up and appropriately award scoring chances I began with Corsi Relative Quality of Teammates. I sorted the Stars by QoT to get the most appropriate line matchups as possible since they vary over the course of the season. From there I put the lines together with even strength ice times of the individual players, and estimated how the four lines would divide ice time. I ended up crediting the lines with ice time as follows: 15, 14.5, 12, and 10 minutes. I credited each defense pair with 17 minutes of even strength ice time since they generally roll them over the boards. Mark Fistric's 14 minutes per game skews this a bit, but I'm under no illusions that this is a perfect representation of a Stars game. It's a detailed estimation. I did a similar trick for special teams distribution. The special teams distribution was 3 and 2.7 minutes for the power play vs 2.25 and 1.55 for the special teamers.

With the players and ice time nailed down it became a simple matter of massaging the database to get the numbers I'm looking for. I simply took each players scoring chances per minute in all three situations and multiplied those by the amount of minutes they were assigned in each situation to estimate what they would do in this average Stars game.

The lineup for the average Stars game should look pretty familiar.

1 Ott Ribeiro Morrow
Souray Robidas
2 Eriksson Benn Ryder
Goligoski Fistric
3 Dvorak Fiddler Nystrom
Daley Grossman
4 Dowell Wandell Burish
pp
1 Morrow Ribeiro Ryder
Goligoski Daley
2 Ott Eriksson Benn
Robidas Souray
PK
1 Fiddler Dvorak
Robidas Daley
2 Eriksson Ott
Grossman Souray


On average that lineup is being outchanced about 11-12 in the average Stars game. They generally play a strong first period, play a miserable second period, then rebound to bring the game back to equilibrium in the third. The second period is both their worst defensive and offensive period by far. The special teams remain consistent across the three periods, but the even strength play drops off dramatically. My initial thought about the second period struggles goes back to coaching since I'm very underwhelmed by the in game strategy (or lack thereof) that the Stars employ, but that could be biased. The second period is when a coaching deficiency would show up though since the other team would have an intermission tactical changes.

Per Totals EV PP 5V3PP SH 5V3SH
1 3.95 3.82 3.03 2.92 0.85 0.10 0 0 0.13 0.74 0 0.03
2 3.21 4.46 2.44 3.31 0.69 0.13 0 0 0.08 0.97 0 0.03
3 3.64 3.41 2.95 2.41 0.54 0.18 0.03 0 0.1 0.82 0 0
Totals 10.79 11.69 8.41 8.64 2.08 1.18 0.3 0 0.31 2.54 0 0.05


The individual player report has a few key bullet points worth pointing out. The first is the awesomeness of Jamie Benn. He's generated almost twice as many chances as he's given up to lead the Stars by a healthy margin. The Stars fourth line is a fourth line. They aren't offensively skilled, but they don't kill you defensively. The Stars best powerplay performer in the average game is Trevor Daley who is expected to generate 1.31 PP scoring chances in this game. The Stars best penalty killing defenseman is Nicklas Grossman by leaps and bounds. In this average game he would be expected to not give up any chances more often than not. He and Loui Eriksson have been key to the Stars PK resurgence. The Stars second line is very vulnerable defensively, particularly Morrow. He would be expcted to give up 3.52 chances against in the average Stars game. The closest person to Morrow is Alex Goligoski, but he's significantly more valuable offensively.

EVTOI=Even Strength TOI
EVSCF=Even Strength Scoring Chances For
EVSCA=Even Strength Scoring Chances Against
Etc.

NAME P EVTOI EVSCF EVSCA PPTOI PPSCF PPSCA SHTOI SHSCF SHSCA
GROSSMAN D 17 2.35 2.89 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.55 0.05 0.43
ROBIDAS D 17 3.34 3.01 2.70 0.92 0.15 2.25 0.14 1.10
DALEY D 17 2.99 3.28 3.00 1.31 0.32 2.25 0.10 0.84
FISTRIC D 17 2.22 2.67 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
GOLIGOSKI D 17 3.88 3.36 3.00 1.04 0.20 0.00 0.00 0.00
SOURAY D 17 2.86 3.25 2.70 0.95 0.18 1.55 0.08 0.76
MORROW F 15 2.58 3.52 3.00 0.98 0.16 0.00 0.00 0.00
DOWELL F 10 1.29 1.60 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
BENN F 14.5 3.51 1.88 2.70 1.09 0.22 0.00 0.00 0.00
BURISH F 10 1.58 1.77 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
DVORAK F 12 1.73 2.62 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.25 0.03 0.90
ERIKSSON F 14.5 3.24 2.21 2.70 1.14 0.21 1.55 0.17 0.57
WANDELL F 10 1.12 1.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
NYSTROM F 12 1.35 2.48 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
OTT F 15 3.13 2.69 2.70 0.36 0.13 1.55 0.13 0.70
FIDDLER F 12 1.59 2.66 0.00 0.00 0.00 2.25 0.08 0.87
RIBEIRO F 15 2.63 3.13 3.00 0.94 0.18 0.00 0.00 0.00
RYDER F 14.5 3.31 2.34 3.00 1.04 0.19 0.00 0.00 0.00


In the near future I'll put the actual scoring chance numbers up for examination, but for the time being I hope this snapshot of what the Stars are is educational on some level. They have an excellent top end duo of Eriksson and Benn. They have good secondary line of Brenden Morrow and Mike Ribeiro that is being over exposed defensively. They also desperately need a top pairing defenseman to push everyone down a slot or two. They're in the playoff hunt after 41 games though. If they recreate the above game for the remainder of the schedule they should stay in the hunt for a while, and give us all something to enjoy for the first part of 2012.


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daley's 1.31 interests me

that he’s the most effective on the PP. not that it needs saying, but it looks like benn and eriksson should be out there more on the PP too…

by agvdstars on Jan 12, 2012 2:34 PM CST reply actions  

and goligoski's impact on even strength scoring is also impressive (3.88)

again, increase benn’s playing time, as gully has been doing, and his 3.51 will definitely jump over 4 once his minutes go from 14.5 to 17.

by agvdstars on Jan 12, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Goligoski has struggled something fierce since coming off the IR.

He was leading the Stars in the +30 scoring chance range for a long time. Then he came back and started playing with the inexperienced Larsen and Pardy. Since he and Robidas hooked up Goligoski’s charge has resumed.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 12, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

That is a great point on the pairing.

I wondered what happened with him in the Larsen/Pardy pairing. It feels like he isn’t ready to carry the load of the lower tier dmen. I really like that Goose and Daley are both making positive impacts on scoring. They should consider a mix of that second PP group or just do the overload you recommended below… Either way, that PP needs way more production…

by HockeyRulez on Jan 12, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I think its more the type of player he is than any ability to carry another defenseman.

He’s being his most productive when he’s trying to generate offense. That can expose his partner to some unfortunate situations. He needs a solid defensive player with him or one that can at least skate.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 12, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Goose has been looking like he did last year paired with robi

I think he was suffering from being paired with someone perceived to be a liability ala fistric pardy or Larsen, he needs of be paired with someone he trusts that an get them out of shit if he overextends

by can we get hatcher back on Jan 12, 2012 5:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I've been saying Benn and Eriksson deserve more PP time for two seasons now.

This adds further fuel to my fire.

If you’re looking to overload the PP Benn Ribeiro Eriksson Daley Goligoski and profit

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by Josh Lile on Jan 12, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Gully will find his balance in time.

But I think the players really appreciate some stability, after Crow would change things after 30 seconds of playing. He may be overcompensating for that right now, to show the team that he’s not going to panic, and trusts his players with the responsibilities handed to them.

He’ll learn to adjust more quickly as he gains experience.

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by Tsudbury on Jan 12, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

The problems have little to do with stability.

He has a rigid/flawed approach that revolves around rolling lines as much as possible. They don’t exploit matchups well. Everyone starts in the defensive and offensive zones relatively equally. All this does is heighten the defensive issues the Stars have.

People like to bag on Crawford, but he had used his players well. The Steve Ott line had a defined checking role. Anyone playing with Richards knew what they were going to be doing. The only thing really defined fact about the roles on the Stars now is that there isn’t going to be much any role definition.

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by Josh Lile on Jan 12, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree It's flat out wrong that Benn is on the 2nd pp unit

As I’ve said before there are 2 players in the league above Benn in both even strength p/60 and pp points/60 and their names are Giroux and H Sedin

by can we get hatcher back on Jan 12, 2012 5:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

To add to the bit about crow

Gully’s systems are better but his player management is not

by can we get hatcher back on Jan 12, 2012 5:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Is there a reason

no on has given Ryder the following nickname:

Michael “Knight” Ryder

because that would be an awesome nickname.

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by graylikethecolor on Jan 12, 2012 2:40 PM CST reply actions  

Shirt

make it happen… now… with KIT!!!

by Ottersaurus on Jan 12, 2012 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Would be a cool shirt design.

Black car with a 73 on it and Knight Ryder.

by cms1171 on Jan 12, 2012 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

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