Dallas Stars Daily Links: Stars Being Cautious With Dinged-Up Veterans

he’s at training camp to show his stuff and show that he can be an impact player at the next level, and sitting out almost a full camp because of a “tweak” is ridiculous. You have to play hard and through these things to be a pro and he’s not showing that he’s capable of that at all. If it is really just a tweak then him sitting out shows, at least to me personally, that he isn’t willing and motivated to challenge himself and push himself to excel over other players. I don’t know if this is because of a personality trait that’s always been with him or if it’s cockiness coming from being drafted 8th overall but it’s worrisome to me.

That being said in terms of his skill and stuff he seems like he has a lot of skill and can even play physical to protect the puck which is good. He seems to have developed a lot as a player. He’s more complete. Plays better defense and he can create offense as well as finish which was evidenced by his production when his linemates (who every expert pegged as the only reason he was successful) moved on or were out. These are all good signs. Add to that that although he was 8th overall and top 10 picks are usually expected to make the NHL sooner than later, only top 5 guys on average make it in the first two years. It’s only been 2 years since he was drafted so he still has some developing to do. At this point in his career I think it’s more important for him to develop as a pro and as a person than developing his skills which are already very good.

So, maybe him sitting out because of a tweak is good because he won’t be able to push for NHL ice time. This way he’ll go to the AHL, develop his skills against bigger, faster, more skilled guys; and most importantly he’ll learn to be a pro and fight through things and not whine about stuff. So this could very well turn out better in the long run. It’s just unfortunate that a lot of our less skilled guys who were much less touted than he ( I still love them all to death don’t get me wrong) have leap-frogged an obvious talent who could be a skill player at the NHL level at some point. Sometimes it just takes time to develop mentally, look at Bobby Ryan- he was taken 2nd overall after Crosby and Anaheim decided to keep him in the minors for two or three years so as not to rush him and/or put pressure on him. He’s now one of the best power forwards in the game, mentioned next to guys like Rick Nash, Jarome Iginla which isn’t shabby company. So hopefully the pressure we’re putting on him here hasn’t translated to the majority of the fan base and management so he can develop at his own pace. That being said we need him to come along in the next two years.

To reinforce my point about guys taking longer to develop and needing more time even if they are first rounders:
No. 5 pick- Brayden Schenn is seen by a lot as the best player not in the NHL right now and he was taken 5th overall and still hasn’t played any NHL regular season games except for a 9game tryout with the kings beginning in 09(1 game) and ending in 2011 (8 games)
No. 6 pick- Oliver Ekman-Larsson played over half a season for phoneix in 2010 then went back to the minors.
No.7 Pick- Nazem Kadri (who i really wanted). Is still developing and might only make the team out of training camp for the first time this year as he’s had a great showing in preseason.
No.9- Jared Cowen (ottowa) hasn’t played in the NHL yet and might get a spot because the senators suck and he’s had a good preseason
No.10- Magnus Paajarvi made the Oilers out of camp last year because agian the oilers had no depth and many thought he was rushed, myself included
No. 11- Ryan Ellis Was considered the best player in Junior hockey last year and even the year before, yet again hasn’t played a single nhl game but probably will this season.

Other first rounders from that year who have yet to see NHL ice or any real ice-
Calvin De Haan- No. 12 New York Islanders
Zach Kassian- No.13 Buffalo
Peter Holland – No.15 Anaheim

And the list goes on with some very big names like Schroeder (Van), Chris Kreider (NYR, playes for BC- shudder) and Louis Leblanc (MTL). So it definitely takes time to develop. And also remember that Glennie was a surprise pick and went much earlier than expected or maybe even he deserved. So most scouts expected him to take 3-4 years to develop from the start, while that time frame was accelerated by the fans and maybe management because of the fact that he was in the top 10. Also just to remind all of you, a lot of the guys from that draft who have played significant NHL minutes (Kulikov, E. Kane, Paajarvi) have only done so because their teams (Florida, Atlanta/Winnipeg, Edmonton) have been bottom feeders and didn’t have any other good players to play.

However, this doesn’t completely alleviate my concerns since we are seeing Ryan Ellis, Nazem Kadri and Jared Cowen making strong pushes.

So basically i’m very confused about Glennie, i’m at once optimistic and fed up with him (because of what seems like a lack of commitment, not because of how he’s developing as a player). We’ll see how it goes I’ll give the kid another year and another training camp. If he sits out next year’s training camp with a booboo then I think it’s time to get a little worried

sorry for the super long post

I remembered the Hull/Modano one, and Joe using it as a Jello mold, and with the Hatcher one making 4, what was the 5th video?