Stargazing: Where Will Turco Play? Oleksiak Impresses at Camp Canada
Good morning, Stars fans. Are you still out there? Still hanging on? T-minus 34 days until what I am calling the resumption of hockey activity, September 10th (being the Dallas Stars ice-breaker event at the Galleria and the start of the Traverse City Prospect tournament).
Though the summer wears on, the number of former Stars still in search of work stagnates rather obstinately. Brian Sutherby, Jeff Woywitka and Brandon Segal still seek a call, Jason Williams managed a contract, Karlis Skrastins went to the KHL, Brent Krahn remains unsigned... And then there are former Stars removed a year in Mike Modano and Marty Turco.
Everyone thinks they know what's happening with Mike, but what about Marty? Puck Daddy brought it up here over the weekend, noting the extreme lack of jobs currently. His agent is on record saying that he will play hockey next year, but it's unclear which league. There will be injuries in camps and opportunities may come about that way, but in the mean time one wonders about his on-air career began on NHL network this spring.
For Stars fans, the rapidity of his fall from the supposed NHL goaltending elite has been both horrifying and fascinating to watch. It was only three calendar years ago that he backstopped Dallas magnificently to the WCF against Detroit. His wait this off-season is a stark contrast.
Two great playoffs in a row followed by two seasons of seemingly bad luck where the defense was disassembled, getting younger, and crumbling around him made for an awkward dismount from Dallas. Is his legacy here exposed to revisionist history given the events of the last 15 months and the possible ending of his career on a sour note? It's probably a question best debated five years from now but his summer makes you wonder...
- Jamieson Oleksiak made quite an impression over the weekend with those attending the Team Canada world juniors camp and the red/white scrimmages. He scored a goal and assisted on another Saturday night and was his size was all the rage on Twitter. [Pro Sports Blogging] [ESPN Dallas]
- Stars second round pick, power forward Brett Ritchie, scored twice in lesser scrimmages on Thursday [Pro Sports Blogging]
- Steve Ott is working out back home in Canada and some media caught up to him in Windsor, where he opined on the changing Stars, how the first half off the season last year was the real team, and how he is going to be expected to compete for a top-six role. [Montreal Gazette]
- There's still a smidgeon of hope that Teemu Selanne will not play hockey next year. He's going to decide in September. Just a smidgeon. Don't get your hopes up. [NHL.com]
- Apparently you can rent Marty Turco's Chicago house for $10,000 a month. [Chicago Tribune via Puck Daddy]
- Stephen looks at the forward group for the Texas Stars at Hundred Degree Hockey. It's looking like a pretty salty group from top to bottom. [Hundred Degree Hockey]
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Turco needs to go to the KHL
He’d easily be an upper echelon goalie in Europe. He just isn’t here anymore, if he ever was.
The only real problem Turco ever really had...
was a lack of offense in front of him. For most of his time here he played behind some pretty good defense, but never go any offensive help….especially in the playoffs. The three shutouts in Vancouver but a series loss come to mind. It’s too bad, the Stars wasted all of his prime.
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The lack of offense at times has nothing to do with the mental meltdowns he became known for in his final years in Dallas
Thought he was always known for letting one softie in per game...
It’s just that it used to not affect us that badly.
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He was a legit bad ass early on
I don’t remember when the yips started happening, but year 1 AB (after Belfour) he was a wall.
I want to say that the questions began during the run of playoff failures which were compounded by remarkably soft/just weird goals. Plus the risk taking when he handled the puck at weird times probably led more to his legacy as being a shaky guy in net.
I wonder if Turco's problem is the opposite of what Kari has going on now...
Turco has the skill, and not a single person who is involved in the NHL will tell you otherwise. He reads plays, makes quick decisions, and works as a 3rd defenseman on the ice for most of the night. Hell, they even created that “goalie’s can’t play here anymore” section of the ice because of him (You see Avery, THAT is how you’re supposed to have a rule created because of you. Not because you’re trying out for the Chiefs).
But I can’t help but wonder if maybe it’s his work ethic that is keeping him from getting a job. There’s no evidence or specific examples that proves my point, just speculation. People forget how much work it takes to stay at the top of your game 100% of the time. It affects everything you do. From the foods you eat, to who you get to spend time with every day of the year. It’s intense, and not many people can really do it for 20 straight years. It takes a lot of sacrifice (Though $100 million in the 20 years would certainly make it better.)
Anyways… Those of us who watched Marty replace Eddie, up until the time he signed with Chicago, we know his personality. He is charismatic, fun loving, and a passionate guy. He proved that day in and day out while he was here. And, it may be just me, but I see that personality as getting tired of the grind after a while. Especially when the defense is falling apart and getting younger with each year. And I really can’t blame him for that one bit.
He may have let up a bit on what he was doing to stay on top, either physically or mentally, and with the saturated goalie market right now, that’s proved to be his undoing. Not to mention he’s in his mid 30’s now, and it takes more to stay on top at that age than it does in your mid 20’s.
Again, it’s all pure speculation, but it’s easy for me to think that is what happened. Especially hearing that Kari had the same issue when he was younger. He didn’t take his preparation for the game seriously, and that turned out to hinder him the entire time he was in Atlanta.
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He may or may not get a call.
I bet the only place Turco gets a job as a starter is in another league like the KHL. Unless maybe an NHL starter goes down with a year ending injury he may get a call. He might just have to accept the fact that he is now a backup.
I’m really happy to see Oleksiak doing so well and getting attention. Maybe he’ll be with the Stars sooner than we think.
Don't worry... we should hear something by the end of the week.
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Patience is a virtue
…that I don’t have.
Come on people, do you REALLY want to spend that amount of dough on lawyer’s fees? Let’s get rolling on this already!!
by Taylor Baird on Aug 8, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
It's been 10 days since Gaglardi supposedly submitted his paperwork.
So that’s 10 days of lawyers looking at it so far and counting… Must be a hell of an expensive process.
by Brad Gardner on Aug 8, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
surely there must be something else to it besides that
or i’m going to be ticked.
heck, i’ll even accept the response of “there are 47 creditors involved, and each creditor’s lawyers have to look at the contract, which is not allowed to be photocopied, so they have to wait in line to read it.”
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This is going to sound like an asshole comment, but don't take it that way.
What reason do you have to be more ticked than the large number of creditors who are fighting to get some form of compensation for their predatory investments? They have until player check #1 is sent out to reasonably (without paying more money) get this done, and it wouldn’t shock me at all if they wait a while longer to make sure they’ve covered their bases fully.
And really, why shouldn’t they? It isn’t like anything else is happening.
lol don't worry, didn't take it that way.
The only thing worse than the creditors fighting?
Twiddling their thumbs while everyone is on vacation. Or all the lawyers are too busy on Reddit to look through the contract.
I can at least “understand” the creditors fighting non stop, because they’re job is to try and make money, and a lot of them are going to have their butts handed to them when it’s all said and done.
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Yes
But don’t they realize I need content in August?
by Brad Gardner on Aug 8, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Have a fake game day.
Write a game day preview like it’s game 42. Talk about the season, line ups, and who we’re facing.
Then we can have a GDT, and you can post “highlights” and “goals” as the game progresses.
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We can call it "Withdrawal Day"
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and then someone can record the game on NHL 11 and post it up here
and have proper GDT’s haha
Worley’s Gloating Worm Llamas vs. Gardner’s Stomping Thunder Babies
Tsudbury for King!!! (if you want a pretty scalf)
James Neal - 45 points. Alex Goligoski - 46 points. Nieuwendyk lost?
by Great British Stars Fan on Aug 8, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
In fact
Call yourself “Gagner” and the group of writers can conspire to make up ownership stories until something sticks. Then you claim you had sources until you eventually do have more sources then make tens of thousands of dollars a year off of your creation.
Profit.
So let me see if I got this right....
Step 1. Make up a story that gets traffic
Step 2: Post it to bleacher report.
Step 3: ??
Step 4: Profit!
Blast…. I never finished step 3.
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Also, when you post a ton of question marks in a row, it reduces it to only 2.
So keep that in mind everyone.
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lol
Exactly.
And I’ll sign it “Ken Campbell” of the hockey news. Somehow he’s always wrong and it never damages his “credibility”.
by Brad Gardner on Aug 8, 2011 6:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Who needs "credibility" when you have "sources?"
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Turco was great, and then he wasn't...
I was always a half-hearted Turco fan. Watching him take over for the Eagle was tough. Eddie would go to play the puck and cold cock a player that was buzzing the crease. Great goalie, with big issues. Aren’t all goalie a bit of a whack job? Has to be work related, if you have a good D, you can be top-tier, when those guys leave, you can go to crap quickly. Turco has a bunch of issues, “get’in’the-crease MARTY!” was a constant refrain from the stands when he overplayed a puck and created turnovers; but the guy was a money 3rd Dman on literally thousands of plays. Couldn’t win in Hockeytown, then he could. Didn’t show up in the playoffs, but then had a top three playoffs GAA in a series where the Nucks squeezed by us. Mid-30s is a tough place to be in today’s game. I wish him all the luck in the world, and want to see him go out with a winning team, but it seems less and less likely every day… I wanted to stop going to games over the last couple years as Lehtinen, Zubov, Mo, and Turco bowed out; but that is the nature of the game, and you can’t hold on too long or your team will be living in denial at the bottom of the rankings.
Other former Stars without jobs...
Trevor Ludwig and Fabian Brunnstrom.
Sean Backman, previously an RFA for Dallas, signed a two-way with the Islanders today as well.
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I wouldn't mind Turco in Sm-liiga.
But I think it’s KHL or waiting until someone will get hurt.
As a Finn… Wait, no, please retire Selanne.
Good times are here and Stars will take what belongs to them. Sooner or Later.
turco just had bad timing
he was a stud early on with great skill, and a strong D in front of him.
the D slowly regressed and marty got older and his skill slowly slipped.
i am a turco fan, but i was glad to see him go.
London...
Showing Vancouver how to really riot.
Tsudbury for King!!! (if you want a pretty scalf)
James Neal - 45 points. Alex Goligoski - 46 points. Nieuwendyk lost?
by Great British Stars Fan on Aug 8, 2011 7:02 PM CDT reply actions
and In other news, great to see Oleksiak making an impression!
My main concern is that he’d appear a bit rubbish if he went to the Canadian camp, alas that appears not to be the case.
Future’s bright, futures orange :)
Tsudbury for King!!! (if you want a pretty scalf)
James Neal - 45 points. Alex Goligoski - 46 points. Nieuwendyk lost?
by Great British Stars Fan on Aug 8, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Future's black and gold
I wish it was still part green though :)
by brickwall5 on Aug 8, 2011 8:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
London's burning...
Call for the fire brigade… Oh wait they can’t get there due to rioters. Ah. Nevermind.































