Dallas Stars Seek To Fill Richards, Neal Departures in Shootout
Last year the Dallas Stars went 5-7 in shootouts. The Los Angeles Kings won 10 and finished 7th, just three points ahead of the Stars. To say the shootout was the difference in the two teams seasons is fallacious, to be sure, but the "skills competition," no matter how poor of a way it is to decide a hockey game, plays a vital role in playoff seeding even with the non-shootout-win tie breaker. If Dallas had won ten shootouts like Los Angeles they would have earned 100 points, finished in 4th place, and had no need for tie breakers.
Long gone are the days of Jussi Jokinen, Sergei Zubov and then... well, they usually didn't need that third guy. That's how dominant it was and we all took it for granted. The last several seasons have featured mainly Mike Ribeiro, Brad Richards, and James Neal. As you may have noticed two of those gentlemen have departed and taken with them the bulk of the Stars recent shootout attempts.
In Brad Richards' three full Dallas seasons...
| Goals | Attempts | Perc. | |
| 2008-2009 | 2 | 7 | 28.5 |
| 2009-2010 | 4 | 16 | 25.0 |
| 2010-2011 | 5 | 12 | 41.7 |
| Total: | 11 | 35 | 31.4% |
He led the team in attempts in each of the last two years and likely would have in 2008-2009 if not for the double wrist injuries.
James Neal leaves a similar hole, being a nearly "every shootout" kind of guy in 2009-2010 with his infamous 0-10 that carried into an 0-2 this last season before he was moved. He had some success in a Penguins uniform with this in the spring (despite not scoring any goal-goals) and hopes to regain the 5-of-7 form he had in his rookie season.
The answer to everything these days is, of course, "Jamie Benn."
Jamie Benn took over third on the team in attempts last year but scored on only two of his seven chances. If this seems odd to you in light of his plethora of breakaway goals last year you're not alone, but real hockey situations and the forced pageantry of the shootout (including mental preparation time for goaltenders) are two different animals. Nevertheless, one would think he'll be counted upon in this capacity.
If Mike Ribeiro can carry over his stellar 6-of-10 performance from last season then that leaves one spot open in the regular rotation. Michael Ryder brings with him a 2/10 performance in 2009-2010 and a 1/5 performance last year, so not much help there. The most obvious choice is Loui Eriksson, though he is only 5/21 (23.8%) on his career.
Steve Ott could be an option and is a relative unknown with only three career attempts and one goal. One of his misses last year, against Colorado I believe, was a slapshot off the crossbar that went higher than any puck I've ever seen at American Airlines Center. Alex Goligoski might be worth a look as well, being a skill-guy. He is 1/4 in his career.
What say you? Who shall carry the torch in this wretched but necessary exercise?
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I've no idea BUT...
this post reminds me of that shootout two seasons ago when Robidas came in and slapped one in to surprise the world and win it. At that time, I believe he said his last shootout attempt was in juniors or something and he scored then, too. Of course, if I remember correctly, the next shootout he was up again and missed. Haven’t seen him in there since.
I don't think he's going to be getting a shot at much of anything
He has not used his time in this league wisely.
by Brad Gardner on Aug 13, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Or
Has not been used wisely in his time in this league
How should he be used?
He might be ill suited for this lineup. He has been used well as a third line defensive guy for a while but third line defensive guys need to contribute more points. He contributes next to nothing.
This year is his last chance. Guys who want contracts need to find a way to contribute something, whatever it is. Unfortunately for him he has been “just a guy”.
I like him a lot. I hope he kicks ass this season. I hope he uses that speed that he teases us with every now and then, but… if I were a betting man I would wager this is his last season with the Stars. I hope I’m wrong bc he’s a super nice dude with great wheels.
by Brad Gardner on Aug 13, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Difficult to argue
If anything, I’d say he should have been the top center for the Texas Stars with Petersen and Sutherby dressing more often, but I don’t remember if they existed when he first graduated
Yeah, that's a consideration too.
The TX Stars were not yet fully formed when he was making transition from Europe. He played a year with Iowal, though.
It might just end up being a tale of crappy circumstances for mr. Wandell when it’s all said and done. Who knows… maybe he can step up his game. His contract expiry status is RFA so it’s not like it’s hard to keep him. If nothing else then he’s a cheap replacement on a guy like Toby petersen, if the team wants to play it like that with the money.
I am obviously going to have more on Wandell as we enter cap. Very interesting case.
Either way… in the shootout.. probably not ;)
by Brad Gardner on Aug 13, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
Overly critical of Wandangles aren’t we?
Remember how he was getting more and more confident and was a good speedy shutdown presence two seasons ago? Then some bastard manning the door in Vancouver blew his knee out? Same injury that took Morrow a full calendar year to even get some of his bash back?
We’ve seen flashes of the ol’ wandangles, and I want him to be given a fair shake… and not a Crow retard shake either.
by Waywardstars on Aug 13, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Tom Wandell is the most overrated player on this board
You have to prove you deserve ice time….like Jamie Benn.
I’m more upset at the loss of Sutherby than Wandell. I loved Sutherby.
Then why not just get rid of him now.
We have so many players fighting for ice time this season if we are gonna treat him like a spare and not give any opportunity to prove himself, then lets just release him now and move on. I’ve been frustrated with Wandell’s play many a times but I still see a lot of potential as a dependable two-way forward. One of his main killers is his lack on the face-off dot. Excuse my rant but, it is just one of my pet-peeves. Plus, what kind of stats are we expecting from him. At best I would like to see. 10-15 goals 30 points And mostly used on PK. Maybe Dvorak and Fiddler can help him this season. I believe Wandell is one to stay.
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by jordan.saleh on Aug 14, 2011 3:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I miss Neal as a player, but I won't miss him in the shootout.
All he ever did was hit a post or break his stick…
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Maybe that's why Crawford practiced the shootout for game 82.
He wanted to get an idea of who we should start in the shootout for this season?
Maybe?
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"Replace James Neal"
So we need somebody to hit the post on every SO attempt?
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scouting
opposing teams scout shooters, that is why most guys have better success when there new to the shootout scene.
every team knows that ribieros bag is bottomless and that jamie benn will come at you very slow and try to make it more of psychological game. the same way every team knew james neal was going to give you a high wrister.
the third spot should be rotated between guys like louis, goose, ott, and so on. the rotation would alloy some anonymity to that shooter.
The rate at which Dvorak skates
I think he’d be at least worth a look. Goligoski should also be used, of course
I'd certainly be willing to give Dvorak a look if I were in charge.
Oddly enough he has very few shootout attempts in his career, which leads one to believe that he’s not very good at it in practice.
by Brad Gardner on Aug 13, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Regardless of who they choose
I know they need to practice it much more than “a fun shootout at the end of practice.”
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Would be cool to try Goose.
Good times are here and Stars will take what belongs to them. Sooner or Later.
I won't miss Neal too much, but Richards definitely.
RIbiero should be the de facto 1st choice for shootouts. Benn and Eriksson should be the other 2.
Of course players will mess up and the league could change it to 5 shooters. Next I would say Goligoski, Ott or maybe Robidas or even Ryder.
I remember last year when 1 shootout went really long Crawford had Segal shoot before Morrow and Ott had shot. Hopefully Gulutzan won’t make dumb decisions like that.
That was just bad
Morrow had a great SO goal against Turco and the Hawks back in February.
I think Goose intrigues me the most of all the options.
I’d like to see what he’s capable of with some practice.
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Ribeiro is weird
He can be money, but his propensity for the crazy is a little scary for the 3rd slot.
I’d like to see Goligoski, Ribeiro, and Benn.
I vote for Ribeiro, Benn, Eriksson
as the main 3. Also curious what Goose could do in a shootout, as well as Ryder.
I’m kind of a Ryder fan, and really looking forward to seeing him in a Stars jersey.
what about morrow?
He is sneaky with his shootout stats because he shoots once every blue moon. But his stats are pretty good
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