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Dallas Stars Sale: Report Says Chuck Greenberg "Kicking Tires" on Mark Cuban Partnership

When the rumor first surfaced last week that former Texas Rangers CEO Chuck Greenberg was looking into purchasing some unknown portion of the Dallas Stars, sports fans familiar with his sudden resignation from said baseball team wondered aloud: "With whose money?"

Which isn't to say that Mr. Greenberg can't put up a significant portion of the funds necessary or doesn't have the credit required to assume the debt the lenders are looking to unload. For all we know he is fully able and willing. The perception, however, is that he owned only a very small portion of the Texas Rangers (The DMN's and Sports Illustrated's words, not mine) and therefore a similar, minority investment in the Stars is what's expected in such a scenario.

Enter the Dallas Business Journal yesterday and an interesting rumor on with whom Greenberg could partner...

Greenberg, the former CEO of the Texas Rangers, is currently reviewing the franchise's financial documents to decide if he's interested in an ownership stake in the team, according to the source.

He's also kicking the tires at potentially partnering with Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban on the bid for ownership of the National Hockey League team, according to the source.

Cuban has previously stated he would be interested in a minor ownership stake in the Stars for more control over the American Airlines Center, where both teams play. [DBJ]

The proposed partnership is an interesting one precisely for the reasons that the Business Journal states: Cuban is looking at (perhaps) a minority ownership stake; something to help him get control over the AAC, while Greenberg is also theorized to be more of an organizer and a leader than a primary financial backer, much like Jim Lites would be with the Quinn group.

In that scenario Greenberg and Cuban add up to two guys not (supposedly) interested in investing a heap of money into a hockey team that could easily lose money in the next two or three seasons. They seem to add up to an incomplete picture. Who would play Ray Davis and Bob Simpson behind such a pairing?

Mark Cuban was asked at Mike Modano's charity baseball game last weekend about the Stars and issued a quick "no comment."

This is all academic, of course. Tom Gaglardi is still the front runner and Stars fans everywhere anxiously await word of his signed purchase agreement with the lenders any time now. Still, the thought of the two enigmatic executives on the same team is intriguing on many levels, and somewhat ironic given that just under a year ago the two sat on opposite sides of a Ft. Worth courthouse trying to win the Texas Rangers bankruptcy auction.

In the mean time, TSN reports that three new bids for the St. Louis Blues have been entered and that people close to that situation think some of that interest came from those who were previously interested in buying the Stars but aren't now because it's assumed that Gaglardi will win the team. Interesting...

Update: Rich Phillips via Twitter (of Sports Radio 1310 The Ticket) says that Mark Cuban, via email, denies talking to Chuck Greenberg about the Stars. So take that, Dallas Business Journal, I guess...

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I was thinking about this just yesterday.

Greenberg + Cuban really makes perfect sense.

Cuban wants to own the AAC outright, and he has seen what value dedicated hands-on ownership of a franchise can create. He also knows that he wouldn’t (or isn’t willing to) be able to provide that given the Mavs.

So, why not partner with Chuck (a guy he unquestionably knows from Pitt connections/the Rangers situation) to have him be in charge of the day to day stuff? It’s a logical fit and it gives the Stars a marketing focus that would be second to none in the NHL. I would love for this to come to fruition.

by Josh Lile on Jul 13, 2011 7:28 AM CDT reply actions  

You, sir...

…took the words right out of my mouth.

You think you know. But you ain't got no idea.

by PatrickIn323 on Jul 13, 2011 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

This makes more sense for Cuban than owning an MLB team.

Which wouldn’t happen anyway.

Also when I think of someone owning two teams in this area, I get flashbacks of Tom Hicks. But I do think Cuban has a better grip on things.

by doubleminor on Jul 13, 2011 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cuban is in my eyes is much better than Hicks but that's the Mavs fan in me talking.

If you look at it objectively though, they both have one championship. Hicks may seem stupid for throwing his money around without thinking cough A-rod cough but in a sense he did the same thing Cuban did. He was willing to put in as much money as was needed to make his teams win. If Mark Cuban put in a large sum of money for the Stars we might be excited as fans but he would be putting himself in the same situation as Hicks. He already spends a crazy amount on the Mavs. Being a minority owner might be fine but much more than that would probably be a bad financial decision. I think Cuban is too smart to do that.

by DFWFan on Jul 13, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

PODCAST

Can you get the podcast up and running already? We decided on the name a month ago and still nothing. You said you were going to have it up to talk free agency and I’ve still been waiting…

by noahbelieves on Jul 13, 2011 7:41 AM CDT reply actions  

lol i asked this last night

well… i demanded it really :-)

They said they’re almost done recording it. It’s the first one ever, so you know they’re taking their time and making it good. I can’t wait to listen to “Intangibles” on a regular basis.

"He punched the highlights out of her hair... he punched the HIGHLIGHT'S out of her HAIR!" -- Young Neil

by Tsudbury on Jul 13, 2011 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is the podcast still in the 30 day exclusivity period?

Or has it gone into a 60 day period. Do Worley and Gardner have final editing privileges, or do the other writers get to review the final editing and have a chance to do their own editing. Then do any changes they make have to go back through the other two for approval. I’m hoping we have a podcast before the season starts in October, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s mid-November, even as late as January. : )

by Chubbs78750 on Jul 13, 2011 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

My head hurts.

"He punched the highlights out of her hair... he punched the HIGHLIGHT'S out of her HAIR!" -- Young Neil

by Tsudbury on Jul 13, 2011 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Whoa now!

We recorded the first segment last night with our special guest, then we’ll record the rest tonight.

Would have recorded it last week, but we were delayed because I had to spend an extra day on an oil rig and it delayed our plans.

Should be up and ready on Thursday.

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by Brandon Worley on Jul 13, 2011 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Extra points for the excuse

Out of all of the excuses ever heard for not getting a Podcast…or anything technical up and going…having to spend an extra day on an oil rig has probably never been used.

by RB16 on Jul 13, 2011 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't tell him that.

He’ll start using it for everything.

"He punched the highlights out of her hair... he punched the HIGHLIGHT'S out of her HAIR!" -- Young Neil

by Tsudbury on Jul 13, 2011 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hell..I'm gonna start using it too

“Sorry I didn’t make the meeting yesterday…I was stuck on an oil rig”
“No…I didn’t forget our anniversary…I was on an oil rig and couldn’t pick up your gift”
“No…my TPS report is not finished…I was on an oil rig for an extra day”

by RB16 on Jul 13, 2011 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ever heard of wifi?
I had to spend an extra day on an oil rig and it delayed our plans.

by Josh Lile on Jul 13, 2011 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

WiFi connections out on an oil rig in the middle of the Gulf

Kinda spotty at best. Poor Worley can’t stream videos when he’s out there, so not sure we could get him long enough for a podcast where, you know, it’s important to actually HEAR a person.

Trust me…the wait is worth it peeps.

by Taylor Baird on Jul 13, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

they were going to add one

but the starbucks construction workers got stuck on another rig.

"He punched the highlights out of her hair... he punched the HIGHLIGHT'S out of her HAIR!" -- Young Neil

by Tsudbury on Jul 13, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

What are we living in the dark ages?

Get that man a STARBUCKS!!

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

No jokes allowed.

We are a serious website.

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by Brandon Worley on Jul 13, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just saying is all.

Besides, haven’t you ever been in a GDT and Worley is like 5 minutes behind everyone else? And he curses at us for ruining a goal scored or a goal against for him because he hasn’t seen it yet?

That be why. :D

by Taylor Baird on Jul 13, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, because I avoid hockey GDTs.

I need solidarity to process what I’m seeing/to not translate my yelling into all caps rants about how someone needs to pack so and sos bags for a trip to Allen.

by Josh Lile on Jul 13, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lol.

Probably smart.

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by Brandon Worley on Jul 13, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Like you said, it's missing a piece.

Cuban is passionate about whatever he puts his money behind, so that’s good. Greenberg (NOT the ESPN writer) is a local favorite around here, and is passionate too. The only problem is that it’s missing someone who is passionate about HOCKEY.

Don’t forget that Cuban is also supposedly working with Billy Quinn. Here’s an article about the man.

Now I know that this is from a while back, but it talks about Quinn, Lites, and Modano in a group together. (Just to add to the rumor mill) Is it possible that this group is back together, and joined forces with Cuban AND Greenberg? Quinn is also a minority holder in the Rangers, so there’s ties between Greenberg and Quinn already.

Traditionally, I like to have a single owner who is passionate about what he does. But if I had to pick a group of financial backers for this team, can you imagine any better than Cuban, Greenberg, Quinn, Lites, and Modano? I certainly can’t.

"He punched the highlights out of her hair... he punched the HIGHLIGHT'S out of her HAIR!" -- Young Neil

by Tsudbury on Jul 13, 2011 8:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Greenberg is passionate about hockey.

In fact, it’s his first passion.

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by Brandon Worley on Jul 13, 2011 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't aware of that.

Well then that makes my proposed group even better!

"He punched the highlights out of her hair... he punched the HIGHLIGHT'S out of her HAIR!" -- Young Neil

by Tsudbury on Jul 13, 2011 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

He brokered the Penguins/Lemieux deal

Cuban + Greenberg is a perfect fit, and considering the smaller price of a hockey team vs the Rangers Greenberg would be able to have a larger ownership/financial stake.

by Josh Lile on Jul 13, 2011 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

ooohhh THAT Greenberg...

I was thinking of the other one? Or some other guy?

Okay, I wasn’t. I just had a brain fart about it is all.

I was going to remember that detail, but then I got stuck on an oil rig.

"He punched the highlights out of her hair... he punched the HIGHLIGHT'S out of her HAIR!" -- Young Neil

by Tsudbury on Jul 13, 2011 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Now I may have to buy a Nissan Leaf

Just so Worley can’t rub that in my face.

"He punched the highlights out of her hair... he punched the HIGHLIGHT'S out of her HAIR!" -- Young Neil

by Tsudbury on Jul 13, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Then he'd just be able to rub in your face that you actually own a Leaf

And then you wouldn’t be able to drive more than a half hour… …or in the winter.

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thoght you just made that car up

then I looked it up only to see its about as rainbow as a prius
yeah, dress up in a bikini and post pictures when your drunk. but dont drive that.

GET OFF NIEUWENDYK'S NUTS

by 8thegreat on Jul 13, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

THAT'S NOT ME!!!!

LOOK IN MY PROFILE PIC FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!!

Well, if what I’m planning comes to fruition, a leaf would actually be practical. Or a scooter named Sasha.

"He punched the highlights out of her hair... he punched the HIGHLIGHT'S out of her HAIR!" -- Young Neil

by Tsudbury on Jul 13, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh i just looked at your picture....

yeahh.. the guy in that pic is way better.. lol jp ;)
If cars came to an end id buy a stallion and name it benn

GET OFF NIEUWENDYK'S NUTS

by 8thegreat on Jul 13, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

You riding a stallion named Benn

That’s…a little disturbing.

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

its not like i'd ride it bareback

i’d use a saddle…. geez

GET OFF NIEUWENDYK'S NUTS

by 8thegreat on Jul 13, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Excuse me waiter?

Check please?

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol

GET OFF NIEUWENDYK'S NUTS

by 8thegreat on Jul 13, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, okay...

I think we need to steer this conversation in another direction.

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by Brandon Worley on Jul 13, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Saved by Worley!

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes it runs on rainbows, unicorns and the dreams of puppies.

So basically it doesn’t really work. They found out last year it really really doesn’t like the cold.

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

neither does the south.

"He punched the highlights out of her hair... he punched the HIGHLIGHT'S out of her HAIR!" -- Young Neil

by Tsudbury on Jul 13, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

True but haven't you heard of global warming?

The whole south area is going to be freezing soon!

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

its funny i was just calling those cars gay

then i rememberd last week at work i was helping this family with hockey and they said they were stars fans and i said i had a man crush on jamie benn and the daughter was like i have a crush on him to! and then we talked about why we love him for like 45 min. she probably thought i was seriously gay by the end of that convo

GET OFF NIEUWENDYK'S NUTS

by 8thegreat on Jul 13, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

The fact you thought that was Trevor just made my day.

LMAO.

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by Brandon Worley on Jul 13, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Aww.....

You had me rolling.

I finally had some good dirt on Trevor for once.

Defending Big D - Dallas Stars news & analysis
Proud member of the Joe Nieuwendyk support team.

by Brandon Worley on Jul 13, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

hahah no that would have been great

but also very pride shattering for him if i had actually thought that was him.
if the guy in the picture wasnt downs then maybey i woulda played along lol

GET OFF NIEUWENDYK'S NUTS

by 8thegreat on Jul 13, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

downs people are awesome

I’ve known a few, and they’re pretty hilarious. Good & genuine people too.

People didn’t watch “The Ringer” because it was about a guy faking to be in the special olympics, but it’s actually a decent story, and the DS actors on there are awesome.

"He punched the highlights out of her hair... he punched the HIGHLIGHT'S out of her HAIR!" -- Young Neil

by Tsudbury on Jul 13, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh yeah they are

ive known a few over the years they are the happiest people ever.

that movie was funny and had a good story and ending and knoxville actually became genuine friends with most of them. the main one even shows up in diffrent jackasses and stuff where knoxville is

GET OFF NIEUWENDYK'S NUTS

by 8thegreat on Jul 13, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

giving cuban more control over AAC

That could be a good thing especially if it results in changes to the AAC. For the most part you walk through the building and have no idea that this the home of the Stars and Mavs.

by IceLords on Jul 13, 2011 8:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah...they'll fix that by making sure everyone knows it's the home of the Mavs.

Giving Cuban control over the AAC makes me nervous. Just guarantees that whenever there’s a conflict the Mavs will automatically get whatever they want.

by Sugaa on Jul 13, 2011 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

What kind of conflict, though?

Seems like if the dude has all the money has more control all he’s going to do is continue to upgrade the place. Last three off-seasons we got new scoreboard, new mirrors in the bathrooms with the ads (which while annoying, was pretty cool) and new toilets. Yes, I noticed the new toilets because I practically live there during hockey seasons.

I say let the dude do whatever he wants to the place.

He’s hardly going to plaster Mavericks crap all over it.

Although they absolutely SHOULD make some kind of display case for the Larry O’brien trophy somewhere. As a Mavs fan I would like that very much.

by Brad Gardner on Jul 13, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe he can add hot water to the women's bathrooms.

But you really don’t think we’re going to start seeing a lot more afternoon games and such? Sorry Stars, the Mavs play primetime.

by Sugaa on Jul 13, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

They hardly ever schedule conflicting home games on the same day

why would he start doing that? It would decrease revenue for the entire arena.

"He punched the highlights out of her hair... he punched the HIGHLIGHT'S out of her HAIR!" -- Young Neil

by Tsudbury on Jul 13, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

The NHL wouldn't allow that to happen.

There’s also no point in making that investment if you’re just going to start screwing over that investment in favor of another.

I understand the concern, but I just don’t see that happening. Cuban can’t have that much control over the NHL scheduling.

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by Brandon Worley on Jul 13, 2011 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cuban likes money! If he owns the Stars he'll want them to succeed.

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

But the Stars don't make any money and likely won't for years.

And this is the same NHL that put us in the Pacific Division, so I wouldn’t put a whole lot of faith in them. I’m just sayin’ that Cuban has his loyalties and they won’t be with the Stars whether he owns them or not. All I’ve heard is that he’s not interested, so it’s a moot discussion, anyway.

by Sugaa on Jul 13, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Realignment looms so Pacific won't be in our future for long

Hockey teams can make money and if he’s going to own one you better believe he’ll want it to be one that does.

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

But he doesn't want to own the Stars.

He’s said that repeatedly. The only reason why he’s remotely interested is for controlling interest of the AAC. He doesn’t know hockey, he doesn’t like hockey, he is not interested in hockey. This would be a pure business move for him.

by Sugaa on Jul 13, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Again, he likes to do well in "business."

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Then he still wouldn't want to own the Stars.

They can make money, but it won’t be for years.

by Sugaa on Jul 13, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying he does

I’m saying if he did, as the rumor suggests, he wouldn’t be dumb enough to not push them to be the best.

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

He'd push them enough to be profitable, not necessarily the best.

Being the best doesn’t necessarily make you the most money in the NHL. The Blackhawks lost money on their Stanley Cup winning season.

by Sugaa on Jul 13, 2011 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay then. How do you propose to make a hockey club profitable other than by winning?

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think she's saying that there's more to it than just winning..

The Blackhawks basically paid a ton of money for their Stanley Cup and then had to sell everything off.

You need a winning team, but it also takes smart business decisions in every other aspect as well.

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by Brandon Worley on Jul 13, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm talking about business only.

The Hawks lost money last season, despite winning a Cup. That’s the point she was making.

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by Brandon Worley on Jul 13, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

What we need to remember is that there was a time..

Not too long ago, that the Stars were one of the top revenue generators in the NHL and the AAC was a big part of that.

It’s going to take a while to get back to that point, but that’s something that Cuban and other potential owners are very aware of.

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by Brandon Worley on Jul 13, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's all I mean

If Cuban sees it as a way to get more of AAC that’s fine but I find it hard to believe that he won’t want the Stars to be a winning team. That does not seem like his style.

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

The point I'm trying to make is that there are different levels of winning.

Sure, we’ll start making the playoffs hand have some spectacular first and second round exits. But if you think we’re going to go from 3-year playoff drought to Stanley Cup contenders because there’s an owner in place I think you may be expecting too much.

by Sugaa on Jul 13, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes I agree it's going to take time

I don’t know how long it will be before we contend again but I certainly think that it should be the long term goal for any owner. I’m not saying he’s interested. I’m not saying he’s the right fit. I’m just saying that if he is I can’t imagine he wouldn’t want it. Maybe I’m wrong.

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's why he doesn't want the Stars.

He wants to bring that drive and passion, but he just doesn’t have it. His heart isn’t in it.

by Sugaa on Jul 13, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you just helped my argument. :D

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know it's complicated

and difficult to make money in the NHL but I’m under the impression that Cuban is probably pretty good at making business decisions even if he is kind of a jerk. We’ve talked on this site about what it will take to get ticket sales…wins!

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mark Cuban loses money just about every year on the Mavs

These guys (in most cases) make their money when they eventually sell the team.

Steinbrenner bought the Yankees with like 10,000 dollars of his own money or something ridiculous. They make money year to year, but it pales in comparison to how much his family would make if/when they sell the team.

by Josh Lile on Jul 13, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

And he supplements that money lost with other business ventures.

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Proud member of the Joe Nieuwendyk support team.

by Brandon Worley on Jul 13, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

By not spending to the cap and running a balancing act between staying cheap and providing enough to keep interest up.

A lot of teams do this. Even with new ownership the Stars won’t be spending to the cap unless the owner is completely insane.

by Sugaa on Jul 13, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hear you but this isn't Toronto

People in Dallas want a team to be competitive. They’ll show up if we’ve got a shot at being good but they won’t if we’re just trying to not suck.

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes and they sell out every game no matter how much they suck.

They make money up there.

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Toronto didnt pick much lower than the Stars

And next year they’ll make the playoffs.

So theres that.

by Josh Lile on Jul 13, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haven't you seen him on Shark Tank? :D

The guy is ravenous when it comes to success. It’s ridiculous to think he would put that kind of money into the franchise and not do everything else to see it succeed.

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I find it hard to believe he can do that

when he puts so much into the Mavericks, and has a very limited hockey knowledge. He’ll supply the money, but he won’t have much influence in the decisions as he does for the Mavs

by Why on Jul 13, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes that has already been stated in every possible way.

He would be the money guy while his partner would run the day to day. This is not news. That being said, it seems silly for him to spend that money and then not want them to be the best simply to increase the opportunities for his investment.

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 13, 2011 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

If there's a schedule conflict

It’s much, much easier to go from ice to basketball than basketball to ice. And the ice sucks if you try it.

That’s just good sense there.

by Brad Gardner on Jul 13, 2011 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

And THAT'S why..... you never trust the internet.

"He punched the highlights out of her hair... he punched the HIGHLIGHT'S out of her HAIR!" -- Young Neil

by Tsudbury on Jul 13, 2011 9:22 AM CDT reply actions  

We know all of these kinds of things are just rumors

But what in the hell else are we going to talk about on July 13th?

by Brad Gardner on Jul 13, 2011 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

We can talk about....

the…… things with the……

wait, hold on…. I’ll think of it.

"He punched the highlights out of her hair... he punched the HIGHLIGHT'S out of her HAIR!" -- Young Neil

by Tsudbury on Jul 13, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

WE CAN TALK ABOUT SHELDAN SOURAY, LOLS

Seriously though, I would give up all my Christmas presents to have Mark Cuban as a Stars owner.

by Jenny Z on Jul 13, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you were serious about hockey

There would be some discussion of the various aspects of Gullys personality profile (Type A, B etc) vs Crawfords and how the differences will improve or worsen the atmosphere in the locker room subsequently changing the on ice record/leading to improved/worsened player performance.

Clearly though, you aren’t/

by Josh Lile on Jul 13, 2011 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cuban could.....

Have discounted Stars tix for sale at Mavs games and vise versa. Could get new fans to both team’s games. Or do they already have similar promos?

by Clint Norman on Jul 13, 2011 11:27 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

That makes a lot of sense.

Why wouldn’t fans of one team like the other? I know I wouldn’t ever consider going to a mavs game but other people might.

If Cuban is smart and actually serious about buying the team he needs to somehow find a way to get Modano in on the ownership group. That might automatically make a lot of old fans have new interest in the team if they hear Modano is a part of it in some way again.

by T-rom on Jul 13, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

They already make you buy tickets to both teams if you want platinum level season tickets.

They did advertise Stars tickets at the one Mavs game I’ve been to, and one of the $15 seat deals I remember attracted a lot of basketball fans (based on an unscientific poll of everyone in my section that looked really confused). A multisport combo pack does sound like a good idea, but I don’t think the teams need the same ownership in order to do that.

by Sugaa on Jul 13, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

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