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2011 NHL Free Agency Profile: Scottie Upshall


One day closer to the NHL Free Agency period, it seems that there are not many free agents left.  Value can be found if you know where to look, and today we're looking Scottie Upshall's way.

Why he'd fit:  Over the past several seasons, Upshall's goals scored have increased as the number of games he played in increased.  A trend that appears to be continuing upwards is definitely a great addition to the Stars' roster.  At 27 years old, the left handed RW is still young enough to expect that trend to continue.  Averaging roughly 16 minutes per game, Upshall could be one of those players whose increased time on ice results in higher goal and assist numbers.  His style of play seems to slot him in nicely on the Morrow-Ribeiro line.  Can Upshall be the RW that these two need to turn them into a high-scoring line?  It sure is fun to dream about.

Why it won't work: Upshall's two-way game is not exactly desirable.  Finishing many nights on the wrong side of the +/- shows that his defensive game needs some work.  To be fair, Upshall's +/- did improve under Dave Tippett while playing for the Phoenix Coyotes, where a defensively-minded scheme was implemented.  When he was traded to the Columbus Blue Jackets at the deadline last season, Upshall finished with more minus nights than anything else.  I would think that is a function of the team he was on, and not necessarily his own defensive capabilities -- but only time can tell on that one.  With Gulutzan's ability to instill a strong two-way system in the teams he coaches, this could definitely be worked on as a Star.

Final verdict: I see Upshall as one that has some of the better upside in the free agency pool.  He's still young, and his potential for scoring can be made much higher by playing with a playmaker such as Ribeiro as his center.  Combined with Morrow who loves to work for rebound goals, Upshall can be some added scoring depth that the Stars desperately need.  And wouldn't it be nice to finally see a RW stick on that line?  At the right price and contract length, Upshall can be a good piece for this Stars roster for some good years ahead.  What do you think -- sign or pass?  Tell us in the comments.

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He's left-handed...

Doesn’t Ribeiro want a RH shot as his RW? I think he could be worth a look for the right contract though. However, it would be nice to finally have some RH RW’s.

by staelfissh on Jun 30, 2011 3:20 PM CDT reply actions  

+/-

Also his +/- isn’t that bad outside of his time in Columbus (a horrendous -12 in 21 games, yuck) in finishing above even all but one season. He did post a +14 a while back in like a half season with the Preds. Of course, those stats might be totally system-oriented.

by staelfissh on Jun 30, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like this guy

and so does my coyotes supporting friend so i’d like to see him in a stars jersey. Give him more minutes and his goal count will probably go up, you mention his 2 way game isn’t great but if you balance his offensive upside against his defensive downside i still see him as one of the better UFA’s

by ukstar on Jun 30, 2011 3:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Pulled this off hockey's future review of Nashville's 202 draft:

On top of all of Upshall’s on-ice capabilities, his biggest upside may come from what he does off the ice. Scott is generally the first one to show up for practice and the last one to leave. He is a very emotional player, but easily gains the respect of teammates by working hard and leading by example.
Scottie is considered the best character guy in the draft, and, like new teammate Scott Hartnell, Upshall is another player who has the leadership qualities necessary for becoming a captain in the National Hockey League. His greatest trait, however, is that he will never be outworked, whether it be in the weight room, in the locker room, or on the ice.
The scouting report on Scottie Upshall reads like this: “solid skater blessed with great hands, good on both ends and excels once he enters the offensive zone. Good passer, huge hitter, hard worker, and a dedicated individual.”

He’s described a lot like Ott. If you don’t overpay for him, he’s a drifter between 2nd and 3rd line. You can have too many of them if everyone’s healthy, but not enough of guys like this in the dog days of winter.

He can fit on the Stars though.

by giveandgo4real on Jun 30, 2011 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

He would be a good add

But I wouldn’t put him with Ribs, he would prefer a right handed shot. Could Upshall play on the left? I would sign Upshall and Joel Ward, and roll with this:

Morrow-Ribs-Eriksson
Upshall-Benn-Ward
Ott-Wandell-Burish
Barch-Petersen-Vincour

Abrasive, hard to play against, 2 way hockey.

Waiting for the day GM Joe has a real budget

by Rizory on Jun 30, 2011 3:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Swap out Ward for Vrbata and put Eriksson with Benn and Upshall and I'm with you.

Morrow and Eriksson both like to be around the net and pick up the trash, and Ribs doesn’t shoot hardly at all. Would make more sense to put a shooter like Vrbata there and put Eriksson with someone who puts the puck on net like Benn does.

by Travis Drybread on Jun 30, 2011 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beam me up, Scottie!

I have heard great things about him, his work ethic and team responsibility. He plays through everything. I officially approve!

by drakeramore on Jun 30, 2011 3:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Sign, please.

He’s one I’d like to have.

by cms1171 on Jun 30, 2011 3:54 PM CDT reply actions  

i'd like him here

Young has sucked the last two weeks. --JW 6/16/2011

by shock00 on Jun 30, 2011 3:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Upshall would be a good one

And on the back end I could see the stars trading larsen and possibly another prospect and a pick for an overpriced but good defenseman. And then offer a 1 year small contract to Cam Barker (bought out) and use him as a #7.

by Newt Goodler on Jun 30, 2011 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Someone will give him more opportunity than a #7 slot.

I wouldn’t be shocked to see him go to Winnipeg anyways.

by Josh Lile on Jun 30, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

no question

Young has sucked the last two weeks. --JW 6/16/2011

by shock00 on Jun 30, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've always loved Scottie

Although he hasn’t lived up to what I envisioned he could be. His leadership on the Canadian Junior team was incredible. He was easily the Captain most deserving of a gold who never got one. The problem is, I haven’t seen that greatness translate to the NHL. If we needed a 3rd line RWer who could step into a top 6 role every now and then, I’d be on board, but I’d be a bit skeptical if we were relying on him as a consistent top 6 contributor.

by LilEagle on Jun 30, 2011 4:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Sure, why not!

(Please note, the above response will likely be duplicated for any and all FA’s listed on DBD, since this team DESPERATELY NEEDS players.)

"I’m going on record that he read it wrong. We’ll see who’s right." - Hull Fan, in regards to Joe not trading Richards

by Tsudbury on Jun 30, 2011 4:24 PM CDT reply actions  

LOL. No kidding.

I expect to let out a cheer at the news of our first signing. ‘Yay. We did something. We have a player!’

by cms1171 on Jun 30, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Someone actually CHOSE to sign with us!!!"

"I’m going on record that he read it wrong. We’ll see who’s right." - Hull Fan, in regards to Joe not trading Richards

by Tsudbury on Jun 30, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

No kidding.

At this point I’m pretty much ready to throw my hands up in the air when they announce a signing and say, “Sure, okay, whatever! If nothing else he can keep Benn’s seat warm while he’s out scoring goals.”
(last sentence deliberately stolen from Tsudbury)

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jun 30, 2011 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol... you liked that one huh

"I’m going on record that he read it wrong. We’ll see who’s right." - Hull Fan, in regards to Joe not trading Richards

by Tsudbury on Jun 30, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yes. Well played sir!

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jun 30, 2011 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

On another note

Just wanted to say congrats to one of my favorite stars, Darryl Sydor now an assistant in Minnesota.

Othwise I approve of an upshall signing.

What...just...happened?

by RealDealNeal on Jun 30, 2011 4:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Rumor going around about one of NYR RFA

Rumor has it that Rangers are looking to trade one of their RFA. “From Eklund”

I want Dallas to get Brandon Dubinsky if possible. He would be great for a #2 center. Then sign Scottie to play with Ribs.

Morrow/Ribs/Upshal
Benn/Dubinsky/Loui
Ott/Wandel/Burrish

Thats a solid three lines. Larsen and pick for Dubinsky?

by David Hatfield on Jun 30, 2011 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Dude dont post eklund

I wont elaborate, eveyone knows why. I would be interested in Dubinsky, but its highly unlikely they will trade him, and i doubt there is any truth to this “rumor”.

by James329 on Jun 30, 2011 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

eklund rumor that...

Washington is trading Ovechkin and Green to Dallas for a side of Brisket and future considerations. I kid though.

What the Puck?

by DirtyBrotenScoundrel on Jun 30, 2011 7:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

This is a definite yes if we can get him

A fast player with some scoring ability and a RW, even if he’s a lefty. So is Loui, and that hasn’t stopped him. Right now he’d be a 2nd line guy, but he’d shift down to the third as soon as we become competitive again, and that’s the kind of depth good teams have. Finally, he sounds like exactly the kind of quality character guy we love to have on our team. There really isn’t a reason not to go after him.

by PSyCo2012 on Jun 30, 2011 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

His character is a definite plus.

Look at what Burish has done while he’s been here.

by Travis Drybread on Jun 30, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm...

Would be okay option.
It’s good that this week will be done soon. =)
And we know if/when someone have signed with Stars.

Good times are here and Stars will take what belongs to them. Sooner or Later.

by Henri Muroke on Jun 30, 2011 4:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Guys come on.. Loui is a first line player for sure

You can’t even consider him over upshall.. Upshall would be a solid pick up though

by 91_Stars_21 on Jun 30, 2011 5:50 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Thats wasnt the question! (greggo voice)

Loui is a top line winger, but the thought is that he will be on a line with Benn. Meanwhile, Morrow and Ribs will be on the other line, and the stars will try to fill in around that. Ribs also wants a right shot, but its been that way for awhile. Free agency should determine the mix, its still unknown.

by James329 on Jun 30, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

That wasnt the question (greggo voice)

The understanding is that Benn and Loui will be on one line, while Ribs and Morrow will be on the other. The ole find two players that have good chemistry and fill in around them idea. Loui is a top line player, the issue this season is we wont have a definite top line, at least to start the season.

by James329 on Jun 30, 2011 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ya, it has nothing to do with 1st line, 2nd line, whatever.

Both lines will be treated as the 1st line depending on whatever defense they’re up against and what not. It’s a matter of chemistry more than who’s better or worse.

Ribs and Morrow go together. But Morrow and Eriksson do not.
Eriksson would fit better with Benn and someone else than on the Ribs/Morrow line.

by Travis Drybread on Jun 30, 2011 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

100% agree

I don’t like seeing Eriksson on the same line as Ribs and Morrow. They need a different RW.

I think I still like the possibility (though very very small) of lines that look like:

Benn-Connolly-Eriksson
Morrow-Ribs-Vrbata

Forgetting any health issues, this would be my ideal setup considering what’s actually available in the FA market. However, If this actually did happen (it won’t) then that would likely leave little or no money left to sign a stay-at-home Dman.

Leino could be nice but he will most likely be even more expensive than the two of these guys and is a LW so I don’t really see where he would fit unless Benn moved to center. He’s also probably looking for a long term, high dollar contract and one season of production and nice playoff figures haven’t fully sold me on him yet, though he’s been touted since he was on the Red Wings.

In all likelihood though we aren’t going to be seeing any of these guys in a Stars sweater and will just pick up some character guys instead. Maybe fight with the Avs for Joel Ward? Who knows.

Can’t wait for tomorrow.

by GRees on Jun 30, 2011 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

No thanks

Scottie doesnt fit for me. I see him as a third liner who hasnt shown enough to warrant a top 6 spot. He does have upside, and he is fairly young but there are other issues. Hes a lefthanded right wing. Not only does ribs want and need a right shot, so does our power play. This is a highly overlooked element of our team. Id rather have langenbrunner over scottie, despite the difference in age. Scottie has scored 20 goals, what…once? He isnt a strong two way player either, and hes not flexable. There are better, more flexable options. We need to be talking about Leino, Kennedy, Cole, Ryder, D’agostini, or even Miettinen, Ward, or Vrbata. Now if we sign Eric Cole and Upshall thats a different story. But I only see him as 6-9 forward at best.

by James329 on Jun 30, 2011 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

I want us to diligently pursue Leino, Ryder, Vrbata, Connelly, Wisniewski, Ehrhoff, O'Brien, and Montador

assuming all are around come July 1.

Not that we’ll get any of them, but we need to at least be big players in the decisions these guys have to make over the next few days. The Stars do not need to just be an afterthought while these guys are considering destinations.

by Travis Drybread on Jun 30, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ehrhoff and Montador...

are off the board now. I think wisniewski is the right fit on defense, but not at 5 million. At this point the hope is whoever we overpay for it will be a short contract. Things dont look promising right now.

by James329 on Jun 30, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

wisniewski is going to detroit for under 5 million.

Don’t ask me how, but somehow they will do it.

What...just...happened?

by RealDealNeal on Jun 30, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guess not

They kept Ericsson instead, and Wiz might sign in columbus so.

by James329 on Jun 30, 2011 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I'd definitely prefer him over Connolly.

I mean, maybe his plus/minus isn’t all that desirable, but at least he isn’t so, ahem…fragile.

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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Jun 30, 2011 6:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

You can't really compare him to Connolly

We NEED a top six center. We want a right handed RW who can get off a quick one-timer. Upshall is solid, but I’d rather gamble on Connolly, and possibly get 60-70 pts. Maybe we sign Connolly and nothing. Otherwise with Upshall we have one good line w/ Ribs, morrow, and loui and a lacking line centered by Benn. Its difficult to discount Benn, but I haven’t seen enough of him at center to convince myself he can play there consistently.

What...just...happened?

by RealDealNeal on Jun 30, 2011 8:23 PM CDT reply actions  

We need both.

Be the RW in the form of Ryder, Upshall, or Vrbata, we need one of them.

by Travis Drybread on Jun 30, 2011 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scratch Ericsson off the list...

Per @ TSNBobMcKenzie

DET agrees to terms with Jonathan Ericsson. Numbers not confirmed but believed to be three years at around $9.75M total.

by Gregory Smith on Jun 30, 2011 8:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

I wouldnt want to pay that guy over 3 mil, but hey i dont really want to pay any of these ufa’s over 3 mil so.

by James329 on Jun 30, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats about league average salary.

So probably right around what he should’ve gotten, but he isnt much better than what they already have.

by Josh Lile on Jun 30, 2011 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

It might not be after this year.

Good grief. Ehrhoff for 10yrs at 40M with 10M of that in the first season? Although something tells me that may not be the last we hear about that contract.

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jun 30, 2011 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

So far

word from the NHL is that it’s a completely legit contract that doesn’t break any of the established rules.

by GRees on Jun 30, 2011 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well it's a pretty smart contract.

Considering potential cap rollback with a new CBA next year.

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jun 30, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

How does that work with the 8M signing bonus.

Does that not count toward the cap?

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jun 30, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

The cap hit is the average salary over the course of the contract.

Including the salary bonuses, it’s a 10 year, $40 million deal….so a cap hit of $4 million a year.

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by Brandon Worley on Jun 30, 2011 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks Brandon

That makes sense.

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jul 1, 2011 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

As the "talent" pool is shrinking

heres the best list of free agents that ive seen that has more than just the top guys listed
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=370493

by James329 on Jun 30, 2011 8:47 PM CDT reply actions  

I never really thought of some of these guys

For instance RW Matt D’Agostini and C Matt Cullen. Both of these guys could be a good fit. And I wouldn’t mind seeing Jovo in a Stars jersey if we can get him for rather cheap.

Ah what the hell, let’s just re-sign Lags, and sign Arnott and Miettinen and have a reunion party next season, lol.

by GRees on Jun 30, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

one name on the RFA list

from that article that intrigues me is Teddy Purcell. I don’t know if he’d fit into Joe’s plans, but I have always like watching him play in TB and he’s a right shot and can play either wing. Pretty big body at 6-2, 200, and netted over 50 points last season. We could do worse.

by Erok79 on Jun 30, 2011 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

wouldn't mind d'agostini at all

if I remember right. He caught fire toward the end of last year

by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2011 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would believe if I was able

But I’m waiting on the crumbs from your table. :/

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jun 30, 2011 8:58 PM CDT reply actions  

So about that pic at the top

How does Stephan not get that? He looks like he’s in perfect position. :/ That glove is pretty well lined up though. amiright? #savesKariwouldhavemade

Heika suggests that the players were questioning decisions such as Woywitka over Mark Fistric --Brad Gardner

Maybe that's why Woywitka had that puzzled face after that goal....
"Shouldn’t Fistric have scored that?!" --Tsudbury

by EagleBelf on Jun 30, 2011 10:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Souray...

If nobody picks him off waivers the Oilers will buy out the last year of his contract. For the right price should we go after him?

by JQ$ on Jun 30, 2011 11:05 PM CDT reply actions  

No

He’s always been overpaid and now is near the end of his career

by Lone star hockey32 on Jul 1, 2011 9:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

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"I’m going on record that he read it wrong. We’ll see who’s right." - Hull Fan, in regards to Joe not trading Richards

by Tsudbury on Jul 1, 2011 9:50 AM CDT reply actions  

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