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Dallas Stars Free Agents: Who Stays & Who Goes?

Earlier this week I posted a comprehensive list of the current depth chart in the Dallas Stars' system, as well as our updated chart of the Stars' salary cap situation.

Many of you noticed a few names missing, not only from the NHL side but deeper in the system as well. The Stars have a number of players hitting free agency this summer -- most notably Brad Richards, of course -- and Joe Nieuwendyk is going to have some difficult decisions to make with a few of the role players on the team.

Much of the focus the past few months has been about getting an owner and a budget in place in order to sign Brad Richards; what we've failed to focus on is that the Stars are going to sign more than just Richards to fill the roster and if the Stars hope to actually improve next season then the budget is going to be more important than just Richards.

There's also some decisions that have to be made regarding a number of prospects who are set to be free agents this summer, and Nieuwendyk is going to have to do some tricky maneuvering to keep who he needs to if there isn't a solid budget in place.

After the jump, we take a look at all of the pending free agents in the system -- both restricted and unrestricted -- and debate on exactly who should get an offer should the Stars have the ability to sign them.

Star-divide

 NHL:

Unrestricted:

Brad Richards - $7,500,000

Jamie Langenbrunner - $2,800,000

Brian "Darren" Sutherby - $812,500

Brandon Segal - $550,000

Jason Williams - $500,000

Karlis Skrastins - 1,375,000

Jeff Woywitka - $650,000

AHL/Prospects:

Restricted:

Sean Backman - $900,000

Richard Bachman - $825,000

Colton Sceviour** - $775,000

Guillaume Monast - $600,000

Unrestricted:

Brad Lukowich - $1,000,000

Severin Blindenbacher - $1,112,500

Aaron Gagnon - $600,000

Ray Sawada - $575,000

Trevor Ludwig - $525,000

Travis Morin - $500,000

Brent Krahn - $500,000

*Salaries listed are each player's 2010-12 NHL salary.

**I'm uncertain whether Sceviour's ELC is up or not.

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Estimated NHL Salary Cap in 2011-12: $62.2 million

Estimated Salary Cap Hit for Stars in 2011-12: $39.5 million, 16 players signed

Estimated Cap space: $22.6 million

Actual NHL payroll: $37.8 million

Open NHL contracts: 7 open spots on NHL roster (9 forwards, 5 defensemen, 2 goaltenders signed)

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We're going to play the "what if the Dallas Stars don't sign Brad Richards" game next week, but for now let's assume that the Stars do find a way to sign Richards for a salary cap hit of around $7 million. This leaves the Stars with around $15 million of cap space in which to sign a remaining 6 players.

Of course, this is assuming signing Richards means the Stars have the ability to spend to the cap. If you notice, signing Richards to a contract -- with his actual salary for 2011 being closer to $6 million -- means the Stars are already right up against that $45 million payroll figure we've heard so much about. This season, the Stars spent much closer to $52 million in reality, so who knows exactly what Nieuwendyk has the ability to do, if there is no owner.

Before we look at who on the NHL roster should stay, let's take a look at the prospects in the system to see who's ready to make the jump to the NHL and fill those spots first.

Tomas Vincour showed some great potential, even with just one goal, and it's very likely he makes the NHL squad out of camp next year. Philip Larsen is close to being NHL-ready and with two veterans facing free agency and the Stars still needing to sign a much more talented veteran (hopefully) it's safe to assume that Larsen can go ahead and be penciled in on defense as well.

This leaves four spots, six players unsigned. It's tough to say that any other currently signed players in the system are primed to make the jump to the NHL -- although it's aways possible we get surprised. Matt Fraser has the potential to make the same jump Jamie Benn did -- from CHL playoffs hero to the NHL -- although it's much more likely he's in Austin next season.

Of the players left, we can assume that Jamie Langenbrunner is at the top of the list of players Nieuwendyk wants to keep. The G.M. didn't make this trade with the intention of Langenbrunner being just a rental player; he planned on seriously taking a look at keeping the veteran should he prove useful for the Stars.

While some may feel that Langenbrunner brought nothing but bad luck to the Stars, the team -- and I -- see him as a gritty veteran that was one of the few bright spots during the horrendous days of the final months of the season. He no longer has the ability to carry a team himself, but as a third or fourth line veteran he's very valuable for a team in transition. If he's willing to take a paycut, I can see him staying in Dallas.

Brandon Segal deserves to stay and he deserves a one-way contract, but I see him getting a better chance elsewhere. Same with Brian Sutherby. Both players may be victims of the Stars continuing their "youth movement", especially if some of the prospects start getting ready to make the jump.

With the Stars needing massive changes on defense and improvement in all areas, I just don't see Woywitka and Skrastins staying. Skrastins could be approached as a 7th defenseman, especially if the Stars are unable to improve via free agency due to the budget.

Of the AHL players and prospects, it's much clearer who definitely deserves a new contract:

Sean Backman, Richard Bachman and Colton Scevious will all likely receive offer sheets from the Stars.

Bachman proved to be a reliable and steady goaltender at the AHL level this season, providing a solid force in net for a team that was lacking the veteran leadership from one year ago. He's made incredible strides since leaving Colorado College as a sophomore and he's going to be ready for the NHL in a very short while.

With the development of Tyler Beskorowany, Bachman could also be valuable in trades as well.

Aaron Gagnon, Trevor Ludwig and Travis Morin will all definitely be given offers by the Stars before hitting free agency, we hope. Gagnon showed a lot of promise with the Stars before fading a bit, and could fill a roster spot for Dallas out of training camp as well. Travis Morin, coming off an incredible season with Texas, will get a good hard look by the Stars in training camp and after showing tremendous potential in limited NHL minutes, he'll get a shot out of training camp as well.

Unfortunately, it's likely the end of the road for Brent Krahn. A great goaltender and an even better person whose knees just couldn't keep going any longer.

What say you? What players in the system do you want to keep? Who do you see making the NHL roster?

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I agree on Langenbrunner. I think he stays. I’d also like to see Sutherby stay to get a better shot. I’m not sure Crawford really gave him much of a chance here.

I think our biggest need is on defense and I agree Skrastins is gone. Woywitka is interesting because I think he could possibly stay – though I’m not really sure I want him to.

Then again, so much hinges upon signing Richards and the new ownership. It’s really hard to make these kinds of assessments without knowing more about the ownership.

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by Happy Girl on May 6, 2011 1:16 PM CDT reply actions  

4 slots open, 6 unsigned

I’d expect MAYBE 3 of those back, too. Langs for sure, and I’d like to see my boy Darren stick around. I’d expect us to look at other FAs to fill in the other needs. Players that may suit the new coaches ideals better.

"I’m going on record that he read it wrong. We’ll see who’s right." - Hull Fan, in regards to Joe not trading Richards

by Tsudbury on May 6, 2011 1:20 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree with most of what you say.

I think my opinion on Langenbrunner staying is going to depend on how much money he wants. He ain’t worth $2.8 mil anymore.

by Sugaa on May 6, 2011 1:38 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm thinking 1-1.5 max.

but that’s just me.

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by Tsudbury on May 6, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would like Langst to stay.

Two years and cheaper contract… He might get only one year, but it remains to be seen.

by Henri Muroke on May 6, 2011 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

let langs go!!!

i love him but he contributed pulled a disappering act and if they re-sign him they give up a second rounder, he is not worth that. continue the youth movement dammit. also i know he’s not a free agent but barch has to go, he does nothing but fight and the majority of the time he loses those fights. i dont know what they see in him, maybe they think they need a goon, but there are other guys you can get off the street that can at least win the fights they get in, i know laraque isn’t doing much these days, at least he could win once in awhile…now im angry just thinking about him.

by the way worst e-news ever...

by heyitsthatguy! on May 6, 2011 1:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe, but I wouldn't call it a disappearing act...

…unless you expected him to completely steal the show, which most of us didn’t.

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by Angelou Del Angel on May 6, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

As for Barch...

…he’s a key voice in the room, and an energy guy on the ice. We saw some good work on the forecheck this year, and THAT’s what I see he should be focusing on instead of fighting.

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by Angelou Del Angel on May 6, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

cuz Crow liked him?

lolz

"I’m going on record that he read it wrong. We’ll see who’s right." - Hull Fan, in regards to Joe not trading Richards

by Tsudbury on May 6, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dang that Darren Sutherby

is quite the man on twitter.

Sounds like he could do some damage in a Stars Uniform

Who is this Darren Sutherby??? I think we could use him in Dallas

by jordan.saleh on May 6, 2011 1:54 PM CDT reply actions  

why?

"I’m going on record that he read it wrong. We’ll see who’s right." - Hull Fan, in regards to Joe not trading Richards

by Tsudbury on May 6, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because his name is too long!

Personally…I was extremely happy when I heard Jamie was coming back.

by RB16 on May 6, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sutherby or Segal

I like both of them, Sutherby is more consistent but spent most of this season battling a bunch of nagging ailments. Segal is tougher and has a more deft scoring touch, but can’t be left in the pressbox or be a salary victim as he was this season. Wojo, I give him another 1 year deal maybe 2 with a small raise, but expect more for next season. He has yet to be a full-time player until this year so let him see if he can build on this season, or cut him loose in a year.

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by bluliner10 on May 6, 2011 2:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Leaving out Richards for now

I can see Langs & maybe Segal coming back…Williams & Sutherby no. I agree with you about Larsen, I think he’ll make the team next season. And the only way I see guys like Skrastins & Woywitka comIng back is if the FA D-men become too expensive for the team.

by chris1989 on May 6, 2011 2:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

My fear with bringing in Larsen, is that it'll turn out to be another Nisky.

Someone who we hurt because he didn’t develop enough in the minors.

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by Tsudbury on May 6, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Niskanen spent zero time in the AHL out of college

Larsen is farther ahead of him as far as early development before the NHL.

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by Brandon Worley on May 6, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah but hes also an injury waiting to happen. Way too frail for NHL duty at this point, IMO. He hasnt been able to stay healthy at the lower levels, its scary to think what might happen to him if he doesnt add some weight.

by TimAH on May 6, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll miss Skrastins...

I could only see him returning if our financial situation still sucks by July 1st and he takes a pay cut.

Or he might retire? He’s in his twilight years.

by oddlay on May 6, 2011 2:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd cut

Langenbrunner loose, but wouldn’t mind if it was under $1.5 mil and not more than one year. For that cost you may be able to get guys like Joel Ward or Michael Rupp..both of whom will score as much as the 2011 version of Langs and are bigger. Langs legs aren’t there anymore.

Wouldn’t mind Segal as a 4th liner, he’s at least a right shot which doesn’t hurt.

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by BloggingBevo on May 6, 2011 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't know as much about the other guys in the system but....

Keep:
Richards
Langenbrunner
Williams (he showed some promise last year and seems to be a good minor role guy)

I’d like to see them also bring Lukowich back up more. It seemed like he really showed some stability in the defensive end when he played. He may be really good to have around for some of our younger D men

by RB16 on May 6, 2011 2:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Is it possible...

to let Brian go, but somehow sign Darren? That guy seems pretty legit.

Keep Langs only if he’ll take a paycut. I loved having him back and think he has value to the team, but there were occasions when he was clearly a step behind everyone else on the ice which doesn’t add up to $2.8 mil.

by holly_holl on May 6, 2011 2:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Agree some about Langs

There were times out there last season where he looked confused. It seemed though that once he got used to his role and realized he didn’t need to carry the team that he started playing better. I will freely admit I yelled at my TV because of him a few times though. “Clear the freakin puck!” and so on

by RB16 on May 6, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

here is my one problem with larsen coming up

that gives us gogo,robi,daley,and now larsen who are all smaller good skating and puck moving defensemen. then we have a good stay at home guy in gross but hes not physical and a developing defender but great hitter in fistric. we need a big grit guy back there who will clear the crease. I really hope we draft that poor mans chara if we could get someone that size in there it’d help us alot IMO. right now we have a smaller soft defense we need some muscle and size from someone

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by 8thegreat on May 6, 2011 2:49 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't see Grossman as "not physical"

Have you ever watched him in the crease? Yeah, he puts his shoulder (hip, butt, stick, whatever) on that guy to get him out of our crease. He also down the stretch started to hit more guys and use his size more. I actually thought he was pretty physical myself.

I also own a Grossman jersey. So I’m slightly biased I guess. ;)

by Taylor Baird on May 6, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

hes not a total softy

but Grossman isnt nearly as physical as someone like him should be. Way too often he doesnt engage in front of the net. Hes a guy whos almost always in the right position, but often isn’t doing the right things with that positioning.

by TimAH on May 6, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

He definitely needs to get more physical

He’s already one of the most consistent we’ve seen as far as positioning goes, but if he could just learn to use his size the dude could be a monster.

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by Brandon Worley on May 6, 2011 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know, I always liked him and Fistric there for awhile. Occasionally they'd

get a bit physical and shove some people around like Hatcher and Matvichuk used to do. When Fistric is on, he tends to push guys to get a bit more physical and it might light a fire under Grossman to play with him.

by DStarsFan on May 6, 2011 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah hes gotten better

but i havnt seen it often enough or as much as we need. certainly not to the degree we need imo. dont get me wrong i love gross and would totally rep his jersey myself.

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by 8thegreat on May 6, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

That’s the problem I see us in with our D corps. We really can’t afford to add any smallish guys. Larsen OK, if he’s the 7th guy. We really don’t require another offensive guy. If you could get someone who can do it all that would be great, but don’t think there’s anyone on the market that fits that bill. We just need to get bigger and turn the puck over less. Goligoski is probably going to score 15+ goals and 50ish points. Daley and Robidas 5+ goals and 25-30 points..Adequate. I’d try to sign a couple affordable vet stay at home guys..Like Hal Gill..guys like that.

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by BloggingBevo on May 6, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah i agree

except if he can only be used as the 7th d man then i think larsen would be better off staying in the ahl

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by 8thegreat on May 6, 2011 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shea Weber...

I sound like a broken record but i would take Weber over Richards. He’s the D man we need who also has a laser from the point. Put him and GoGo on the point for the power play. That would be sick….i want Richards back but i think we can do without him with the emergence of Benn. Go after Weber with the big cotract offer if the ownership gets resolved.

by JQ$ on May 6, 2011 3:29 PM CDT reply actions  

shea weber is a restricted free agent.

We’d lose tons of picks, and handicap ourselves for years to come if we tried to get him this offseason.

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by Tsudbury on May 6, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Forget about Weber. If I could add anyone in the league to the Stars roster it would be him. But you’d screw yourselves over royally in the future with all the picks you’d give up.

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by BloggingBevo on May 6, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

now if he doesn't re-sign after next season?

Let’s get him. And immediately win the cup.

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by Tsudbury on May 6, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Grossman isn't "not physical" but he's certainly not overly physical.

Put it this way…if he’s your most physical defenseman…that’s a problem.

by StarsFan29 on May 6, 2011 3:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Bieksa sure would be a nice pickup.

That relies on the Canucks not resigning him, though. As much as Christian Ehrhoff would be a sweet signing as well, he is more of an offensive defenseman, and not quite what we need. If the Canadiens don’t resign him, James Wisniewkski would be an option for some added grit — despite the fact that he is a dirtbag and I can’t stand the guy. Beyond that, there isn’t much youth on defense with a mainly defensive upside: Joni Pitkanen would be a nice asset, but he, again, is a primarily offensive guy. Any of the 30+ year-old guys on the market would seem no more than a 1-4 year stand-in.

Of the offensive guys available, I think Scottie Upshall would be a solid pickup. He played very well for Columbus after being traded by Phoenix. Unfortunately, he is another left shot, but given his age, I still find him one of the most valuable UFAs out there. Vrbata, Ryder, Tanguay and Dupuis are all interesting as well. Depending on the ownership situation and the Brad Richards situation, Joe may have some serious options available this summer. It should be interesting, to say the least!

by GCO on May 6, 2011 4:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Bieksa and Wisniewski

would be awesome, except that they aren’t all that big either. They are physical though. I just picture these Pacific teams with huge forwards pounding away at the defense. I want the D to get bigger. Three slots are already reserved for small guys, maybe 4 out of 7 if Larsen makes it. I read story recently about Pitkanen and that he’s not just an offensive guy, he’s good defensively. Don’t know how accurate that is but he’s got pretty good size. He and Bieksa are going to cost a LOT of money though in FA. Like maybe close to what Richards will cost.

At forward most of those are good options, like you say not a lot of right shots out there. So if that’s not a consideration, I’d take Brooks Laich over any of those guys. He’s got size and is a really good all-around player, and as good as all of those offensively. He’s also versatile and can play wing or center. Think he’s a little younger than all of those as well. The other guy I like is Ryder, just for that right shot. From what I’ve seen in the playoffs I like him.

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by BloggingBevo on May 6, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

keep

richards, langs and karlis.

by agvdstars on May 6, 2011 5:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Of the guys on the list who will have a shot at making the Stars roster,

I’d bring back Richards, Gagnon, Morin, and maybe Segal. Segal over Langenbrunner because he’d be cheaper by a million bucks give or take, and you wouldn’t lose a second round pick. Probably as much production out of Segal as well, you lose experience but I’d want them both as 4th line right wings who can play up when needed. For that role I’d rather have Segal at a lower price. Other spots I’d rather try and upgrade. Even if things happen with ownership we don’t know yet what the budget will be, and even if they can spend to the cap, I’m not sure there are many in this FA class I’d want to lock up long term. So I’d upgrade depth and sign a player or two play up in the lineup like Hal Gill, Brooks Laich, and/or Michael Ryder to leave options open for next off-season where I’d assume it will be a better FA crop.

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by BloggingBevo on May 6, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jones!

I`m surprised no one has mentioned signing Ryan Jones as a UFA. He`s gritty, can play either wing and would add scoring depth (18 goals this season). Sure, he`s a LH shot, which is a minus, but he`d be every bit as valuable as say- a Joel Ward, should we not be able to sign him. Upshall would be a nice addition as well, as someone had mentioned previously.

For our UFA`s, I agree that Krahn will likely retire. Too bad. I am sure he`ll have a career in the broadcast booth though (in CP possibly). Hopefully we are able to qualify and keep Richards. That goes without saying. I`d also keep Lang`s (1 or 2 yrs at 1.something million) and Brandon Segal. Sutherby, Williams and Skrastins can go. I wouldn`t mind keeping Woywitka, but if Larsen makes it, if we sign someone and if a longshot like Dillon gets the odd call up, then I don`t see us really having room for him.

I`d imagine we`ll extend contracts to Backman, Bachman and Sceviour, Monast may stay in AHL or ECHL, depending on how he does in camp. I don`t really see him having much of a chance at making the NHL anytime soon. Lukowich is done. Blindenbacher shot himself in the foot and dashed his dreams when he left for Europe, after an injury-plagued, disappointing season. I`m not saying that Joe expected him to be a top 4 dman or anything, but he was probably expected to be at least a solid number 7, and he wasn`t even that. Ludwig, Morin and Gagnon should all receive short-term contracts, and maybe some of them will get a long look in training camp, but I`m guessing its the end of the road for Sawada, who was expected to make the team for the past 2 yrs or so now.

I`m wondering if anyone thinks that this is also a do or die offseason for some of the team`s longer serving prospects such as Lindgren (likely trade bait, after having a solid season in a 2nd rate league, after darting off to Finland, when the Stars would have wanted him to marinate in AHL), Roman, Korostin, Wathier, etc. I`m also interested to hear if any of their collegiate players will be making the jump to minor-pro this season as well. Perhaps guys like Winkler, Sacchetti, Bergin… Thoughts?

Some other thoughts:

Guy(s) I`d most like to see NOT in a Dallas uniform this season: Petersen, Robidas (like to move him, since he`s older and I didn`t like the contract. He has been valuable though, but if we could`ve made room for a younger defenseman with more size, like a Bogosian, I`d be all for it).

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UFA Wishlist: Bieksa, Ward, Jones, Ehrhoff, Upshall, Jokinen, Zherdev (maybe)

Draft: Zibanejad, Armia, Oleksiak, McNeill, Scheifele, Biggs (hopefully the big Oleksiak, or a center).

by Chris Barnard on May 6, 2011 5:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow, I didn't realize the Flow was set to be a UFA

I’d be pretty surprised if Edmonton didn’t sign him before July 1st given the performance he had this season — but, hey, what do I know?

by GCO on May 6, 2011 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

jones is in the oilers future plans they love that guy

i dont see him go anywhere. and you dont want to see robidas or petersen in a stars uniform?! are you crazy their characters and compete level is what our whole team needs to have.

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by 8thegreat on May 6, 2011 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe...

but FA is an option, and if Brad Richards is going to see what`s out there for him, why wouldn`t Jones. Especially after a great season (by his standards). He may never have this opportunity again (entering free agency as a young player, coming off of a good season). Besides- Edmonton is a team in rebuild mode (haven`t they been saying that since 1991?) and from the NHL player polls, is one of the cities players would LEAST want to play in.

Petersen and Robi may have character- I don`t know. I`ve never been in the Stars locker room and seen them in action, though you seem to have been.. I just didn`t like the Petersen signing because I thought that by this offseason, one of our younger players like Wathier or Sceviour perhaps, would`ve been ready to step in and take his job. Even Gagnon or Morin… Petersen is small and he`s not exactly a scoring machine or a physical force. And Robidas is what- 34? With his reckless style of play, he won`t be able to keep up the same level of intensity for many more years. I even thought he`d lost a step since 2009. I hate the thought of paying him money that could be better allocated towards a guy like an Ehrhoff or even someone from within the organization.

Didn`t you guys think that one of our major problems this year was playing against larger teams like LA and PHX? We got bullied. It`s evident when you look at how 3 of our top 6 defensemen are 6 feet and under (GoGo, Daley, Robidas). Then we had forwards on the bottom 6 such as Petersen, Williams, Sutherby (frail) and Gagnon. So we didn`t really have much size.

by Chris Barnard on May 6, 2011 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely hear what you're saying

But other teams will have the same view of Robidas. Not the best contract and he’s 34. So trading him may not be easy. Probably get a pick or something, which is fine if you are going to replace him in FA. But you probably end up with seven defensemen without a single right shot, which is also something to keep in mind. If you could trade for a guy like Schenn or Bogosian..those guys are RFA’s who are right shots and very young who I’m guessing won’t cost more than Robi is. Hmm, maybe Toronto would do a deal involving Robi and Schenn. If we keep Richards, they badly want a center.. Ribs and Robi for Schenn + ??

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by BloggingBevo on May 7, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

How about...

Robi + Lindgren + Ribs for Schenn + Grabovski? Probably never happen, but I`d consider it.

I`d do Bogosian + E. Kane + draft pick for Morrow + Robidas. No hate for Morrow, its just that younger, cheaper and more potential is almost always a no-brainer.

The guy I`ve long been saying Dallas should target (either when he becomes UFA or through a trade, is Brent Burns. Big, talented, RH shot…. Scouts have said he`s the closest thing to a Rob Blake reincarnation. I`d be ok with a modern day Blake. Anyone else? Maybe we could even swindle Volchenkov from NJ, since he had a disappointing year there… More to explore than JUST going after UFA`s (offer sheets, trades)

by Chris Barnard on May 7, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like your thinking

I like Morrow too, but due to his age I would trade him for the right deal. I’d do any of those you put up. Yeah I dream about any big guy like Burns and Weber who score and are mean. If it were me I’d at least try(assuming they re-sign Richards) to trade both Morrow and Ribs for more than two younger players, some combination of F and D. Younger, bigger, faster..setting yourself up for the future..without sacrificing the here and now. Not easy, but it would be possible.

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by BloggingBevo on May 7, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Robi

Robi has character, you can see it on the ice. He’s the guy who is just a rubber ball out there. I keep Robi, he’s the personification of what I want our D to be, heart wise. He’s Rudy pretty much, and you’re unAmerican if you don’t like the Rudy story ;p.
Now if we could just get Grossman to bounce like Robi, and not shatter his knees….

by Waywardstars on May 8, 2011 5:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've been chirping Jonesy on twitter to sign with Dallas

I loved him at Miami. He was very instrumental in our run for the NCAA championship. He’s got an amazing work ethic and he has a never quit attitude. I’d love to see him in Dallas.

on hiatus until further notice or the Stars clinch a playoff spot

by Happy Girl on May 6, 2011 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

The top NCAA guys: Chiasson, Reilly Smith, Austin Amith....

Are all staying in college next year.

I need to look into Sacchetti and Winkler. I think I actually left them off the depth chart, somehow.

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by Brandon Worley on May 6, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Re-signing Langenbrunner costs you a second round pick

No thank you.

Use the money saved to go hard after Joel Ward.

by disposablehero on May 6, 2011 6:27 PM CDT reply actions  

And not re signing him costs us a third round pick.

After the top 10, especially in a weak draft like the one coming up, it’s a total crapshoot. Losing a 2nd rounder bs a 3rd rounder won’t matter

"I’m going on record that he read it wrong. We’ll see who’s right." - Hull Fan, in regards to Joe not trading Richards

by Tsudbury on May 6, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

weak draft?

I dont know where you heard the draft is weak but I certainly havent heard that. Maybe there aren’t so many sexy picks, but there are a ton of potentially very good players this year. The top 60 is actually pretty impressive.

by TimAH on May 6, 2011 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

The people I've talked to, who cover prospects and the draft for a living...

Call this a very “uninspiring” draft class. Especially top 20.

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by Brandon Worley on May 6, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here we go..

From the guy I know that covers these guys for a living. “little enthusiasm”, “one of the worst overall drafts ever”…

The thing is, between 10 and 30 there’s a complete crapshoot in talent and after the first round there’s a steep dropoff.

The good news is that the strengths of this draft meet the needs of the Stars, especially mid- first round. There are a number of very promising, big defensemen that will be there for the Stars.

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by Brandon Worley on May 6, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

at 14 and 44 there should be some very interesting prospects available to be drafted. Probably better than their options last season.

by TimAH on May 6, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

That

is pretty ridiculous. A difference of 30 spots in the draft will unquestionably matter.

by disposablehero on May 8, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would keep him...

but I think that the NHL is a different league now. Loyalty isn`t what it used to be and we have to remember that this IS a business. Sometimes, as much as you`d like to keep a player, someone younger and cheaper comes along from within the organization and replaces them. This could happen to Langs. It`s happened to many players before him.

In 2-3 years, we could have Glennie, Smith, McKenzie, maybe Austin Smith, Fraser and even Chiasson fighting for roster spots. At that time, even Morrow could find himself on the outs. It`s hard to comprehend sometimes as a fan, but it`s a great problem to have for a GM and for a hockey team.

by Chris Barnard on May 6, 2011 6:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Someone should make a UFA and RFA list of players

But obviously my favorite player in the league Richards is our priority, I really like bieksa and ehrhoff – also wisniewski would be nice too.
Gogo-wisniewski
Robi-Grossman
Daley-Larsen/Fistric

Looks good to me!

by 91_Stars_21 on May 6, 2011 8:10 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Someone should make a UFA and RFA list of players

But obviously my favorite player in the league Richards is our priority, I really like bieksa and ehrhoff – also wisniewski would be nice too.
Gogo-wisniewski
Robi-Grossman
Daley-Larsen/Fistric

Looks good to me!

by 91_Stars_21 on May 6, 2011 8:10 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

First of all, Langenbrunner is worth a 2nd or 3rd rounder in my opinion

He brings something that most of the guys cant say on this team, considering how young we are, and that’s playoff experience. If we dont resign Richards, you’ve only got Morrow and Goligoski with any sort of Stanley Cup finals experience, and Morrow lost with the Stars in 2000. Personally, I would like to resign a gritty guy who has won two cups and bring some young guys along. He isnt the player he was, we’ve seen that, but what he can do is give you 10 – 15 goals and 40 pts in a full season. Remember he didnt quite play a full season sitting out a few in NJ early in the year. I’d take those points on my 3rd or 4th line with some time on the PP. And honestly, not too many teams are going to give Langenbrunner a contract given what he did last year, and the ones that do arent going to give him 2.5 mil. At most, he might get 1.5 based upon what he has done in the past. He wont be given as much confidence elsewhere. I think Nieuwy has a lot of confidence in the guy still and he’ll get his minutes.

I definitely think we’ll give Larsen and Vincour a shot. I still think we should sign someone else just in case Larsen needs to be sent down. If Skarastins will take a bit of a pay cut and be the 7th guy, he’d be a nice option. Woywitka needs to go. I’d like to resign Segal, but he’ll probably be a casualty of the youth movement.

by DStarsFan on May 6, 2011 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

if they really want to keep langebrunner the stars should be better suited to wait til after the draft. In that case theyd give up significantly less. I wouldn’t really want him back at either price, though. He’s done as a real impact guy, imo.

by TimAH on May 6, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Laich, Ward, Bieksa would all be great pickups.

Though I think we should pursue a trade for one of those big, hefty D-men.

Oh, and Vrbata shoots a lot. That could be useful.

by Travis Drybread on May 9, 2011 3:03 PM CDT reply actions  

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