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Dallas Stars December Prospect Rankings: Austin Smith & Reilly Smith Turn On The Heat

Before we get to this month's prospect rankings, I wanted to discuss the Stars farm system overall and what we're looking at as far as the big picture goes.

If you take a look at the current Dallas Stars roster, you'll find only four players on the team that were drafted by the Dallas Stars in the past five years. This includes Richard Bachman, Tomas Vincour and Philip Larsen, so in reality only one player drafted since 2006 -- Jamie Benn -- has had a significant impact on the current team. While the trade of Ivan Vishnevskiy (2006 draft) has certainly helped this team by adding Kari Lehtonen, there is no doubting that for a team hurting to add via free agency having some good, young talent coming up would certainly be welcome.

There is no denying that as recently as two years ago, the developmental system for the Stars was frankly horrendous. There was no defensive depth in the system aside from Larsen and the Stars were in desperate need of help along the wings. In fact, the Stars were hurting at every position in the system and we are seeing that effect now on the current roster.

It generally takes 2-3 years for a series of good drafts to really have it's impact on a team and with the Stars a) not have top-ten picks for over a decade and b) swinging and missing on 90% of their picks (including a staggering 1-for-12 in 2002) it's no wonder why the current team doesn't have the young talent it so desperately needs.

When Joe Nieuwendyk took over for the Dallas Stars in 2009, it's now apparent how he has refocused the organization at building through the draft. After three drafts it's clear he has a very specific plan in place for the team and organization he wants to build and he's remained hesitant to part with draft picks or prospects when trade winds start blowing.

More on the Stars system and the future, as well as the rankings, after the jump.

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So where do the Dallas Stars stand now?

The Stars have slowly built their farm system back up from being perhaps the worst in the NHL to certainly top-10 or even top-5. Having three picks in a row in the top 15 of the draft certainly helps, but the Stars have also managed to find a way to unearth hidden gems late in the draft -- players that will have a big impact on this team's future very soon. This is what has made Detroit so good for so long; it's not the top picks that matter, it's how well you draft in the later rounds that matter most.

For the Stars, they are suddenly very deep at defense and goaltender. Nieuwendyk has also shored up the wing positions and while some of his first round picks are certainly controversial, there's no denying the potential we're seeing in some of the late round picks his scouting department have found.

For the Stars and their fans, however, there's still going to be some waiting until we see the influx of youth that fans are hoping and waiting for. There' s a reason the Stars only gave out 2-3 year contracts this summer, aside from financial reasons. In that time, the Stars are going to be having some very young players knocking on the door to the NHL.

Because it takes so long for drafts classes to work themselves out, the instant gratification we so desperately want isn't there. There's also the fact that someone like Scott Glennie is struggling and drafting a goaltender instead of defensemen is going to slow down that instant gratification as well.

What the Stars really need, however, is a center. They're hurting for it at the NHL level and they're definitely hurting in the system. With the Stars picking up Jamieson Oleksiak last summer, expect center to be the focus heading into the 2012 draft.

So keep all of this in mind as we dive into this month's rankings and prospect updates. Even the players near the top of the rankings are not likely to impact the Stars next season -- we're likely looking at a two-season timetable before the best in the system make their way to the NHL, and that is at the earliest.

Logo_dallas_stars_mediumDisclaimer: I've removed Tomas Vincour and Philip Larsen from the prospect rankings. With both seeing significant time in the NHL this season, it's not fair to compare them to players still in the juniors.

1. Jamieson Oleksiak
2. Jack Campbell
3. Reilly Smith
4. Matej Stransky
5. Alex Chiasson
6. Austin Smith
7. Brenden Dillon
8. Brett Ritchie
9. Patrik Nemeth
10. Richard Bachman
11. Scott Glennie
12. Troy Vance
13. Colton Sceviour
14. Matt Fraser
15. Curtis McKenzie
16. Emil Molin
17. Alexander Guptill
18. Tyler Beskorowany
19. John Klingberg
20. Hubert Labrie

A few notes on the top players in the rankings:

** Jamieson Oleksiak is having a good start to his pro career with the Saginaw Spirit, with six goals and 10 points so far in 29 games. He's quickly established himself as one of the most polished defensemen in the OHL and is showing good offensive potential as well. He's had a rough time the last few games, going minus-2 with no points in December so far. Yet he's getting high praise as one of the best defensemen in the OHL and it's obvious his ceiling is still very, very high for the Dallas Stars.

** Jack Campbell has had another up and down year, as he continues to play Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde from game to game. He'll have games of absolute genius followed by games where he allows seven goals. Since being traded to the Soo Greyhounds, Campbell is 4-3-2 with a 3.07 GAA and .903 save percentage. He hasn't won a game since November 18, however, and had some tough losses this past weekend. Still, all reports are that Campbell is still progressing well and just needs to work on his focus -- everything else is nearly perfect.

** Reilly Smith had one heck of a month, being named the CCHA Player of the Month as his team went undefeated in November. Smith has shown incredible ability to take over a hockey game offensively, as well as showcasing he's not just a goal scorer with impressive physical play along the boards and defensively. This past weekend was a bit rough for Smith and his Redhawks as they fell in both games to Northen Michigan (Smith was held scoreless), yet he is starting to get considerable national attention after taking a big step forward as a leader on his team.

** The other Smith in the Stars system, Austin, had himself an incredible month as well. The ECAC Player of the Month for November is now the leading scorer in the NCAA with a staggering 1.69 points per game and 18 goals in 16 games this season. The native of Dallas, Texas has really started to put together a heck of a season in his senior year at Colgate and will become a key member of the Texas Stars next season -- if he's not pushing for the NHL.

Be careful on celebrating too early, however. Austin was drafted in 2007 and is 23 years old. While he's shown goal scoring ability before, he's exploded offensively as a senior against younger competition in a conference that isn't exactly the most competitive in the NCAA. If you look at the top scorers in the nation, Smith the only one from the top ten not in the CCHA or the WCHA.

Still, he's been a point per game player for his career at Colgate and and while he's certainly one of the older prospects in the system, he shows good promise to at least have the potential to be a promising player in the NHL.

** Finally, you might have noticed Matej Stransky in the top five of this month's power rankings. The 6'3", 200lb winger from the Czech Republic is getting some comparisons to Jaromir Jagr in his ability to use his size to create chances. More realistically, it appears that Stransky is much like Tomas Vincour -- with better playmaking ability and more dynamic potential on offense. With two goals and four points in the past three games, Stransky now has 14 goals and 32 points in 30 games. He's getting high praise for not just his scoring but his all-around play as well and appears to be yet another late-round steal by the Stars.

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whats going on with glennie anyway?

i cant seem to find any kind of news on him, last i heard he was hurt. im not really worried though, he’s only 20 and always seems to struggle when he makes an adjustment.

by the way worst e-news ever...

by heyitsthatguy! on Dec 5, 2011 10:28 AM CST reply actions  

Glennie is 21, almost 22.

He’s had a rough start to his AHL career. He missed all of training and the first few weeks of the season with his concussion and had a very slow start.

He has 2 goals and 5 assists in 18 games so far. He’s not a bust yet, but there are some concerns there.

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by Brandon Worley on Dec 5, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

his wikipedia page says 20

born 2/22/91 but i cant find anything with his numbers on there. i checked the texas stars site earlier and it had 0 points listed. where do you look for your info? because i cant find a damn thing on him and its frustrating.

by the way worst e-news ever...

by heyitsthatguy! on Dec 5, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

here ya go

texasstarshockey.com then go to stats

by sundancekid on Dec 5, 2011 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I can't do math, apparently.

Yeah, he’s 20, almost 21. So that’s much better.

Best place to look is hockeydb.com if you want a quick glance. You can also find his stats here: http://www.texasstarshockey.com/stats/playerstats/

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by Brandon Worley on Dec 5, 2011 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

John Klingbers is having some rough time.

That’s why I had no cool info about him, during my trip…

There was nothing to tell, right now.

Good times are here and Stars will take what belongs to them. Sooner or Later.

by Henri Muroke on Dec 5, 2011 10:52 AM CST reply actions  

He's going to be on Team Sweden for the World Juniors.

Will be interested to see how he looks there.

Do you think it’s just the higher level of competition?

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by Brandon Worley on Dec 5, 2011 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

It's one option.

He just lost his confidence with Jokerit Helsinki.

He has some talent, but perhaps the place was too tough, for now. I hope he can find his game with team Sweden. He came to Finland with too big “hype”. Or the results so far are looking that way.

Good times are here and Stars will take what belongs to them. Sooner or Later.

by Henri Muroke on Dec 5, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

And that shot of his.

He has to use it more. It will be something to look for.

Good times are here and Stars will take what belongs to them. Sooner or Later.

by Henri Muroke on Dec 5, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I am consistantly amazed at the role

confidence plays in athletics. Especially for younger atheltes. But even old ones, look at Tiger … or closer to home, Nystrom. I see it all the time in youth sports. Kids who have lots of talent, but don’t have the confidence to trust their talent in game situations.

by 1paniolo on Dec 5, 2011 11:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Surprised

Klingberg is that low and Sceviour is that high, especially above Fraser. Sceviour seems like a guy who would be no more than a spare part if he makes the NHL and isn’t having a good season. Fraser at least has some scoring upside.

by StarzenheimerSchmidt on Dec 5, 2011 12:09 PM CST reply actions  

Fraser is extremely one-dimensional right now.

Sceviour has developed into a very good two-way forward, and he’s an effective center.

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by Brandon Worley on Dec 5, 2011 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

This

is my favorite feature by far. Love to keep an eye on the prospects.

When these guys are good enough to make the big club, one has to wonder who they will replace.

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by Mike Russo on Dec 5, 2011 1:38 PM CST reply actions  

Couple notes on Austin Smith

He’s been a late bloomer all throughout his hockey career. He was a good youth player in Dallas, but it wasn’t until his last year in Dallas before going to prep school up north that he became a top 2 player for his age.

He didn’t start playing juniors in the BCHL until he was already 18 about to turn 19, so he was a bit older than most players that get their start in that league, but lead Penticton to the championship and averaged over a point a game. I spoke with Dave Small, an assistant coach for the Vees while Austin Smith was there, and the three things I remember him saying about Austin were that he’d have to increase his commitment to hockey to be able to make it, he’ll have to be a scorer or a good positional defensive forward, and he was still at least 3 years away.

About the ECAC not being tough competition and Austin Smith’s age: Martin St. Louis played 4 years for Vermont (still in the ECAC at the time) when the NCAA was a less traveled path to the NHL. Also, he didn’t play his first full season in the NHL until 2000-2001 when he was 25. I’m not saying Austin Smith will be the next St. Louis, but both are similar style players and have roughly the same build. St. Louis is 5’ 8" 176lbs and Smith is listed as 5’ 11" 180 lbs on the Colgate website, but unless he’s grown in the last few years he’s closer to 5’ 9" than 5’ 11".

by JKil3 on Dec 5, 2011 2:09 PM CST reply actions  

I think October was a tough transition for Reilly.

The Redhawks need him to step up and be more of a leader than he has been in season’s past. I’m glad though that others are starting to see how great his potential is and that he was not just picking up garbage goals from Andy Miele and Carter Camper. Reilly is a special player on his own who I think has the potential to play for the Dallas Stars someday.

just a girl who loves Miami U Redhawks and Dallas Stars.

by Happy Girl on Dec 5, 2011 2:43 PM CST reply actions  

I think you are being a little hard on the Stars

scouting/development team. They were hamstrung for years with trading away top round picks and placing high in the standings. With not really having any picks some years till the 4th round I think we have been better than most at mining mid round gold.

Plus there are a lot of NHL players that came up through our system even if they are not on our roster. Not taking the time to go look at facts, lol, but I think Neil, Niskanin, Smith, Ellis, Hagman, Meittenien, and Jokanin all were products of our system. (didn’t take time to look up correct spelling either, apologies to any one offended)

by 1paniolo on Dec 5, 2011 11:51 PM CST reply actions  

I was looking purely at drafts from 2006 until now.

All of the players you mentioned were drafted before then. While asking players from 2010 and 2011 to contribute is tough, we’re now 3-5 years since the drafts of 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009 and only have one player from those drafts seeing significant time in the NHL.

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by Brandon Worley on Dec 6, 2011 8:06 AM CST up reply actions  

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