Patience Paying Dividends For Philip Larsen
Sergei Zubov's skates are not easily filled. The smooth-skating, slick-passing, chain-smoking Russian magician had Dallas Stars fans spoiled from 1996 to 2009, and ever since he left the NHL for the KHL's SKA St. Petersburg, Stars fans have been clamoring to find his heir. His impact is just now being fully understood by casual observers who are starting to realize that it's not normal for a defenseman to have that level of vision and hockey smarts.
Now this article isn't going to proclaim Philip Larsen as Sergei Zubov's replacement, compare their strengths and weaknesses, or put Larsen on a pedestal that he has yet to earn. It will, however take a look at some of the names that have come and gone since Zubov's retirement, and highlight why exactly I think Larsen has the tools at his disposal to surpass those names and earn himself a long term spot on the Dallas blueline sooner than later.
Denmark isn't quite the hockey factory that Sweden, Finland, or Russia has been for years. It's a relatively young hockey program that has produced only a handful of NHL caliber players. Philip Larsen is one of those talents. Coming up through the ranks of the Swedish leagues, Larsen was drafted by the Stars in the 5th round of the 2008 NHL Entry Draft.In him, they saw the raw talent and hockey sense of an NHL player... stuck in the body of a kid. Even at the age of 22, I'd expect to see Larsen get carded trying to buy a Diet Coke. He isn't a player in the mold of Nicklas Grossman or Mark Fistric who will defend their ice with brute force, but that really isn't a requirement for players like Larsen.
The Stars see him in the same mold as a Brian Rafalski or Kris Letang. Sergei Zubov and Niklas Lidstrom have been superb defensively, while seemingly never having thrown a single hit. Hockey sense, positioning, and a strong mental makeup can make up for a lack of size and physicality. The Stars feel Larsen can slide into that role in Dallas.
It seems as though Larsen has been "knocking on the door" for a few years now, and has had a handful of call-ups to give him a taste of NHL action. While he has never really seemed to disappoint, there has been a definite learning curve that we've gotten to witness. Every game he plays is a little bit better than the last, and he has now gotten to a level that warrants consideration even in a fully healthy lineup.
The patience the Stars have shown bringing Larsen along is exactly what will set him apart from the likes of Matt Niskanen and Ivan Vishnevskiy. Vishnevskiy was highly touted as a Zubovian defenseman that would step into Sergei's shoes and grow into the role of powerplay quarterback for this team. Rather than leaving him in the AHL to fully develop his talents, the Stars seemed to send him up and down at times, even if it meant he wasn't going to suit up. At times, it felt like the Stars were an unconfident chef, repeatedly opening and closing the oven just to see if dinner is ready yet, or if it's already burnt.
Contrarily, Matt Niskanen seemed to force the Stars hand. He came on very strong as a rookie, paired with Zubov himself, and looked like a revelation. It may have been too much too soon, because once his security blanket was out of the lineup, Niskanen began the steady decline that saw him shipped to Pittsburgh with James Neal. Niskanen played only 13 games in the AHL before becoming an important cog in the Dallas defense corps, and when he got overwhelmed, the damage to his confidence was too great to overcome.
With Mark Fistric back from suspension, and Alex Goligoski and Trevor Daley back from the injury list, the Stars have some difficult decisions on who to play and who to sit from now on. While it's my personal opinion that Larsen has finally earned his spot in the lineup, and brings more to the team than someone like Adam Pardy, the more I think about it the more I'm convinced that a little more time in the AHL couldn't hurt the young Dane.
It's certainly better to over-season your youngsters than throw them into the fire before they're ready, but the most important aspect to this debate may have to do with retaining depth. In order to keep Larsen, you may have to expose another player to make room, diminishing our depth and leaving us a little more vulnerable when future injuries start to add up.
With Larsen suffering an injury against the New Jersey Devils on Friday night, the decision may be put off for a little longer, depending on the severity of the injury, but the fact remains... when the Dallas Stars have a fully healthy lineup, it appears as though they have more than 7 NHL defensemen. It will be very interesting to see who sits and who plays, and who may be on their way to Austin or elsewhere because of it.
Which 6 defensemen would you dress, and which defenseman would be on the way out?
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Larsen has been solid since he’s been up
Imo lines should be
Daley-Goose
Larsen-Souray
Fistric-Grossman
Or something similar but those six
As much as people have over criticized robi i think he has never really been as good as he has been perceived to be and that we should trade him while his value is still high… I think we could get a good return for him right now
by can we get hatcher back on Dec 17, 2011 1:05 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Maybe, but....
…Robi has a few more years on him than Souray does. We’ll have Souray for another three years at very best.
Our GM,
who art in the front office,
on Conn Smythe be they name.
by ex_seraphim (Angelou del Angel) on Dec 17, 2011 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
I am just talking rest of the year
Ideally id like us to make a serious play for suter in the offseason, him and goose could anchor our blueline for years.
I dont know how likely us doing that is however
by can we get hatcher back on Dec 17, 2011 2:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think Joe is willing to make a splash
now that he has some backing, the question is whether Suter will be available (Nash could re-sign him), or how much he’s going for. We will have a lot of $$$ room, but Joe isn’t going to over pay just to beat out other teams. Grossman and Souray will be UFA’s with Fistric and Goligoski being RFA, so Joe could make some moves at the trade deadline or in free agency. With 7 UFA’s and 6 RFA’s, he has set up the Stars very nicely.
by fivefourfighting on Dec 17, 2011 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't Souray only sign a 1 year deal?
Not saying it’s impossible he’d resign, but I would imagine there would be more competition for him this time around.
Yes, Souray is on a one year deal.
He and the Stars both wanted that. From Souray’s viewpoint it enables him to show he still has it and then try for 3 year contract at 3mil/ year or so.
Trevor Daley and Alex Goligoski
Should never ever be on the ice at the same time ever, ever
Dump Fistric
Souray/Daley
Goligoski/Robidas
Grossman/Larsen
Pardy tying us to the cap floor
In Gulutzan’s system, it appears as though the heavy hit’n’shoot defensemen just aren’t very useful in the defensive zone unless they’re killing penalties, where they can stand in front and be unpleasant, or on the power play shooting. Additionally, Robidas’ tendency and ability to play like a heavy hit’n’shoot defenseman, despite his build being indicative of a light skate’n’pass defeseman (a purpose he can also serve) makes the excess of hit’n’shoot defensemen moveable. We can’t move Pardy, he’s tying us to the cap floor, and I’d like to keep Grossman instead of Fistric because Grossman can, you know, skate. However, depending on the difference in their trade values, I could be convinced to let Grossman go for Fistric. Souray stays, obviously.
Loved the "unconfident chef" comparison.
Goligoski/Robidas
Souray/Daley
Grossman/Larsen
should all play.
Either Pardy or Fistric is going to end up traded with the other being kept to fill in when needed.
The Stars need a true #1 center more than anything. I know they want Benn to play center, but he’s a better fit at wing. This defense can hold up if we can find a way to get Eriksson and Benn both scoring on a regular basis and continue to get solid goaltending.
If Joe can swing both at the trade deadline without compromising what we have at the NHL level more power to him, but if he can only get one, I’d go for the C.
by Travis Drybread on Dec 17, 2011 7:26 PM CST reply actions
and by both I mean a center and defenseman.
by Travis Drybread on Dec 17, 2011 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
larsen is becoming the epitome of hard to play against
from my personal experiences playing hockey, defensemen like Philip Larsen are the ones i hate playing against.
i usually play forward and im on the large size for my leauge (6’2" 220lbs) and when im eyeing up opposition its not the big banger type defensemen that i worry about, its the smart, speedy, and always in the right place defensemen that will throw me off my game.
Larsens scouting reports always mentioned gap closing and playing angles and they are definately his strongest suit, as a forward you keep trying to sustain some kind of pressure in the zone but when a player like larsen is one the ice he is alwasy on you, always checking your stick, cutting off your lanes and strait up annoying with skill. it can really get your feathers ruffled.
Larsen to Austin
As much as it pains me, I have to agree that we will need all the defensemen we currently have. I’d part with Pardy otherwise. Fistric is a beast physically and is the most intimidating player we have. He has been around a while, but has never been given that much time. (I’ll never understand why Crawford played Woywitka in favor of Fistric.)
b/c
Fistric thinks he can stickhandle and ALWAYS loses control of the puck. Woywitka just tries to get rid of it and passes it to his defensive partner.
Fistric, for some reason, has confidence deking but somehow always gives the puck away. It’s embarrassing.
Plus, Fistric is prone to committing mucho penalties with his hitting. It sucks always being on the PK.
I would prefer
trading Robidas and letting Souray walk if we can make room for a real d-stud a la Weber/Suter.
Here is the list of upcoming UFA defensemen worth noting:
Nicklas Lidstrom Detroit Red Wings $6,200,000
Michal Rozsival Phoenix Coyotes $5,000,000
John-Michael Liles Toronto Maple Leafs $4,200,000
Dennis Wideman Washington Capitals $3,875,000
Pavel Kubina Tampa Bay Lightning $3,850,000
Jaroslav Spacek Montreal Canadiens $3,833,000
Francois Beauchemin Anaheim Ducks $3,800,000
Brad Stuart Detroit Red Wings $3,750,000
Filip Kuba Ottawa Senators $3,700,000
Barret Jackman St. Louis Blues $3,625,000
Cory Sarich Calgary Flames $3,600,000
John Oduya Winnipeg Jets $3,500,000
Ryan Suter Nashville Predators $3,500,000
Willie Mitchell Los Angeles Kings $3,500,000
Matt Carle Philadelphia Flyers $3,438,000
Bryan Allen Carolina Hurricanes $2,900,000
Bryce Salvador New Jersey Devils $2,900,000
Fedor Tyutin Columbus Blue Jackets $2,844,000
Tim Gleason Carolina Hurricanes $2,750,000
Josh Gorges Montreal Canadiens $2,500,000
Mark Eaton New York Islanders $2,500,000
Hal Gill Montreal Canadiens $2,250,000
Joe Corvo Boston Bruins $2,250,000
Radek Martinek Columbus Blue Jackets $2,200,000
Andy Sutton Edmonton Oilers $2,125,000
Carlo Colaiacovo St. Louis Blues $2,125,000
Adrian Aucoin Phoenix Coyotes $2,000,000
Sami Salo Vancouver Canucks $2,000,000
Johnny Boychuk Boston Bruins $1,875,000
Kurtis Foster Anaheim Ducks $1,800,000
Chris Campoli Montreal Canadiens $1,750,000
Kurt Sauer Phoenix Coyotes $1,750,000
Sheldon Souray Dallas Stars $1,650,000
Nicklas Grossman Dallas Stars $1,625,000
Josh Gorges
Would love to get him, He’s a 11 on a weaker then normal Canadiens team. The only other D-man that has a + is Subban (2). Living in Canada I usually get to see Montreal play and despite despising the team, I actually like him and his play. I’m guessing Montreal will re-sign him and let Gill and/or Spacek go since their getting up there in age.
by Henderson33 on Dec 17, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
Larsen has defeated most obstacles put against him this year
To me the big knock on him is at times he gets pushed off the puck way too easy, besides that the kid is NHL ready, let him stay
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by jordan.saleh on Dec 17, 2011 10:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Larsen looks ready.
But perhaps a trip to Austin wouldn’t be that bad. Next season he should be a regular.
Trevor Daley is my cup of tea.
Would like to see Larsen here.
But can understand it might be the smarter move (financially & depth wise) to send him to Austin to be the first call up on any injury. You still have the option to bring him up for good later in the season if needed for playoffs or a end of season playoff push.
i actually like all our dmen
i think daley has been really good ever since he got that contract extension, souray is back from the dead and goose is goose. i’d keep fistric as a 7th if possible next season, a big bruiser would be great in that role since he would add some physicality if someone was out. as for larsen, i thought he was trade bait at the start of the year but man has he grown this season. he always looked kind of intimidated and now you can see that he knows he can play in the nhl. i would send him down one more time but call him up for the playoffs.
by the way worst e-news ever...
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