Dallas Stars Trade Scenarios: What's Your Take?

So long as we secure Goose long term, then I pull the trigger on that.

weber is not phil kessel or jeff carter. he isn’t an all-star that gets squeeked in by voter homerism. he is the heir apparent to lidstrom in the early stages of his prime, a scott stevens type player who can generate both offense and defense. unlike other defensemen, weber really doesn’t have a weakness and plays at an all-pro level in both ends of the ice. that being said, the best comparison is to look for a scott niedermayer or chris pronger type trade.

pronger was traded from anaheim to philly for lupul (a young top 6 player, sbisa, (a young top 4 dman) and 1st round 2009, 1st round 2010, and conditional 2010/2011 pick

i can’t find what a trade transaction that took place involving scott niedermayer, but needless to say, he was regarded as more valuable to the ducks than pronger, so i’d say his trade value would have been comparable although slightly higher. i’d assume throwing in a 2nd round pick to boot.

in today’s nhl roster, weber is up there on par with the pronger/niedermayer of yore.

if he has pronger type value, then:
young top 6 roster winger, young top 4 roster dman, 2 1st round picks

if he has niedermayer value, add a 2nd round pick

what does that mean for a hypothetical dallas trade?
eriksson > lupul, goligoski => sbisa, 1 1st rounder, and perhaps a good prospect

or

eriksson, daley/grossman, oleksiak, 2 1st rounders, and a 2nd round pick

eriksson is basically our only good young-ish winger who has excellent trade value if we are not willing to part with benn.

morrow = tail end of his prime
ribiero = late stages of prime
ott = not good enough to be considered in this trade
glennie = no trade value b/c he can’t even do well in the ahl
jack campbell = not needed, nashville already has their goalie of the future

yikes. not worth it. better off going for suter or somebody on another financially strapped team.

Nashville would take us up on that

Larsen should be groomed to take Robidas’ spot in the near future.

I’d rather see Robidas or even Souray shipped out

Have to look at it from other teams’ perspectives. If the Stars made Jamie Benn available, would we want declining stars in return? Why would the Stars do that? Anaheim will want someone like Eriksson in return. Maybe a couple lesser players, because the point for them is to add depth. But younger players not older. Stars don’t have the right kind of pieces to be a trading partner for Ryan.

Not anywhere near bad enough to give Anaheim fair value for him

to lose all the valuable picks and prospects for one player.

anywhere near bad enough to give Columbus fair value for him

Morrow and Robidas for

Schenn and Bozak/Kulemin/Grabovski

Assume Regier, Gillis and Malone aren’t complete nimrods

yeah id say goligoski is probably more of a number 2 as well as oleksiak and larsen having the potential to be number 2 type defensemen. I do think you can get by having multiple guys like that but no true number one.

We have seven defensemen that are doing just fine and at least six that look like they’re going to be top-four level talent. We have a glut of top-six wingers and Fiddler signed for two more years to anchor the bottom six. What we need are talented centers. We have Benn, Ribeiro, and absolutely no one else.

Furthermore, I would assert that just because a team doesn’t have one defenseman playing half the game doesn’t mean they need one. To me, that situation is less a compliment to the No. 1 and more an indictment of the rest of the group (the Niedermayer/Pronger Ducks carried Joe DiPenta and Kent Huskins as their 5 and 6 defensemen when they won the cup, Jay Bouwmeester was the best of an AHL-level group in Florida and is now being exposed as top-four at best in Calgary, Lidstrom has suffered Brett Lebda, Andreas Lilja and Jonathan Ericsson as his depth teammates, etc. Depth is much more preferable than top-end talent)

But only if we can lose Ribeiro and Morrow in the process. I don’t see it happening

to do it is to add salary with a guy you don’t really want but is a UFA at the end of the season so you’re not stuck with them.

joe should be proactive and act soon given that every other team is in a wait-and-see mode. i think it’s better to be the buyer when prices are low instead of buying when everyone else wants to buy as well.

the trick, in my opinion, is to trade up pieces but leave enough room for several roster extensions. i.e. if joe has $10M cap, they should play with $5-$6M for add ons and leave $4-$5M free to lock down benn and co.

so if joe could trade away a guy who costs us $2M cap + eats up $5M more cap, then we should try and go for a $7M total cap player(s), which will allow us to have $5M + salaries coming off books to play with.

Not much anyone would want in terms of UFAs. Especially at center. So even then you’re looking at trades.