Dallas Stars Daily Link: Gulutzan Says Stars Honeymoon Is Over
by Erin Bolen on Nov 16, 2011 6:00 AM CST
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And when it was bad, it was horrid.
The Dallas Stars got their butts royally whooped 6-0 by the Florida Panthers on Tuesday in their first game back at the American Airlines center in more than a week.
And worse than the final score was the lack of effort from practically every player on the ice, something that head coach Glen Guluzan put succinctly in this quote, I think.
"I just think the honeymoon is over. I think the honeymoon is over. You start off 11-3 and teams are prepared. They are prepared to play you, they watch you probably a little closer. I thought Florida did a really good job of pre-scouting us. You can have systems given to you from God above, but if you don't add work to those systems you are not going to win. We got severely outworked."
Brenden Morrow called it "embarrassing" and Stephane Robidas said the team was "outworked."
Um, yeah. Less of that, please, guys. Like never again.
After the jump, more on the loss to the Panthers, why the Stars originally worried about drafting Loui Eriksson and the hugs we all need today.
- I think the first line in the paywalled story from Mike Heika is all you really need to know. "Well, now we'll see how the Stars handle a crisis." [DallasNews.com]
- And the quick and very, very dirty gamer from ESPN Dallas. Nope, it didn't get any prettier on paper. [ESPN Dallas]
- The Panthers, on the other hand, were really, really pleased with how it went, and why not? The best night might have belonged to Stephen Weiss, who finished at plus-6, the best single-game plus/minus ever against the team since the move to Dallas. [DallasNews.com]
- Our friends at Litter Box Cats are positively giddy about how things went from their perspective. [Litter Box Cats]
- The Panthers can't seem to buy a win at home, but boy can they win on the road. This fact displeases the Stars fan in me. [Miami Herald]
- Enough of that game. In much better news, the sale of the Stars is set to be official on Friday. I found this article to be the most amusing, since it apparently needed to attribute that fact to one of its own "insider" sources. Um, nice work guys. Glad you figured that out. [Sportsnet]
- Jamie Benn will grow a public personality one day, I promise. But until then, you'll get more quotes like these in profiles, this particular one being written before Tuesday's loss. Also, the picture. They couldn't come up with anything better? [GantDaily.com]
- E.J. Hradek has some high praise for Loui Eriksson in his weekly column. There's also a fun little note about some of the concerns the Stars originally had when drafting him. [NHL.com]
- Marty Turco to the Toronto Maple Leafs? Hard to imagine a way that wouldn't end in disaster, but if it's real... good luck to him. He'll need it on that team and in that market. [Puck Daddy]
- And speaking of former Stars, Ken Hitchcock swears he isn't all about the defensive side of hockey. This story, and the pair of articles linked within, make some really interesting points about how a coach has to evolve with the player's he's given. [ProHockeyTalk]
- I meant to link this yesterday, but I love, love, love this profile of Eddie Belfour. It's wonderfully reported and written, and I love it more than I do kittens. [Yahoo]
- Around the Pacific Division: The Phoenix Coyotes saw the other side of the shootout Tuesday when they used the skills competition to pick up a 3-2 victory over those Maple Leafs. [Globe & Mail]
- Because we all need a hug this morning, I give to you the weekly hockey hugs feature, which always makes me smile. [Puck Daddy]
- There would have been so many opportune Brenden Morrow bobblehead stories if the captain (or to be fair to him, anyone on the rest of the team) had done anything on Tuesday. Instead, he talks about just how bad the loss was.
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Three games in a row
It all starts with the break down of our D-Men. The scouts now know a furious forecheck causes our D-Men to bumble the puck keep us in our own zone. Our defense panics at the sight of a fast forecheck, we need to pause for a second and deke or at least wait for a good pass when the opponents come at us like that. If they can just have some composure under pressure, that fast forecheck will leave us wide open for a counter or even breakaways.
by onadesertedisland on Nov 16, 2011 7:39 AM CST reply actions
First big test for Gully
This is kinda like a rookie pitcher who shuts down a line up one game and then gets shelled once the other team picks up on his habits. The same it true here.. The other teams have picked apart what the Stars did in the first few games and now know how to play them…
I'm going to take a pillowcase and fill it full of bars of soap and beat the shit out of you!
The Sports Net article is just embarrassing.
When it first came up, it was spelled “Galigardi,” but they’ve at least fixed it since then.
And the Stars lead the “Western Division?” It shows you how little they pay attention to anything outside of the Eastern Conference. What a friggin joke.
And to add to the misery of last night, there was a dead kitten on my road to work.
Perfect.
"He punched the highlights out of her hair.... He punched the HIGHLIGHTS out of her hair!!!" -- Young Neil
Leafs not interested in Turco; but Turco mentoring Jack? Hell Yeah.
The Puck Daddy report was just updated to indicate Burke has no interest in Turco. Too bad; I’ll be at the the Jan 3rd game against the Lighting. I would have loved to see Marty suit up once more.
What I find more interesting is the article mentions him training and assisting with the Soo Greyhounds. Marty mentoring Jack like that is fantastic.
Nevermind. He's helping with the Soo Junior Greyhounds
An Atom team. Not the OHL. Too bad.
sooo WTF was that last night?
ughh…..horrid. time for Gully to get the ship righted.
NO This is why i dont come here so much anymore. it has become a destination for certain types which i am not. Love the rangers, not this -- Mark from OC on Arrested Development
Justin Verlander? I piss on Justin Verlander --AJM
hmmm...looking for a bright spot for the game last night....
Well, it was nice to see the video of Ott at practice and makes me happy he will be back for the next game.
The team as a whole looked pretty half-assed about the whole thing. I just hope Guluzan can use this as a learning opportunity for the guys. Florida did play really well…but Dallas played really lazy. It was a perfect storm of opposites.
Last Night was a wake up Call
Its time for a total makeover. Lets face it, what was pegged as the number 1 line of Ribero and Morrow, is barely better than a 4th line. They can no longer consider that line combinations above a 3rd line. But a 3rd line is a checking line, and they don’t do that well either. Its time to split those two up. They have been together for several years, and what has it gotten us? Nothing. Its too the point now, that every time I see them step on the Ice, I wait for something bad to happen. I also feel its time for new leaders and a New Captain. You know who I’m talking about. He may be soft spoken verbally, but he speaks loudly on the ice and has been since the last half of last year, and has been the on ice leader this year. #14 should be wearing the “C”. I also think that making this change now will send a message to the other players.
Everyone keeps making excuses for disastrous losses and horrible play like last night, saying that its bound to happen and its early. Remember we missed the playoffs last year by one Freaking point. Will last nights efforts be the game where we lost that point. Its not time to panic, but Now is the time to get their S*&^% together. Every game should be played like a game 7.
Squirrelshot
They've been together for 2 years and it's gotten us nothing?
Morrow led the team in goals last year. Him and Ribs were unstoppable for most of the season. Nobody showed up during the collapse, so hanging it on just those 2 isn’t fair.
It’s not time to go into panic mode just yet.
"He punched the highlights out of her hair.... He punched the HIGHLIGHTS out of her hair!!!" -- Young Neil
Not hanging on just those two
Last year was last year. Cheechoo won the scoring title a few years ago, and where is he now. Not comparing the two, just making an observation. Its obvious from watching the last 17 games, that Morrow has lost a couple of steps. I keep hearing he is playing with an injured elbow. If its injured, then get it fixed and let someone else that’s not injured take his place. As for last night, it was pretty much the entire team that sucked. If we had a good captain, that would not have happened IMO. We may have still lost the game, but not as bad.
I’m not in panic mode just yet, but do feel that a major change needs to take place NOW instead of later, especially when we know just how important one point can be.
IMO, I think that no one should be wearing the “C” right now. Take it away from Morrow and let someone earn it. After the next 5 to 10 games if he steps up to the place then he can earn it back or maybe someone else earns it. Giving the way Fiddler is playing, I would not be objectionable to him wearing it.
Squirrelshot
by Derrick Ard on Nov 16, 2011 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
It's times like these
that i appreciate how stoic hockey players and coaches can be. If we took this philosophy, we’d be having captain tryouts every two months, and that’s at the longest interval. Leadership means nothing if you only like your leaders when things are going well. It’s proven when everything goes wrong. No player on the team has the experience and respect that Morrow does, and therefor no one can step up and do his job. It takes more than one bad game and 2 bad third periods to show that a captain has lost his edge. Furthermore, it doesn’t matter how good your captain is if nobody follows. It wasn’t enough, but Morrow was the only one who looked emotionally engaged at any point last night. Nobody followed that. Finally, if the leadership of the team (GM Joe and Gully) react as quickly as you would like, you end up with a team playing in fear instead of with confidence, and there’s absolutely zero benefit from that. Last night might have been atrocious, but check the standings. We’re still 3rd in the west. You don’t get to that point with a team who’s captain deserves to be stripped of his title, much less a team where no one deserves to be wearing the C.
Although I agree with everything that you said, I think Brenden could have done a better job of being a team leader in the last three games.
If you see that your team has been sluggish and taken advantage of, get in a fight, inject some energy in the game. I really didn’t like how he started chirping at Kunitz and then at some FLA player at the end of the third when the game was lost. What’s the point? If you need to get into somebody’s face, do it early in the game when you are 2:0, not 6:0.
Also looking at our D efforts in the last three games, I am not sure we are getting into playoffs unless Joe pulls some D upgrade. I didn’t realize Goose meant THAT much to the team. Now my only hope is that Larson can step up.
by Supernova10 on Nov 16, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
I'm
not a panic, sky-is-falling guy at all. But I would like to see those two broken up. They’ve had chemistry for awhile, but they don’t seem like a good pair. Neither can get anywhere quick enough. They both need to play with speedier players. Morrow is very slow, not sure if he was always so slow but it doesn’t get much slower for an NHL player. He can’t ever catch up to where he’s trying to go. Maybe put him with Eriksson and Benn for awhile and see what happens. Maybe he could make a living cleaning up their rebounds. I wouldn’t mind them at least trying to trade both of those guys. Both are older and their contracts end after next season anyway I believe. They don’t fit the ‘pacey’ style. All the other lines have speed.
by StarzenheimerSchmidt on Nov 16, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
I'm fine with splitting them up
But it’s the idea that they are 4th line players and have character problems that I take exception to. I do wish they were faster, but you could say that for everyone. Skating is the most important skill in the NHL, and we could use a lot more of it.
I will also agree with Supernova that Morrow should have engaged sooner in the game than he did, and should have done it with a higher intensity. I was more just pointing out that he was the only one who did anything at all.
I should also pitch a compliment to Fiddler, as he was the only one moving his feet last night.
Nothing on NHL
The loss last night was so bad, that even the NHL was embarrassed to post any articles on the front page of their website as of 9:30am Central
Squirrelshot
Not having an answer when things started falling part
was a large part of this team’s undoing last year.
How they respond to this will start to show us if anything’s different than last year. They’re saying the right things, yes, but they talked the talk last year, too, and still couldn’t respond on the ice.
Morrow seems to have lost some fire in his belly when it comes to the Stars. It was painfully obvious when he went to the Olympics, how he was able to elevate his play for Team Canada, but lacked intensity, focus and a sense of purpose while playing for the Stars.
He just is not showing me anything this year. A sSore elbow
by William Shatner on Nov 16, 2011 5:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions
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..was going to write, a “sore elbow” should not affect his skating. He’s 1 or 2 steps behind the play so regularly these days that he should not be on a scoring line.
Ribeiro desperately needs to break out of his funk too. He still has terrific hands, but I think he would benefit greatly with more speed on his line.
by William Shatner on Nov 16, 2011 5:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
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