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SB Nation Western Conference Rankings: Dallas Worst Of The West?

Last week, all of the managers for SB Nation's hockey sites joined together to rank the teams in the Western Conference. Not surprising, honestly, the Dallas Stars finished in the bottom five of the West. This is a common theme this preseason for the Stars, with many prognosticators not feeling too optimistic about a team without Brad Richards and the lowest salary cap hit in the NHL. 

Throw in a rookie head coach who has just two seasons of coaching above the ECHL level under his belt, six new players on the roster and a team still without an owner and it's easy to see why hockey minds might not feel too optimistic about the Stars this season.

Of course, the Dallas Stars don't have to be better than most teams in the West this season. They just have to be better than the teams in the bottom half of the West. After the jump, a look at the rankings and I'll try and break down why the Stars deserve to be considered better than the other Worst In The West teams -- according to these rankings.

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Team Overall Rank Average Rank
Vancouver Canucks 1 1.43
San Jose Sharks 2 2
Detroit Red Wings 3 3.29
Chicago Blackhawks 4 4.36
Los Angeles Kings 5 4.57
Nashville Predators 6 6.86
St. Louis Blues 7 7.29
Columbus Blue Jackets 8 8.29
Anaheim Ducks 9 8.64
Minnesota Wild 10 10.29
Phoenix Coyotes 11 11.64
Dallas Stars 12 12
Calgary Flames 13 12.71
Colorado Avalanche 14 13.14
Edmonton Oilers 15 13.5

According to the rankings, the highest vote that Dallas received was 9th, while there was one vote for 15th. Most voters considered the Stars to be right there where they finished -- 12th in the Western Conference.

What is frustrating for us Stars fans is that while we see this team on a daily basis and we can see what coach Gulutzan is building, it's tough for those without a close view of this team to look past certain glaring uncertainties. The loss of Brad Richards -- no matter what you might think of his level of play overall -- is going to be very hard for this team to overcome all at once. 

Many people point to Jamie Benn as the savior for this team, a guy who can step up and fill that void left by Richards. The problem with this thinking is that Jamie Benn is a much different player offensively than Richards -- Jamie Benn is a special player who can create offensive chances for himself in open ice, but he's nowhere near the playmaker that Richards was for those around him. Now, Benn makes up for this with his defensive prowess and his physicality, but thinking that Benn is just going to step up this season and score near 80 points is a tough assumption to make.

What the Dallas Stars are hoping to accomplish this season is to become a better team overall, a roster that embraces the team aspect and doesn't need a superstar to propel them forward. What many are seeing is that with Brad Richards, the Stars barely missed the playoffs and without him -- there's little chance they'll be able to seriously compete for a playoff spot. Yet what people don't see is a roster full of players that have the ability rise up together and play better overall as a team, and not be so reliant on a top-heavy offense.

The simple fact is that is how this team must approach this season, because no matter how we try to stack it, the Stars are struggling to keep pace with an ultra-competitive West. Personally, I feel that the Stars are going to be a better team this season overall than last season -- unfortunately, every team in front of them in the West improved as well.

There's no way the Stars are going to compete for 82 games this season with San Jose, Los Angeles, Detroit or Vancouver. You could also add the Chicago Blackhawks to that list, who are trying to rebound from an absurdly disappointing season last year.

So that brings me back to my original point at the beginning of this article: the Stars only have to be better than eight other teams in the conference to have a successful season. According to these rankings -- and according to our own predictions for the season -- the Stars are only likely to be better than a few. There's no doubt that the Stars are a better team overall than the Calgary Flames and Colorado Avalanche. The Edmonton Oilers have major issues as well, but it's only a matter of time before the absurd level of young talent on that roster takes over and they start to do good things. 

Where the real race will be, however, is between Anaheim, Minnesota, Phoenix and Dallas. The Stars are more than capable of playing a better season overall than these three teams and leap-frogging them in the standings. What's important for the Stars this season -- and where they have failed the past two years -- is to not give points away to these very same teams they'll be competing so closely with. Too many times the Stars have allowed these teams to walk away with an extra point when the Stars failed to close out a close game and allowed the game to go to overtime. Those extra points hurt badly when you consider just how close a race for that final playoff spot can be.

St. Louis, Columbus and Nashville all made significant improvements this offseason and it's no surprise to see them expected in the postseason. The Stars have the ability to compete with all three on a game-to-game basis, although it's going to be interesting to see how Dallas approaches these games where the talent level overall is not tilted in their favor.

The Stars the past few seasons have had the ability to make the playoffs. When the season started to ramp up and teams took their game to another gear as the postseason approached, the Stars were unable to keep up. Their team game collapsed and the "stars"  were unable to lift the team on their backs and carry them forward. Every team that finds postseason success find that balance between the top players and the team aspect and this is exactly what the Stars are looking for this season.

The key is going to be how the Stars approach the games against the teams they'll be competing directly with for those middle spots in the conference. Last season, they fell apart in these games and yet still missed the postseason by just one point. This year, with Richards gone and the need for a postseason berth at an all-time high, they'll have to find a way to take it to that next gear.

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I would switch the Coyotes and the Stars

but other than that I think the network did a pretty reasonably good job voting on this. They’re just preseason projections after all. Like off-season rankings in CFB, they’ll likely be really wrong in a few weeks.

by Brad Gardner on Oct 6, 2011 12:08 PM CDT reply actions  

The Stars are definitely capable of finishing ahead of the Coyotes, Wild, Ducks and Blues

But the injuries are already starting to scare me and the season hasn’t even started. I know we have good depth but our record with Burish and Grossman out last year shows how important they are. Larsen is fully capable of performing at the NHL level- the only concern I have there is size. Larsen is undersized like a few other Stars d men and the other pacific teams are all enormous for the most part.

by T-rom on Oct 6, 2011 12:46 PM CDT reply actions  

I would rather see the Stars test their depth

And suffer trough injuries now rather than in February like last season.

by brendan1 on Oct 6, 2011 3:09 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

If the "real race"

is between Minnesota, Anaheim, Phoenix and Dallas, we’re going to win that every time. Minnesota has the worst defense core in the league, Phoenix looks like it’s going to take a nosedive and calling Anaheim top-heavy is like calling Israel Jewish. Dallas- and Colorado, if I’m honest- aren’t getting anywhere near the respect they deserve. I fully expect the other three teams in that group to collapse and the race to actually be between Dallas, Colorado and St. Louis

by Hillbutton on Oct 6, 2011 12:46 PM CDT reply actions  

If Anaheim is top heavy then what are the Stars?

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by Josh Lile on Oct 6, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Less

top heavy than the Ducks. They are sick at the top, sure, but they have four guys at most who will score 20 goals. They have the top line, then Selanne, then a couple ancient guys filling out the second line. Stars could have five or six 20 goal guys. So spread out more.

by StarzenheimerSchmidt on Oct 6, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

Selanne is ancient but he’s still bringin’ it.

by StarzenheimerSchmidt on Oct 6, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, you're saying the Ducks have 4 very good scorers on the top two lines.

The Stars have 5 scorers, and none of them are elite goal scorers.

That isn’t much depth. The last really good Stars team had depth…this one does not.

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by Josh Lile on Oct 6, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats the way I look at it too. I think we will have 4 20 goal scorers anyway. I dont think you can really count on it from Ott and I assume Goligoski is the other possibility. I think the Ducks are a better team than the Stars whos “depth” is getting overrated, imo. The lower lines may look better but I certainly don’t expect them to score much.

by TimAH on Oct 6, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ducks are much deeper team than everybody thinks, Yes, their top line is very good, but their second line

not that much worse, and they have some skilled guys on a 3rd line as well. Their defense is solid, and Hiller is simply outstanding! That’s is one tough team to beat, as was clearly evidenced by our record against them last season.

by iHorses on Oct 6, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't go that far
Yes, their top line is very good, but their second line not that much worse

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by Josh Lile on Oct 6, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

I see Morrow scoring 25-30, Ribs 20 or so, Ryder 25 or so, Eriksson around 30, and Ott around 20. And I think Benn breaks out for 35 or so. Yeah.

Don’t know how many will agree with those projections but if it does turn out, that’s definitely more scoring depth than Anaheim.

by StarzenheimerSchmidt on Oct 6, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I for one is actually glad the Richards is gone and Stars have no "star" on their roster.

Far too often in the last 2 seasons Stars have relied on him to produce, and either stopped producing themselves, or Brad failed to deliver. His play after the concussion (and frankly, even before that, especially his defensive play) was nothing special. He only cared about his own production, and it was clear (especially at the end of the season) that he set his mind on leaving Stars and going somewhere else. Hopefully, without a “go to guy” on their roster, Stars will realize that every one of them is “go to guy” and win as a team.

by iHorses on Oct 6, 2011 1:13 PM CDT reply actions  

I love all the prognosticating before the first game is played

Brad Richards this and Brad Richards that… the longer he is mentioned as a factor pertaining to this team the longer we retain his absence as an excuse for losing games. iHorses is right, the team will bond even stronger when no single player stands in the spotlight. I think the boys in the locker room, and many of us fans have already moved beyond the Richards factor and it’s only the media and outsiders who continue to harp.

Instead of looking at who’s missing, I prefer to look forward to the season as a whole and focus on the positives we have going for us. First, I think the roster looks better now than it did at this time last year… deeper, bigger, tougher. Last October I remember thinking defense was the biggest concern that had not been addressed during the off season. This year I feel it was. The goaltending looks good. The special teams situation should improve with our new specialists in place. And as was the case last year, the forwards look really exciting. The second positive is the fact we do have the lowest paid roster. That alone sounds bad but when you consider the impending ownership change I consider the current payroll figure an example of responsible management and a perfect position to be at this point in the ownership turnover process. Whoever ends up holding the keys to this franchise will surely want to build a winner. So I’m looking to the post holiday stretch as a key period where Joe Nieuwendyk will have new money and lots of cap space to address whatever obstacles are standing between our beloved Stars and a post season appearance. Enough with the speculation over where the Stars will finish. It’s time to play hockey!!! Go Stars!!!

by TheGeach on Oct 6, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Finishing between 9th and 12th – is absolutely the worst place to finish.

I hope the Stars make the playoffs (they desperately need it to generate some fan interest). If not (injuries, inability to significantly improve at trade deadline), it is much better to finish 14-15th and draft a real difference maker.

by Supernova10 on Oct 6, 2011 1:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Give yourself to the Dark Side, Brandon.

It is the only way you can save your team. Yes, your thoughts betray you. Your feelings for intangibles are strong. Embrace the Intangibles!

by 1paniolo on Oct 6, 2011 1:26 PM CDT reply actions  

PHRASING!

(+1 if you know the reference)

by jabudi on Oct 7, 2011 7:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

That reminds me ...

I’ve got some Archer’s I haven’t watched on DVR!! yeah

by 1paniolo on Oct 7, 2011 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Minnesota and Columbus?

I’d easily put the Stars above these 2 teams. As stated above, Minnesota’s defense is pretty lackluster. And Columbus has one of the worst goaltending situations in the league unless Steve Mason stands on his head all season, which would surprise me. I’m not convinced that Carter and Wisniewski are the answer there either.

I wouldn’t count out Phoenix. Some young players and Tippett’s system will keep them around. And despite all of their flaws that oughta catch up to them eventually, Anaheim will be tough once again.

Stars can sneak in 7th or 8th.

by oddlay on Oct 6, 2011 1:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Love the underdog

For me as a fan, I love it when experts, analysists, and especially opposing teams look at the Stars as bottomefeeders. Losing Brad, and getting much needed depth for all four lines is worth it. Adding Fiddler, Ryder, and veteran defenseman will shore up some of the major rough spots we’ve had the last three seasons. Not to mention that we’ll have new ownership in the next couple of months, which will add morale to the team and fanbase. This team will be a tough team to play against and will make the playoffs. Drop the puck already!!!

by darksidecowboy on Oct 6, 2011 2:04 PM CDT reply actions  

I really don't understand

How it is possible EVERY off-season almost all the WCF gets “better”. It just doesn’t make sense, yet I hear it every year it seems. Yeah every team made tweaks or even major changes(LAK). However it is impossible for all these teams to get better every season without an equal number of teams getting worse. In the end the Stars will still fight tooth and nail for every single point in an ultra competitive WCF. But it’s not like the conference is better than it was last season IMO.
The coaching is better, the defense is better, the overall team is slightly less talented yet deeper. I think this team will be a lot like a Tippett team, in the sense that it will be better than the sum of its parts. The team will work cohesively and rely on stellar goaltending and may just sneak into the playoffs.

by brendan1 on Oct 6, 2011 2:29 PM CDT via iPhone app reply actions  

The Western Conference continues to get better, because the Eastern Conference continues to get worse!

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by Tsudbury on Oct 6, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're assuming a closed system...

It’s not like these teams are just swapping players around. Some retire, some wash out, free agents move around new blood comes in, rookies are stronger than they were last year, etc, etc. It’s also possible that the overall game gets played with more skill than it did 5 years ago. People are getting better, faster, stronger all the time. Also the east sucks…

by Link462 on Oct 6, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes the game is trending up right now

As a league overall. Like inflation maybe your team is bringing up stronger faster more skilled rookies, but so is every other team in the NHL. It would be like saying your richer today than you were a year ago because you earned interest on your savings. On average so did everyone else, therefore everyones money is worth less and you are not richer.
I do not believe the Canucks, Sharks, Hawks, Wings, Preds, Coyotes, Wild are better overall teams than they were last year.

by brendan1 on Oct 6, 2011 3:08 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

that's what I'm saying

Even if most teams are improved this year they can still be relatively equal. To take an extreme analogy. If a bunch of SEC recruits suddenly went to the sunbelt conference equally distributed then every team in the sunbelt would be significantly improved, yet relative to each other they’d stay about the same, give or take a breakout star or two. So if you look at it within just the Sunbelt conference in this case, every time got better and there is no corollary team getting worse.

by Link462 on Oct 6, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

corrections...

conference and were equally distributed, then every….

every team got better…

by Link462 on Oct 6, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Random Question

As we have just signed Oleksiak to an entry level deal (per Dallas Stars twitter) does that count against the cap?

by Huw Wales on Oct 6, 2011 2:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I wouldn't think so

Unless he winds up in the NHL this season. (Which of course he won’t)

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by Tsudbury on Oct 6, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats what I thought...

I’m not sure if its unusual for him to sign an entry level deal now. I thought that it was mostly those who were playing in the AHL or NHL who signed entry level deals this soon. But I’m probably wrong.

by Huw Wales on Oct 6, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah okay.

I assume this is just basic house keeping and getting it out of the way in that case?

by Huw Wales on Oct 6, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the same story..

Every year no network or magazine gives the Stars their due. Yes losing Richards will hurt, but not that bad. How many shorthanded goals were given up while he quaterbacked the PP? There are still too many intangibles this season to write them off so fast. They can hang tough through the first half of the season, new ownership comes in, and then before you know it trade deadline is here and then maybe, just maybe they bring in someone to help push them into the playoffs. I remember one year SI had them dead last in the NHL based on the previous year. What happened? Playoff spot. Next couple of seasons it kept happening. Bottom of the pack and then all of sudden one of those seasons they won something called the President’s Trophy. Bring on the new season because I am cautiously optimistic.

by travelingman on Oct 6, 2011 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

HOW DID NASHVILLE GET BETTER!?!?

Sorry for the yelling but I was asking this on the other thread and I’ve yet to get a good answer. They had a terrible off-season. In my opinion they probably had the worst off-season in the league. They’re starting six rookies this year! How? How? How?

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by EagleBelf on Oct 6, 2011 3:23 PM CDT reply actions  

I never said Nashville got better.

But as long as they have Pekka Rinne, they’ll be competitive.

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by Brandon Worley on Oct 6, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

But, but, but I was reacting to this:
St. Louis, Columbus and Nashville all made significant improvements this offseason and it’s no surprise to see them expected in the postseason.

I understand what you mean but competitive and significantly improved are two very different things. IMHO their off-season was an unbelievable example of mismanagement. RFA problems, getting destroyed in Weber’s Arbitration, and losing Ward, Dumont, and Goc without replacing them is just a crazy amount of negative to me. I just don’t think Rinne is enough this year.

I’m not trying to take it out on you Brandon. I think you’re right on the money on most of this. I just keep seeing people talking about how Nasvhille is going to continue what they did last season and I just don’t understand why. The Stars off-season was pretty good considering Richards and no one will do anything but rate us down. While Nashville’s was horrible in every single sense of the word and no one will touch them in the ranking. I just don’t get it.

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by EagleBelf on Oct 6, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

i dint know we had the lowest salary cao in the league

i think that’s awesome, that way when we do well its even more bad arse.
go underdogs!

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by 8thegreat on Oct 6, 2011 5:37 PM CDT reply actions  

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