SB Nation's Mock NHL Expansion Draft: Dallas Stars Protected List
In the interest of killing time in the waning off-season, the SB Nation NHL community is putting together a mock expansion draft. Voting has already taken place at the main NHL site, and Winnipeg and Quebec City have been chosen the winners despite my best efforts to vote a new NHL franchise for Houston of Kansas City in an effort to reduce hypothetical Dallas Stars travel. Oh well.
Visit the main page for the mock draft exercise here.
The next step in the process is for each team to submit a protected list.
Here are the rules:
- Teams can protect either 1 goalie, 5 defensemen and 9 forwards OR 2 goalies, 3 defensemen and 7 forwards.
- If you protect two goalies, at least one goalie left unprotected must have played in at least 10 games last season OR 25 games in the last two seasons combined. One game = at least 31 minutes.
- Each team must leave unprotected at least one defenseman who appeared in 40 games last season OR 70 games in the last two seasons combined.
- Each team must leave unprotected at least two forwards who appeared in 40 games last season OR 70 games in the last two seasons combined.
- Players who have not played 50 NHL games are automatically exempt.
That leaves us with pretty few choices where the Stars are concerned. None of the kids on the farm (I don't think) have played 50 NHL games and thus are protected.
We're going the 1 Goalie, 9 forward route, obviously.
The forward list of 9 writes itself: Brenden Morrow, James Neal, Jamie Benn, Loui Eriksson, Brad Richards, Mike Ribeiro, Steve Ott, Tom Wandell, and.... and... uhhh...
That's where we need a little help, so vote below for the forward that you would protect from the expansion draft. If anyone wants to place a wager on Brunnstrom winning, email me about some great odds I'm offering.
The Defense: Robidas, Grossman, Fistric are shoe ins. We figure we'll protect Skrastins just because. Some say Daley, and others say Niskanen. Protecting Niskanen is an option because he seemingly has the most potential, where as Trevor Daley has had that said about him too many times now, and his salary might be a little high for services rendered.
So also discuss Niskanen vs Daley, and go ahead and assume that "neither" is not an option.
***All of this is assuming that Niskanen and Neal get re-signed, and that Jere Lehtinen retires. ***
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I’ll be very interested to see how the forward vote goes.. Personally, I think you have to protect Segal and that’s who I voted with.
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I was torn between segal and burish.
But I like the grit burish brings… it’s kind of unfair since we haven’t had a chance to see how he plays with the stars.
Also, as much as I hate it… I would vote to protect niskers. I’m hoping that he just had a really horrible year, and that things come together for him. My Name Daley has been around for a while and I think has reached his potential. He’s decent, but he won’t ever be fantastic.
totally agree
I voted burish……Daley should be left unprotected as he is not going to get any better.
Guys
I have the tech team looking into the brunnstrom votes. Probably a glitch or something.
by Brad Gardner on Aug 31, 2010 10:43 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
how so?
Sutherby is made of glass. Even when he is healthy he is injured. At least Brunnstrom has potential going forward.
Brunnstrom and Niskanen both have the same problem a lot if nights
And that is they shy away from contact. I don’t know if that’s something you can learn or grow into (in your mid twenties).
I really hope it is.
by Brad Gardner on Aug 31, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
in a real world scenario
i have a hard time believing that skrastins isnt the dman left unprotected. He makes more than he should for what he does and hes old so hes not part of the long term solution.
I was wondering that myself
This is all flawed of course, because if the Stars thought there WERE an expansion draft coming, they wouldn’t be leaving themselves with this conundrum.
If you had this exact group with a draft coming, you’d be kind of screwed. Lose Skrastins and you destabilize your pairings quite a bit, talking only about next year. As bad as the defense is, how much worse is it if you’re playing 2, 3, 5, 6, 28 and 44 on a regular basis…yuck.
So if I had to keep next season in mind, I think I’d have to keep Skrastins, knowing there’s no way at this point in the game to get any other veteran presence to put there in his place after you lose him.
And if Matt Niskanen is a part of the “long term” then we’re in trouble, unless he makes an unforeseen LARGE step next year.
Either he makes a large step or he's gone.
I’m wondering if he’ll be signed to a 1yr contract before camp starts. Otherwise he’ll just be useless trade bait next year.
i really disagree
I dont care if hes a veteran or not. Skrastins is not good now and wont be good in the future. I really dont think he’d even get taken in an expansion draft. Daley is clearly better than Skrastins already so choosing him would be foolish. Niskanen clearly has more upside and value so choosing him would be silly as well. Skrastins is the only realistic possibility.
Skaristins
Leads the team in SHTOI/G at 3:17.
Niskanen averaged 11 seconds a game on the PK last year.
I hate to turn into some kind of Skrastins homer, but geez he wasn’t that bad apart from that rough post-olympic few weeks he had. He was actually pretty good before the Olympics, or so most of us thought.
You’re right that he probably wouldn’t even get taken. I’m not sure how many players each expansion team is going to take…
by Brad Gardner on Aug 31, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
ok
so the guy was on the ice for alot of PKs on a pk unit that was terrible. This means he was on the ice for a ton of powerplay goals against. I dont see how thats a justification for thinking hes good.
I think Skrastins was bad before the olympics. He started off the season well but faded and was struggling before the olympics. He looked slow and was out of position way more often than a guy who relies on his positioning to be effective should be. After the olympics he dropped off a cliff and was dreadful.
I don't think I want to call anyone
On this defense “good.” They don’t deserve it.
I’m saying that Skrastins absence from the group next year would destabilize it A LOT (A LOT!!) more than the absence of Niskanen or Daley.
by Brad Gardner on Aug 31, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Fungible
Skrastins is a completely fungible D-man – players like him can be found all the time. You obviously protect Robidas, Grossman, Fistric, Daley and Nisky. For all Nisky’s troubles, he is still talented. You protect the talent over a fungible d-man.
Really?
Talented? You mean he’s still NOT talented. What a mess. He showed flashes as a rookie because he had the luxury of playing with Zubov. Last year, his true colors came through. He’s not ready for the NHL, but it’s too late now. I’d like to be proven wrong come October.
by Mike Russo on Aug 31, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
how quickly
we forget how good niskanen was to close out his 2nd season. He gave us real reason to expect a great season going forward. He was racking up a lot of points and playing adequate defense. Now all of a sudden people act as if hes never been good outside of being paired with Zubov.
It's all about the PK
I’d like to see Toby become more of a versatile player, but you can’t argue he is a very good checking forward with some signs that he can chip in offense…
At least that’s why I’d assume people would vote for him…
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by Art Middleton on Aug 31, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
And Toby's supposedly a big locker room guy.
And he’s a known quantity. Who knows how Burish is going to work out?
Neither.
I’d protect Petersen, and classify Burish as a defenseman and protect him that way.
I’m of the mind that Niskers will come around… he has to…he can’t just cease progressing… then I look at Daley and realize Nisk = Daley.
Niskanen
You have to think of what the GMs of the expansion teams want. They are far more likely to snatch up Niskanen than Daley just because of the age. As an expansion team, you have to start by looking towards the future. You either draft young or really experienced to give the young guys some stability.
I would put Daley out there and hope that the 2 GMs can come up with better options.
So when do we get
The contraction draft? You know, where the teams who can’t cut it in this league are forced to give up their players to everyone else?
Can we get Shea Weber with the 11th pick? :P
The group talked about that
And certain blog managers had some pretty understandable objections/were insulted. So…
by Brad Gardner on Aug 31, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
are all 30 teams covered by SBN?
If so, maybe we could choose 2 obviously fake ones, just to see what happened. Detroit & Toronto, or something.
Peterson
I voted for Peterson because he was the heart and soul of this team the last time we were in the playoffs. I seem to recall he was the only one who showed up to those first two games in Detriot. The guy hussles all over the place and, at least in my opinion, is versitile enough to play anywhere. You need guys like that (plenty of them, actually), and I know that I like what I’m getting with him. We just don’t know enough about how Burish will fit in or what Brunnstrum will actually do.
I would protect no defensive player
on this team after Robidas, Grossman, and Fistric. That way, management would be actually FORCED to find better replacements (if even possible).
I voted for Petersen
before I even read all the comments. To me, Barch, Burish, and Segal are fairly interchangeable parts and can usually be found with more ease in this league. I think you have to protect more of a skill guy like Petersen.
On D-men…I don’t protect Skrastins. We’re not winning the Cup next year (gasp!), so let’s throw the young guys to the wolves and see what happens. If you want a veteran presence around then call up Lukowich.
Toby.
He has his times when he gets a bunch of points and I just love him. I’d also love to see him on the PK. I’ve seen him block shots and he seems pretty responsible in his own end.
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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Aug 31, 2010 3:35 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Petersen
He’s the only player fast enough to forecheck with in NHL10. (Note to self: You can pass faster than you can skate.)
Go with the utes on defense.
Passing has been taken down a notch
In NHL 11. You can still pass faster than you can skate, but you have to hold the button down and many times you don’t have enough time to do that. Seems to be an overall better game from the demo.
And boy are those big hits a load of fun. Makes me pine for the good ol’ days of hockey.
Petersen without question
He gives his all every shift, every game.
That being said, if we could trade Ribeiro for a good defenseman, I’d protect Segal after that.
by Travis Drybread on Aug 31, 2010 7:45 PM CDT reply actions
AWESOME! Gotta love the Toby-love!
Solid all round player, night after night. Would love to see him get more time on the PK, as well.
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Petersen for sure
I love that everyone is spelling his name right, too! Awesome job Stars fans.
I hate it when some people spell his name Peterson (also hate it when people spell Morrow’s first name as Brendan)
Yeah, and how a link to Sutherby's stats on Heika's blog said "Brent Sutherby" instead of Brian.
For like a week.
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