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StarGazing: Modano Testing Patience Of Red Wings fans?

I'd like to apologize for the lack of content today. I'd also like to introduce you to the offseason. After the hectic, ownership-rumor-filled Saturday, well, there just hasn't been much Dallas Stars news to talk about. But that doesn't mean people aren't talking about them.

Take Mike Modano, for instance. We're a couple weeks into free agency, and Mike has yet to make his decision. As Stars fans, we're a bit biased and will give him the benefit of the doubt, but this waiting game has irked some Red Wings fans. The anger is either that Mike has gone "Hollywood" and is waiting out for attention, or that the Wings are stuck in limbo waiting for him....either way, the question in Detroit seems to be: What's taking so long?

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Chris Hollis of MotownWings.com thinks that Modano's ego is the issue:

If you follow Red Wings hockey, you know all the details about the Modano situation already. With Modano now backtracking on his "Detroit or retirement" statement - and, apparently, a deal in Detroit (bit premature, no?) - to consider alternate destinations, the Wings find themselves in a waiting game that is holding up the rest of their negotiations. Look, I love the idea of Modano in Detroit, but this is less about him considering his future at this point and more about getting his ego stroked after being dismissed from the only franchise he's ever played for. Taking time to determine his future his totally acceptable. Holding teams hostage as he looks to be wined and dined before making that decision is not.

Hmm....holding up negotiations, you say? Then how do you explain re-signing Derek Meech this week? Anyways, I'll let Chris McCosky voice a rebuttal to your opinion, Mr. Hollis...

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Chris Mcosky of the Detroit News sees the Modano situation differently:


It is not like that. Just because he didn't immediately fall all over himself to sign with the Wings doesn't mean he disrespected the organization. Just because he hasn't yet accepted the $1.25 million offer doesn't mean he feels slighted or he's holding out for more.

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He has every right to take as much time as he needs to sort this out. He's not hurting anybody by deliberating. He's not being a prima donna. He's not asking to be wined and dined and fussed over.


If anything, Modano is being refreshingly honest. He doesn't know if he wants to put himself through another season. He doesn't know if he wants to live apart from his wife for a full season. He doesn't want to make a commitment to the Red Wings or anybody else if he can't go all in, mind, body and soul.


He doesn't deserve to be scorned or maligned for that.

He's completely right about that, no disrespect to Mr. Hollis. Modano could be handling this in a completely different manner than he is. He could be demanding first-class treatment, could be leaking hints to the media about his decision, or could even be trying to put on a special on ESPN to announce his decision. Instead, he's resting and relaxing and taking time to make his decision. And the only things he's telling ESPN are simple "No, nothing new" texts to Pierre LeBrun and Scott Burnside. So patience, Detroit fans, and take off your tinfoil hats. Mike Modano is harmless.

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Mike Heika of the Dallas Morning News answered a question about the Stars RFAs, starting with James Neal:

In Neal's situation, I think the Stars will wait him out and let him miss training camp if they have to, because they have plenty of options at left wing. The Rangers did that with Brandon Dubinsky last season, and he agreed to a two-year bridge contract during training camp. Neal is working out hard this summer and seems to want to really come out fast next season, so my guess is the Stars believe he will want to be in training camp.

On Nicklas Grossman:

The Hjalmarsson offer sheet and subsequent contract (four years, $14 million) does give Grossman plenty of leverage. The Stars might just go through training camp and see if Philip Larsen or Severin Blindenbacher offer a different element to the blueline if negotiations get really cold, but I can't imagine this defense starting the season without Grossman if they really believe they have a chance to make the playoffs. All of that makes me believe the two sides will find middle ground.

So all in all, it sounds like the Stars are going to wait it out with the two. Remember that RFAs can remain unsigned until December 1st, so the Stars could literally just wait until the beginning of the season to sign them. It seems like both sides (for both players) are going to play a game of chicken through training camp. Good news for Stars fans: usually the players and agents give in first.

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Within that same piece, Heika offers up his take on what Matt Niskanen is up against this year:

In addition to Larsen knocking on the door, you have to believe that the Stars will be heavy into the trade market for a top-level defenseman once the sale of the team is complete, and that means a defenseman will have to go to make room for the new one (or two?). My guess is Niskanen tops the list of potential people to go right now. As such, Niskanen is on a bit of a hot seat. If he wants to prove himself to the team, he should probably come into training camp in great shape and be ready to compete for top minutes. As strange as it sounds after last season, he has a great opportunity to take big minutes here if he were to really up his game.

The Stars wanted him to grab the opportunity last season, and I believe that because of the budget, they will give him a great chance again this year. But there is a time limit to this chance, because I do believe new ownership will be in place and I do believe the defense will be changed before the end of next season.

The only question I have is: What exactly is Niskanen's trade value? It can't be much at the moment, so I'm betting the Stars are hoping he has a great start to the season so his value increases by the trade deadline. We all beat up on him, but the numbers indicate Niskanen isn't a total lost cause. Time will tell if last year was a fluke, but as Heika points out, he may not have much time.

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And finally, former Stars played in a celebrity golf tournament:

Brett Hull, Mike Modano and Jamie Langenbrunner all finished in the top-20 of the event. Langenbrunner finished as the best of the three, shooting a final score of 58 to finish in a three-way tie for eighth place. Hull, who scored the winning goal for the Stars in the 1999 championships, was right behind Langenbrunner in 11th place with 57 points. And finally, Modano, who was released from the Stars this summer, took 17th place with 47 points.

Looks like Brett needs to take Mike to Top Golf more often..

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And he’ll piss ’em off more if he signs there after showing up his typical one shift per game.

by Chad_ on Jul 19, 2010 4:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Since you asked...

Derek Meech’s signing wouldn’t have been held up by anything other than a court order, let alone Mike Modano’s thinking time. Meech is a 7th or 8th D-Man who filed for arbitration and then settled on the LEAGUE MINIMUM with the Wings. He’s likely getting shipped out of town and has no long term impact on the Wings cap.

No, the real issue is that the Wings are operating with just around $3 million and need to get RFA’s Justin Abdelkader and Darren Helm re-signed. It will happen sooner than later, but it sure would be nice to know if Modano was going to take that $1.25 million so the Wings could have a better grasp on how much wiggle room they have with their RFA’s.

Look, Modano can take the time he needs to make the right decision. Nobody is denying that. It’s surely a big decision and merits some time and thought. But when a player opens their mouth and says “Detroit or retirement” and then backtracks on that the moment some other suitors come calling, taking some flack from fans and bloggers is to be expected. I’m a fan. McCosky is a beat writer who has nary a rooting interest in anything the Wings do as long as it provides a good story for him. If Modano turns down the Wings, fans and bloggers will be angry or feel jilted or whatever, because that’s what happens when you emotionally invest in a team. McCosky will write some blather about being able to fit X players under the cap and finding a veteran 6th defenseman before moving on to the next story of interest. If that makes me the over-emotional and “irrational” side in the “point-counterpoint” in your article, then so be it. Comes with the territory, I suppose.

-Chris Hollis
motownwings.com

Find me on twitter @chollis

by motownchollis on Jul 19, 2010 5:10 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm not saying it isn't to be expected, and you do have a fair argument.

And I do respect your point, and I was merely trying to display the two sides of the argument. There are the fans’ opinion, and the media’s take….You are in the majority, though, it seems, as McCosky’s story was actually picked up by another site and criticized for being too hard on fans. Most fans seem to agree with you, and I completely understand that flak will be thrown his way. I think Stars fans though, biased as we are towards Modano, will see Modano’s side more clearly than the Wings’ side.

It’s frustrating as a Wings fan to wait on that $1.25 million hanging out there for Modano, yes, but you just gotta wait it out. Unfortunately, Modano holds all the cards at the moment. I don’t think it has to do with ego, though, I think it’s just a matter of him weighing his options. Either way, I know Stars fans want him to decide soon as well. It’s just another Stars story that keeps dragging out.

by Pat Iversen on Jul 19, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

My .02

As I take off my Modano jersey to try and look at this situation objectively.

On one hand, I don’t think any of potential suitors should be upset or surprised by the fact Modano hasn’t made up his mind yet. Since he skated off the ice in Minnesota in a North Stars jersey, he’s repeatedly said that, ultimately, his decision to come back next season will come down to how mentally ready he is to go through another grind.

Per that reasoning, you don’t make up your mind that quickly in July.

Now that having been said, Chris does make an excellent point on the backtracking of the “Detroit or retirement” talk the moment the Sharks and Wild entered the picture. I never thought Modano was the type of player who ever needed to be told how great he was every 5 seconds.

But he did have a tendency to go a little passive-aggressive in Dallas when things didn’t go his way. As such, I can see how some Red Wings might have been put off by the statement and subsequent backtracking.

Anyway, I’m sure if Modano does decide to play his final season in Detroit, all of this will be quickly forgotten.

by Brandon Bibb on Jul 19, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

One of the problems with blogs vs. in person

you lose the tonein the words, and things can sound harsh so easily… I’ve been guilty of it too more than once…

by Tsudbury on Jul 19, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

No apologies necessary.

We’re all big boys here. I totally saw where you were coming from and just thought I’d add a little more perspective. I actually wrote my piece before McCosky wrote his, so this is the first time I’ve really voiced my opinion on what he wrote.

At any rate, there’s definitely no need for apologies. This is the equivalent to us sitting around a bar, drinking beers and yelling loud and boisterous opinions about our favorite team and players really.

Perhaps we can all do that at some point, no? :)

-Chris Hollis
motownwings.com

Find me on twitter @chollis

by motownchollis on Jul 19, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

And now that I think about it

Remember all the consternation from Stars fans (myself included) as Jonas Gustavsson was making his decision last summer?

How spurned we felt because Joe Niewuendyk had to pass on some quality goaltenders in free agency while we all waited?

And how spurned we felt when he went to Toronto?

by Brandon Bibb on Jul 19, 2010 5:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Sounds more like a Wings ego trip to me.
“These veteran players, why would they be in a hurry? Why not see how your body feels?” Babcock said.

Babcock seems to understand. And, if anyone was going to be upset by the delay, it should be the coach. But he seems OK with it.

My read of the article is more that the MotownWings.com’s Chris Hollis has the elitist attitude. Are players supposed to drop to their knees and thank the heavens that the Red Wings made them an offer? The Red Wings are good, but give me a break, they’re still just another hockey team. And remember, to play for them you would have to live in the Detroit area…that’s the horror of playing there!

I don’t think the Wings season depends on getting Mo signed. It’s just another part of the puzzle. Mo has earned his right to take his time.

by Cowpokealong on Jul 19, 2010 6:52 PM CDT reply actions  

This might take some time.

Modano does what needs to be done.
It’s still odd to see news of Stars and Modano in different sentences, but I guess it will be like that always.

by Henri Muroke on Jul 20, 2010 7:53 AM CDT reply actions  

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