2010 NHL Free Agency Open Thread
by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 10:16 AM CDT
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PrintYou all know the deal... Stars have an ownership issue, very little money to spend, probably won't do anything in the first few days of the opening of NHL free agency... blah de blah...
Still, that won't stop us here at Defending Big D from keeping an eye on things. If any signings or trades do go down today and they affect the Stars, you can be sure we'll be all over it here! Feel free to leave your own comments and reactions here as well as the day progresses!
And as the token Canadaian on the DBD staff... Happy Canada Day!
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Football...
Fun fact: The CFL is also known as the league where even 8 Canadian teams pass on the idea of signing JaMarcus Russell…
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
And where not even Pac Man Jones can hold down a job
by Brandon Bibb on Jul 1, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I wish he woulda stuck with the Blue Bombers...
No way can he cover any of the receivers in the CFL… even if he could keep up with them, he’d be gassed by mid 2nd quarter because of the pass happy nature of the league.
It would have been fun to watch!
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I can't even figure out how
You made it display that.
by Brad Gardner on Jul 1, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
This is the place
Where I will sit and bitch about what the Ducks and the Kings are doing today.
Hooray!
by Brad Gardner on Jul 1, 2010 10:20 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Oh good, an open thread!
And I’m feeling particular snarky today.
Now if only work wouldn’t get in my way.
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It just occurred to me
That the new Futurama episode is probably going to be the best thing that happens today.
Screw free agency
We already jumped out in front with Severus Snapenbacher or whatever his name is. We win.
Blendenbacher is here to defend.
And sell you high-quality small kitchen appliances!
We're severin' the competition!
Ok, I’ll stop.
But if he makes the roster I will refer to him as The Blindenbacher 3000.
Just warning you all now.
Wait
So some guy named Blackendecker is joining Sevy on the radio side?
I’m so confused.
by Brandon Bibb on Jul 1, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Can't mention his name, he's known to google his own name.
Trust me, I know from experience….
But I will mention that he’s now a Colorado State sideline reporter.
Wait, you mean Blory Blolt won't be back this year? Wahoo!!!
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Meszaros to Philly for a second round pick
As being tweeted by a lot of people..
Uhhh.. Is it too early to start the “Ya know Stars coulda done that deal to help things out…” talk?
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Also saw some tweets on Biron to NYR.
So I’m assuming Alex Auld is back on the market. I’d love to have him back here in Dallas.
Wow
JJT just said something smart about hockey to Norm.
Weird.
Wait…then he ruined by suggesting Lehtinen should go too. Not sure about that one.
At what price though?
They don’t have a million for a backup, presumably.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to teach someone on the roster to be a backup and just stack the pads on scarecrow kind of thing on the bench every night to avoid paying another salary ;)
by Brad Gardner on Jul 1, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I can see it now.
Crawford: Fabian, you’re tending goal tonight.
Bruunstrom: What?
Morrow: Hope you’re wearing a cup, son.
Bruunstrom: You know, going back to Sweden isn’t sounding so bad now…
At least Phoenix might lose Michalek
That might lighten my mood a little…if he goes East.
Everyone go East! Get out of my conference. Let’s drag everyone down to our level.
There's a rumor out there that Detroit
Is going to offer Modano a one-year, low priced contract.
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Hey! I have an idea!
Since according to a certain DBD commenter, MAF is only a pedestrian goalie, I bet we could pick him up for a song.
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A bunch of TSN tweets..
Wow…
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I think everyone needs to stop and realize
That hockey players don’t view other franchises like fans do. To the players Detroit is a class-A franchise where you can have a chance at a long playoff run every single year. It’s hard to think about but it’s the reality.
Wow. Bettman on NHL Live.
First thing he says is questioning the validity of the media’s reports on Gonchar. “Now is that a fact, or just a rumor?”
Douche.
Well
At least he didn’t say ’Damnit… stupid Canadian teams signing good players!!"
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Surprised he didn't start off with a big "Happy Canada Day!". Moron.
PS – wtf is Canada day? No offense to the northerners in here. Is that like your 4th of July?
"Biggest mistake in DFW history?" - Bigger mistake in LSB history.
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Flames Sign Tanguay
Per a bunch of Sportsnet tweets..
This would have been a big deal had this been done five years ago.
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So Gonchar was able to negotiate a deal in 18 minutes?
Are there any no tampering laws in the NHL or what?
Yes.
That’s the way it happens. He was talking to Pittsburgh right up until the deadline.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know...
Seems kind of reasonable that a deal could be done in 18 minutes..
We know what the Pens wanted to sign him for, we know what Gonch wanted from the. All Murray had to do is say, “we’ll give you 500 K more and the years you want..”
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
So all Gonchar had to do
Was turn up the battery in his hearing aid and they were good to go
by Brad Gardner on Jul 1, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
If Gonchar is getting $5.5 million per season...
Be thankful the Stars don’t have any money this year.
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I disagree
Everybody talks about how much they love Mark Cuban and Jerry Jones for doing “whatever it takes to win” including overspend. I miss being in that position and can’t wait til this thing gets sold.
Well, I think what BW is saying is that Gonchar is overrated.
I’d love to be able to spend and overspend too, but not for that money for Gonchar.
yeah... If everyone is overspending on players this FA
that might turn out to be a big plus for us come trade deadline or next July 1st
There's ways around the cap limits on those teams though...
Or the cap is big enough, it’s not really a problem to amass every star player you can. It’s more difficult in the NHL right now.
This is nuts, actually.
Lots of early action.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope we make a really nice trade today
or sign another guy with an interesting name.
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 11:57 AM CDT reply actions
just don't be disappointed ifthey dont...
now that we’ve officially let modano go, we’re not that jammed up at center. They’ll trade him only as long as they get something very good in exchange
maybe this was their plan all along
let mike get some deals tossed at him early in free agency, then swoop in and match the best one and re-sign him.
and then trade ribs.
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
If they're planning on trading Ribs so they can afford a top UFA defenseman, they'd better hurry up.
The D-men are going fast.
That was last weeks plan
This weeks plan involves the fetal position and a bottle of whiskey. (Cheap whiskey, though. Gotta save.)
by Brad Gardner on Jul 1, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
St. Louis re-upps with the Bolts
4 year extension.. He’ll retire a Lightning it looks like.
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Anyone know how much control does Hicks have over what Nieuwendyk does?
I mean…with the Modano being let go thing and the internal budget, is Hicks sitting on his shoulder monitoring it all? With him selling the team in the next few months (hopefully), why is there a restriction?
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 12:06 PM CDT reply actions
Until the deal is done
It’s Tom Hicks’ team and Tom Hicks’ rules. (budget) Unfortunately.
Besides, you can’t exactly go writing big checks out for money that you don’t have yet while potential buyers are essentially looking at you through the store window.
by Brad Gardner on Jul 1, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
That would piss them off
And it’s a good way to get yourself fired when the new owner does show up.
Some of this “navigating through financial difficulty” is Nieuwy interviewing for his own job, or at least trying not to piss the new guy off, whoever he might be.
by Brad Gardner on Jul 1, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Can you imagine...
“Hey boss….I uhh…I spent all of your money already. I hope that’s ok?”
by Brad Gardner on Jul 1, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice!
Stay east.. wayyyyy east!
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
5 years.. 20 mil
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
guess we're stuck shopping at the blindenbacher bargain bin
barring an unforeseen trade of our limited tradeable assets (ribeiro, neal’s rights).
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 12:12 PM CDT reply actions
in a stunning free agent move the Dallas Stars sign Sergei Zubov!
wouldn’t that be a great fix to this Modano PR nightmare
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 12:13 PM CDT reply actions
he'd come cheap
and be still be better than half of what we’ve got already.
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Steve Yzerman being praised already as a great GM....
Even he has more operating room than Nieuwendyk.
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Kings are in on the Paul Martin sweepstakes.
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Nope.
They have plenty of cap room.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know much about Paul Martin
But the pedigree of anyone who has spend that much time with the Devils….that’s a nice thing to have.
He missed a lot of this season with a broken arm, I believe.
But is about as solid as they come. Would love someone like him on our blue line. Sniff.
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Really? That’s the best they can do?
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
$4 million, 2 years
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
$4 million, 2 years
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
With some of these deals..
I am more and more into the camp of ‘Maybe it’s a good thing the Stars can’t overpay for anyone…"
3 mil a year for Colby Armstrong?!
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Sean O'Donnell to Flyers
Pain in the ass to the Stars for the last few years.. he too is now out east.
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I can't believe Armstrong got $3million a year.
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Brian Burke ladies and gentlemen...
It irks me he’s such an overrated GM and has a ring…
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Steve Ott is a fucking STEAL, compared to that contract.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
God I wish they would sell this damn team already! Looks like another medicor year ahead….Hey, maybe that Russian Billionaire could buy the team….lol
Who would you suggest they sign?
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm just saying....
It’s not like having a bunch of money in FA this year would have made a big difference. Other than overspending.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Manny Malhotra..
Off to Vancouver…
So now he’ll be really overrated.
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Wow....
For 2.5 million per with a full NTC.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
He made $700,000 last season.
Seriously….wtf.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Now TSN speculates that that might squeeze Kyle Wellwood out..
I didn’t think anything was big enough to squeeze him out.
#KyleWellwoodIsFat
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
So.. Do I dare leave my desk for an hour for lunch?
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Honestly, I think the stars are winning the race
just by staying still right now. No one has made any big improvements to their team, and they’re all pyaing big bucks for whoever they can sign…
Mike Modano not close to signing anywhere right now.
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Not to mention Colby Armstrong going for 3 mil
If you’re Modano, how do you take any less than 3 yourself?
Is any team going to want to spend that?
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Derek Morris:
2.75 million a year for four years to Coyotes
An ok deal I suppose… They’ll probably trade him next year anyway
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The deck is shuffled, but the cards aren't stacked...
I’m starting to think with these overpriced contracts, we might get a great deal for ribs if we trade him…
Dan Ellis supposedly signs with Tampa Bay...
So….where the hell does Marty Turco and Nabokov go?
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they'll have to lower their prices considerably.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm getting slammed on Twitter for suggesting that Malhotra isn't worth $2.5 milion per year.
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Like I said..
He is very overrated.
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I see Marty in teal...
Seeing as how he owns the Shark Tank. Nabby I could still see Philly signing him, but BW you got all the insiders, what see you?
Sorry, can't type because of a wrist splint.
Wouldn’t San Jose be out if they already signed Nittymaki and have Greiss still as backup?
Not with Nittymaki signing with San Jose.
He’s not going there now.
Philadelphia is going after Chris Mason.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
If this is the case
Could it be that Nabby and Marty don’t get signed at all? That would blow my freakin mind.
Nittymaki is going to be the starter for the Sharks next season.
That’s who Doug Wilson has wanted all along.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
At least I won't have to run through those
“Nabokov has won 8 of his last 9 starts in Dallas with a GAA over .000000345 and blah blah blah” stats next season.
Because after the WCF
You can’t win in the West without a Fin in the net.
Hey, that almost rhymes. :o)
AHHH HA HA...
Nieuwendyk looks like a genius now.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't type..
Cant….stop…..laughing….
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Apparently Ribeiro rumors are floating around out there...per one tweet I just read.
Ribs is just among many though.
Dunno. The actual tweet was just this:
Trade talks still circling… Savard, Ribeiro, Kostitsyn, Souray, Thomas, Olesz, all out there
So what about Turco?
What if we signed him as our backup for 1.5 or 2 mil? Assuming that Philly signs Nabokov, that would leave only back up spots for turco, right?
What did we say?
Wait and see! But NNOOooOOOOoooo…. you guys wanted to fire Joe right away…
I think I’m liking his signings with every deal done today…
As long as we send Ribeiro to the East
and get a solid defenseman, I won’t miss him too much. Be nice to get rid of that cap hit.
definitely.
we may even have enough money to bring modano back and bring smiles to the faces of dallas
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
well i can't imagine them brushing him aside with use of all the cap space.
I know there’s a glut at center and Mo wants good linemates and more minutes, but in losing Ribeiro, bringing Mo back wouldn’t be that farfetched.
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
To Do List for GM-
Sign ONE of the following, as cap friendly as possible:
Anton Volchenkov (2009-10 Cap Hit: $2.5 million)
Dan Hamhuis (2009-10 Cap Hit: $2 million)
Zbynek Michalek (2009-10 Cap Hit: $1.25 million)
Willie Mitchell (2009-10 Cap Hit: $3.5 million)
Kim Johnsson (2009-10 Cap Hit: $4.85 million, but should be way less in a new contract!)
No excuses, just spend the money and pull the trigger or we the Stars will be running 3 for 1 deals on tickets after Christmas 2010! I love Ribs, but we are full of talent on Offense and painfully understaffed at the blue line…
Michalek has already been signed by Pittsburgh at $4M per (according to TSN - $20M for 5 years.)
And that don’t look so cap friendly to me.
And the problem is...
If the CHEAPEST one on your list went for $4 per, imagine what the others are looking for now…
No excuses?
How about an absolute restriction on payroll?
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Ouch Michalek was way over paid.
Sorry, I just got on the thread and haven’t seen any of the news yet so I am playing catch up. OK, we still have 4 viable options, although only if Johnsson is willing to accept Ranger tickets in leiu of actual “money” in the contract…
Derek Boogaard just signed with NY Rangers
For $1.65 million per season.
Anyone still pissed at Nieuwendyk now?
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I will say this....
Barch could have walked, and made better money on the open market.
I’m still not happy the Stars kept him for that price, not when they signed Wathier anyways.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
So now the Rangers drafted Derek Boogaard 2.0
And now they have the original.
- slow clap *
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Because of how bad the market is this year.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
certainly doesn't help our cause any.
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually I rather think it does...
If the awful FAs are going for so much, that makes the trade value of Ribs that much higher… this could turn out to be great for us…
i see what you did there...
hopefully they move him. i’ve been waiting to see his name drop since the draft!
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
I have yet to see what everyone else does in him.
He’s not that good.
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
*RING RING*
Joe: Hello, Brian? This is Joe…
Brian: Hey Joe, what can I do for you?
Joe: How do you feel about Kaberle?
Brian: Sucks. How do you feel about Niskanen?
Joe: Sucks worse. Wanna Trade?
Brian: Sure!
I wouldn't get your hopes up
There just isn’t value out there. They’re not going to trade him in a salary dump like deal…they’d only trade him for the end game…a defenseman. It’s a very specific situations that would need to involve a team willing to lose a GOOD player in exchange for a center who makes 5 million.
It’s a very, very, very long shot.
Derek Boogaard: four years....$1.65 million per season.
AHHH HA HA HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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we should trade Ribs to NYR
who knows what we might get?
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok that's it...
All of the NHL GMs have gone insane!!
I was just about to say how nice a deal that was for the Ducks.. but at 3 million a year?!?
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if our perception of reality is just so far out of whack
Because we live in a world where contracts need to add up to 45 million, not 59.4
nope. They’re crazy.
By the way.....
The guys at The Fourth Period are just about as dialed in as the TSN and ESPN guys. So don’t dismiss what they’re putting out there.
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Ah, okay. I guess I had just never heard of them.
Then I guess we can believe that Ribs is at least being talked about.
Unlike games...
Our eyes don’t need to be set on the TV..
That’s how I explain all the comments. Plus this stuff with making fun of other teams for overspending is just so damn fun.
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Wonder what the chance of Turco taking a back up role in Dallas would be?
Because his starting options are just about dried up.
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Would he be willing to stay as a backup for $1.5 for 2 years?
And would the stars be able to afford a backup for that much?
Who knows..
Stars need a backup.
And don’t say Brent Krahn…he’s yet to stay healthy for a full season.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you, Brandon.
I get so tired of people mentioning him as a possible backup behind Kari. A goalie made of glass paired with a goalie made of crystal (and not the lead kind). What a combo.
Lehtonen is much better off than Krahn, health wise...
Two of his injuries were caused by collisions.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
His pride
is more of an issue than his real estate situation.
You know he wouldn’t come back here after everything that has happened, and I don’t blame him for that.
Ray Whitney to Phoenix
2 years, $3million per season
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38 years old
But he can still put the puck in the net. Interesting, but I’m not all that concerned about it. Call me after a few PHX DAL games and maybe I’ll have changed my mind.
It's a good deal for Phoenix.
Considering the other contracts flying out are.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it possible that the Stars are in better shape than we imagined
If we’re not upset by any of these signings? (Except for Michalek?)
Both
kinda wish the Stars would be able to get what they need.. But at the same time there really isn’t a contract where I’ve thought “yeah that’s a pretty solid deal.”
The Ellis and Whitney deals may be the only ones I like.
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like the Canucks are the favorites for Dan Hamhuis.
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We still have a chance for a swap...
Johnsson is in the dog house in Hawks country, and they could always use Ribs as a weapon. Salary could adjust down a tad, but I think that is possible..
So not happy with Nieuwendyk?
At least we don’t have to deal with Sutter or Sather..
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Pitt lets Gonchar go but sign Martin?
Is this to be read as a net gain on the salary cap, but accepting a lesser blue line? I don’t think I get it. Love Gonchar, but we would have needed 3-4 extra million even to play. This does seem like the year of penthouse salaries for so-so talent. I am STILL laughing at the NTC and 2.5/yr for Malhotra. What are those nucks thinking… The Wild have money, you could use an unorthodox trick man like Ribs!!! any bites? nibbles Turco is still out there, that is a shocker, Philly looked like the right fit.
Gonchar wanted more than two years...
Pittsburgh didn’t want to give that much to him.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Would we? Or could we?
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe...
That’s a TON of money to give up for an older defenseman with injury problems, no matter what his point total may be.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
That Barch contract IS starting to look...
Like the steal of the offseason for us. Although, the rate is high for some, look at what some of these guys are signing for and tell me that we could replace him for anything even close to 800k!
Hard to call something a steal
When the player is mostly a non-entity.
by Giant Space Ants on Jul 1, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
When weighed against the other non entities signed today
It is a freaking steal.
It’s not a great signing, but it’s still a bargain compare to shelly and boogaard. A laughable one at that.
Thats a pretty solid deal..
I like that for the Oilers.
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Foster was the most valuable defenseman last season...
According to CapGeek.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Dallas Stars officially announce the signing of Severin Snape.
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Admin, it's time that becomes our new tag for at least the day...
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Don't make The Blindenbacher 3000 make girly drinks.
You wouldn’t want to make him angry, would you? No, you don’t want to see The Blindenbacher 3000 angry.
Maybe he'll come up to us and say
“Come with me if you want to live” (long enough to make it to the playoffs)
I just hope he constantly refers to himself in third person.
That would seriously make my season.
"Yeah, you know, The Blindenbacher just wasn't consistent tonight, and he needs to get to da choppah and work on his skating."
You know, I hope Razor takes full advantage of this.
LOL, in reality not just saying that.
Now we need to sign someone from the waivers that has a food or alcohol name to add to the quotes. Vodka-leski combined with the Blindenbacher 3000 will make a screwdriver out of the competition… oh my God…
He's going to be at the development camp.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Did I mention how much I love Development Camp???
Going to be there Monday. Yeah!
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Here's the new tagline for DBD:
At least we don’t have Glen Sather and Darryl Sutter as our GM.
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+1
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Dan Hamhuis signs with Vancouver.
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6 years, I think.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
ouch.. D crop is thinning faster than a ripe tomato in the Blindenbacher 3000
now if we could only get Vodkasky from the KHL…
Volchenkov to the Devils..
Tweeted by a few people..
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Chris Mason signs with Atlanta....
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from?
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Volchenkov 6 yrs/25M to Devils
We didn’t have that kind of money to play with anyway. Any chance we can get sold before the trade deadline? ugh, curse you owner-who-shall-not-be-named… Maybe if you had spent some of your Saints winnings on the Stars and Rangers we wouldn’t be so cash strapped every off season… aarrrgghhh….
Now that would have been nice to get in on.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Mitchell is pretty great and has actually been here in the semi-past, so maybe we can get him...
and Kim Johnsson is still out there… oh this is almost as frustrating as watching Niskanen play d-line for us and turnover machine for the other team… grrr
Don't worry about Neal.
Wow, you guys are freaking out about him.
You know how rare it is for teams to sign RFAs?
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok...here's what I'm hearing on Modano...
He’s not going to Detroit….they don’t have the cap space to give him the deal he’d want.
He’s more likely to head West, although as of right now he isn’t anywhere close to signing with another team.
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I can just imagine the marketing for tickets....
“Come see Ilya Kovalchuk with the Kings, and Mike Modno with the Sharks…”
yup
what about Mo to LA. i know they don’t need a center, but his celebrity wife, it’s possible. maybe?
The Ducks could use him more than the Kings, me thinks.
Not sure if they want to, but just comparing depth charts at center…
Andrew Ladd traded to Atlanta.....
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I don't remember him being that amazing with us, I don't get that one.
2nd round pick is good, but Ivan was our pick and he didn’t impress me as a leading Dman
I've always thought the Lehtonen trade was a steal.
Vish had reached his ceiling in the AHL. He was overrated in my book.
Neal is great, deserves a bigger contract...
I am a little shocked that we will be without Jere, Mo and Turco next year. Wow, that just dawned on my that we don’t have an Selke minded wingers out there in FA either. hmmm
Vishnevskiy is no longer a Thrasher. He’s a Hawk now! I think I just did a happy dance…
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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Jul 1, 2010 3:47 PM CDT reply actions
Ivan Vishnevskiy traded to Chicago for Andrew Ladd.
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That’s all we have to remember him by…
I always liked his curly hair, though. I remember that, too.
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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Jul 1, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe Zubov is tired of the KHL and would come back...
I hear St. Petersberg is way colder in the winter than BigD…
We let Mo go because we have too many centers. However, there’s ALWAYS room for Zubov here. You just can’t replace a guy like Zubie, even at his age.
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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Jul 1, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
It would be a swell PR move.
And it would improve the defense
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
tough to sign Zubov...
He signed a 2-year contract in the KHL>
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
The Los Angeles Kings are about to sign Kovalchuk.
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Everything goes in cycles...
And now the Kings are a power.
If the Stars want to make the playoffs, they’ll have to once again fight a division that could put as many as 4 teams in.
He's already signed.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
probably gonna be the latter
yet i haven’t stopped looking around the internet for easily 2 hours now.
From David Shoalts:
Managed to snap a photo of Brent Sutter as he heard about Jokinen:
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Because Darryl Sutter is freakig insane.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
He took a big discount.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Johan Hedberg to New Jersey.
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How freaking weird would that be?
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Not weird. Just awkward. It’s like divorcing and remarrying Turco.
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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Jul 1, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm outta here
glad we didn’t over spend on barch, albeit i wish he wasn’t resigned. could have been worse.
maybe sather will take ribeiro and give us del zotto and giradi or staal. maybe throw it callahan for free as well.
here’s to hoping Mo ends up somewhere not painful for us.
that would be a nice deal
and with the way they’ve been dealing today…it could happen.
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
That would be near perfect.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Sabres sign Jordan Leopold to three-year contract.
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Olli Jokinen is trending worldwide...
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Sather: I’m more bat-shit crazy!
Sutter: No I am!
You’re both morons.
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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Jul 1, 2010 4:30 PM CDT reply actions
Good thing the day is finally over...
cuz this thread is starting to laaaaaggggg my computer big time.
I guess this is what 400 comments feels like… it’s nice :)
It appears that the Wings are, in fact, very interested in Modano...
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/stars/post/_/id/2211/wings-among-teams-interested-in-modano
If he goes anywhere, I bet it will be there. We hate the wings for a reason… they’re consistently successful. It may be one of the best shots at him to make a deep playoff run…
Doesn't mean he's interested.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Not as likely as it seems...
http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2010/07/kulfan_mike_modano_to_red_wing.html
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe we should have a charity drive..
Id be willing to stand on a curb with a tin can to collect money for the Defense fund!
Only one out there I wanted was Volchenkov.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
And for what he got signed to..
I’m glad that wasn’t a deal done with Dallas. He’s a great shot blocker and good shut down guy… but not worth a six season deal.
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
yea that's lenghty
volchenkov is nice and would immediately be our #1, but he’s not worth making that long of a commitment to
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by Jason Brynsvold on Jul 1, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Eklund:
Adam Burish to Dallas.
What?
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ESPN Chicago says it's done...
Hmmmm…
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
i dont understand
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by Jason Brynsvold on Jul 1, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Neither do I really…
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by Art Middleton on Jul 1, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like it's official..
Adam Burish signs with Dallas.
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Well...
At least they did something.
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2 years, 1.15 million per season
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yikes
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by Jason Brynsvold on Jul 1, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Well...
I do agree with his Chris Pronger is an idiot stance…
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with the inflation of salaries today
this is probably not as bad as it seems
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
i cringed at brunnstrom
am i wrong for doing so?
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
yes youre wrong
the dude needs skill to play with and i think he and wandell will be really good together. maybe with segal on the other wing or sutherby? dont know how he fits here now
so how do you see the lines shaking up?
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions
if all is same
one 21-91-18
two 14-63-10 (debate here with 63)
three 96-23-24
four burrish-17-13
sutherby?
yeah, i would do this, if ribs was still here:
21-91-18
10-63-24
29-14-Burish
13-23-17.
i just don’t see sutherby anywhere in there. cept switching with barch.
you think benn is ready to step in full time at center?
isn’t ott a natural center anyways? Either way, I’m liking that 3rd line
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by Jason Brynsvold on Jul 1, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
i posted lower but
i would love to see benn play the off wing like Kane. would allow him to cross the middle more naturally and on his forehand which he loves to do already.
haha, of course
but i think benn is set to take another step up in his game, which will help the stars offense immensely, especially if he is on a 3rd line with wandell and ott, or something like that
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by Jason Brynsvold on Jul 1, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
agree.
29-23-14 would a dream for me on the third line. but i think the stars are really committed to this whole center thing. it’s a lot for a 20 year old to do.
ya and petersen can center line 4
sweet third line with ott wandell and benn.
or segal wandell and benn with otter up with morrow and ribs
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
our depth at forward is mighty
i wish we could get Mo back to play D and just rush the puck up like zubov. i think i’m gonna do that for my nhl 11 stars team regardless where he signs haha.
now we need to trade some of it
for some D
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
i don’t even know who i would want anymore.
i really wanted to draft forbort. i’m happy with campbell, but if we could trade ribs to phoenix, reunite him with tippett, get forbort, and like a 3rd rounder, i would do it.
that puts a lot of pressure on benn and wandell, and then makes this year a much greater rebuilding year than it is right now on paper.
pretty weak trade
but not sure we could get much more; basically trading ribs for a first and a third.
are there really any other options for getting a defenseman?
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
i mean in theory
shouldn’t we be able to trade a 5 a year ribs for a 5 a year D? but it doesn’t work like that. a great defensemen is valued more. not a lot of teams need centers.
i still like ribeiro on this team. i like the change of pace he brings to the team. we have 2 up tempo lines, a forecheck line, and his, it keeps the other team from becoming comfortable (in theory).
with that said, i really don’t know what you do.
Except..
We wouldn’t see Forbort for about 3 years.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
but at some point this team needs to decide if it’s rebuilding completely or a make-shift of this new ideology that crawford and joe are trying to implement.
and if they are, then ribs doesn’t fit. we all know that.
we know they want to get younger and faster; that’s not ribs.
and they want to get cheaper. so signing someone won’t help. trading won’t help. it’s rely on the young guys now to finish their development are start plucking from the well again; and we have basically no sure thing in our D well. not saying forbort will be a sure thing, but he seems worth the risk to me.
either way, ribs pretty much has to go. and he’s one of my favorite players. maybe not now. maybe not even til july 1, 2011. but we have glennie come up and a roster chalk full of forwards and no one to stop the other guys. we have to start planning more for the future, which i know we did in the draft, but IMO, none of the guys that we drafted are in the caliber of forbort.
There just isn't much incentive for Nieuwendyk to rebuild.
It’ll probably cost him his job, epecially with a new owner coming up.
by Giant Space Ants on Jul 1, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
and i don't think we necessary are that far off
i mean, the offense is there. and it’s potent. but i don’t know if it’s potent enough to supplement the faults of the defense; not saying anything new, but something has to change for the team to improve.
ill continue later
go work. here’s to the aforementioned ribs to NYR trade i posted way earlier (for del zotto, giradi or staal, and callahan; i dream big haha)
that's why i was asking
i kept trying to put a line combo together and we’ve got a glut at forward in general
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
that isn't too shabby, honestly
especially if wandell can take the next step
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by Jason Brynsvold on Jul 1, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed
we’ve got a great set of forwards.
which is why ribeiro is easily expendable.
even ott could center the third line. that’s his natural position anyway isn’t it?
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah but
wandell has way more upside as a center, thats why i think they have to trade or are planning on trading more than one forward
ya. i forgot about him.
but ya. definitely have to be setting up a trade.
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
A little OT: Is Segal under contract for next season?
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He can't do anything..
As an RFA it’s out of his hands.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually like the Burish signing.
It’s tough to say that at $1 million per season…….but he’s going to add that level of intensity and toughness that was missing last year.
I hope.
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He can choose not to agree to a contract with Dallas, sure.
But the Stars can also match any RFA offer that’s out there.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
well that's what i was saying
if he waits, the stars will end up having to pony up more cash and he’ll get more money.
by Travis Drybread on Jul 1, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe...
See what happened to Chris Mason though? He held off on a big contract, then ended up making half as much in Atlanta.
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by Brandon Worley on Jul 1, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
if he gets offered over 3 a year
and dallas doesn’t match, that team would have to give us a 1st and a 3rd, plus the money to sign him.
Burish - Barch
What a terrible deal extending Barch. If you want Burish fine, no reason to have Barch. Joe just wasted about 1/3rd of the available money on a fourth line winger. Genius….
Official Stars twitter says Raycroft as well..
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DallasStars twitter says we signed G Andrew Raycroft to a 2-year deal
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Not bad.
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yep, not bad for a backup
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by Jason Brynsvold on Jul 1, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Not really.
Turco’s had a couple of off years, but he’s never really had as low a save% as Raycroft has had since the lockout.
by Giant Space Ants on Jul 1, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah but
He only got his GAA under 3 in one of the 3 seasons after the lockout. And his save percentage was only over .900 in one of the previous seasons as well but luckily it was the most recent season with Vancouver.
i still like it
he played on a really bad colorado team one of those years, and he’s a guy who works very hard.
interesting to see how he’ll do with our D.
No don't get me wrong
I like it on paper as Kari makes me very nervous. A solid back up that can play starter minutes…Tommy likey
curious what he's getting paid
but yeah, i agree, better than climie or krahn. i think in need to change my photo now as there is absolutely no chance turco resigns (although there really wasn’t any to begin with).
I'm more partial to Save-percentage than GAA.
If only because GAA seems like a statistic more relative to the team than the player. I think Raycroft will be alright as a backup; better than any other apparent options- but .879, .894, .876, .892, and .911 the last five years makes me less confident if we have to rely on him for much more than that. Though I’m hardly a Andrew Raycroft expert.
by Giant Space Ants on Jul 1, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
it's definitely more important.
i played goalie my entire ice career and cared about two things: shots against and save percentage; wins obviously over both.
i just remember watching raycroft as a rookie in boston beating montreal and thinking this kid would be great. then the lock out happened and he lost a step. i went to the same goalie came he did pre-lock out, and then after his game changed. but in this past season i thought he started to look more like his old form.
he was prone to a lot of mental mistakes post lock out that went away last year. that’s why i think he’ll be more reliable than his stats indicate. kind of like auld was for the most part.
Good to know then.
Looking at his numbers, one does have to wonder what happened to him.
If he ends up like Auld, that’s fine. Auld was a good guy to have as a backup- once the Stars started to try to push him as the starter, he struggled.
by Giant Space Ants on Jul 1, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok... Raycroft I'm cool with
Maybe the Stars are going with a 1A / 1B type deal? raycroft can be good for stretches…
But still not sure with Burish.
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like agvdstars said, i think its kind of a backup plan if lehtonen gets hurt
since he has proven he can carry the load for extended stretches.
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by Jason Brynsvold on Jul 1, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Raycroft is alright.
Not a bad guy to have fill in occasionally. Let’s just hope we don’t need to rely on him for much more than that- he’s been pretty below-average post-lockout as the main guy. But as a backup, and with our finances- it’s alright.
Don’t get the Burish one though.
by Giant Space Ants on Jul 1, 2010 5:42 PM CDT reply actions
Yea post lockout he had a good year for Toronto, where he started 71 games and almost got them in the playoffs, then after that he has played for terrible teams until this past season when he was on Vancouver. And didn’t he get traded from Boston for Tuukka Rask?
I'm not so sure.
.894 Save percentage, 2.99 GAA: Not really a good year. He was traded for Rask and did win the Calder, yes, but I don’t see how it’s relevant to his value now. He’s a good backup now- nothing more.
by Giant Space Ants on Jul 1, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey guys...
There’s no rush to sign James Neal and Grossman as humanly early as possible.
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It's not like they're UFAs....
people keep acting like they are. A lot of players are RFAs for most of the season before they reach a new deal…
With the signing of Barch and Burish, I gotta think Sutherby is on his way out.
Kinda looked like Crow never really liked Sudsy.
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Bah....
I’d much prefer Burish over Barch…..just don’t like that contract for Barch at al.
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souray is on waivers
our budget still sucks.
just an update. they won’t move on studly wonderbomb at his price.
by Travis Drybread on Jul 2, 2010 11:50 AM CDT reply actions
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