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Mike Modano's Potential Departure Causing Discord Amongst Stars Faithful

Mike Modano has been pretty quiet far this off-season. His statements have been innocuous, his appearances around town and on television light hearted and pretty non-substantive. He has said all along that he'd like to see "how the ownership situation works out." He'd like to see "what kind of role he might have with the team next year." He's not sure if he wants to deal with the grind of another 82 games + (hopefully) playoffs + training camp and preseason. Those are all fair points.

So why today? Why during a week when trades are heating up, 10 days before free agency starts, when the draft is heavy on everyone's mind does Mike Modano take the opportunity to "put it out there" that if he plays next season, it's likely not going to be in Dallas? Why not just wait the extra two weeks and see how things shake out like he suggested he would? Why go as far as to put a number on it (75% sure he wants to play next season) this afternoon?

I put on my tin foil hat this afternoon and it occurred to me that this seems a little too calculated for our easy going hockey hero. Either the situation is what it is: The Stars just don't have room or dollars for him (they don't) and he's made up his mind that he wants to play (that's becoming quite clear) OR he is attempting to influence a situation with Joe Nieuwendyk that is outside of his control at this point. "How badly do you not want me in another uniform?"

What do you think?

Either this is "I'm going to be available, league, so maybe factor that in this week when you're talking amongst yourselves," or its a game of chicken with the Dallas Stars who will come out of this looking like a big steaming pile of camel dung to the season ticket holders if they let Mike Modano wear another uniform. That may not be fair, but being a sports fan is an emotional proposition.

Even though the idea of him leaving rips my heart out, I think we all need to take a deep breath...

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Our poll here earlier today indicated that most of you would rather see the Stars take care of Mike simply because he's Mike.

You don't have to go too far off the reservation to see the negative feelings about this...

From the Dallas Morning News blog comments:

All of the respect I have for Nieuwy will evaporate overnight if he lets the face of our franchise go to another team.

Joe could easily set himself up as the Dallas hockey fans' most hated personality if he lets Mike walk away

From TSN:

One of the most respectable guys in the sport. I don't really understand why Dallas pushed him out the door after all that he's done for their franchise.

I'd quote you all, but you're just too reasonable, classy and fair minded.

Nevertheless, these sentiments would grow and discord would fester in an already unsettled fan-base at a time it can ill afford it. Joe's going to do what he feels gives the team their best chance to win hockey games, of course, but this would be a little black eye that we who are so connected to the team wouldn't like to be any part of. The thought of Mike coming to the AAC several times next year in another uniform is one that makes me physically ill.

I discussed this question a bit after the season was over, you might recall. Would the Stars Actually Prefer that Modano Retire?

What about the other side of the coin?

Are you a better hockey team next season without Mike Modano than with him? Joe has to consider the possibility. Pending off-season departures (I think we all feel certain the potential for Center movement involves departures, not arrivals) it's a hard question to answer, but think it through with only the players currently on the team. Is Jamie Benn ready to lead an attack and balance the offense as a third line center? Is the difference between Modano as a 4th line guy and Sutherby as a 4th line guy so small that you'd rather just save the money?

What about special teams? 10 power play points, sure, but 13 total minutes on the penalty kill all season long. Seriously. He went from 2 minutes per game on the PK in 2008-2009, to an average of 13 seconds a game in 2009-2010. So they won't miss him there.

When you combine that with the six other guys on the team that can play center and the omnipresent budgetary considerations making money to sign 40 year olds scarce, it's easy to see that this is a much tougher decision than "Well, we can't let him go because it's him." There's the developments of Jamie Benn and Tom Wandell to consider as well. Do you move pieces and affect the long term viability of the center position for the sake of one-season? Should Mike be the one to compromise and play the wing in a (much) lesser role?

Puck Daddy takes an alternate approach, beseeching mighty Mo himself to make it easy on the team, himself and the fans and just hang them up:

It's hard to imagine a more moving sendoff than the one Dallas fans gave Modano, and a more Hollywood ending than the one he gave Dallas fans. The North Stars jersey skate and salute was the perfect coda. Modano could easily be a productive depth player next season while wearing another city's colors. But the fan in us doesn't want to see the next Brett Hull-as-a-Coyote. We want to see Yzerman retiring with the Red Wings.

That would be ideal, but as Mr. Wysh says, Mike still "has the fire."

Do you remember Joe Montana in a Chefs uniform?

Do you think of the Red Wings jersey when you remember Derian Hatcher?

I don't.

It won't be the end of the world. It will feel like the end of the world, but when the dust settles and Mike Modano is retired in Dallas, involved with the team again in some form or fashion, it won't matter. He can come home again, and wherever he may go, we'll know he's really our guy. Not theirs. And we'll remind whoever it is about it like petulant little children. Frequently.

This is an emotional issue, but the unfortunate circumstances warrant a moment of consideration before we go blasting the team for this and that. It might be time to simply move on. At least consider it, however briefly.

And if it makes you feel any better, there's always the usual: Point a finger at Hicks' way just for good measure.

Alternate reading: Pro Hockey Talk, DMN on Modano, ESPN's original report, Mike on ESPN 103.3 today at Andrews, TSN Modano Report

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by Art Middleton on Jun 21, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn Straight

Well said Brandon. Your points echo my sentiments exactly with what I’ve been thinking since this whole thing started.

Guess that’s why NBC snatched you up, lol. :P

by JCWM2 on Jun 21, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry for the typos.

I was a bit worked up.

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by Brandon Worley on Jun 21, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

That. Was. AWESOME!!!

BW’s post that is.

And BTW, those comments that Mo is a disgrace for hinting he’s coming back are just as idiotic.

This sport is a business. And if Mo feels like he still has something left in him to give it another go, more power to him.

IF he decides to play one more year, I’ll support him no matter what crest he’s wearing. Even if it is the Red Wings. I’ll just suck it up, hope he scores a goal in every game, but that the Red Wings go 0-82. :)

by Brandon Bibb on Jun 21, 2010 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

seriously

that’s all there is to say. 10 years ago is more than 10 years ago. let’s move on and rebuild and develop our young guys.

by agvdstars on Jun 22, 2010 3:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

i love you brandon

Proud fan of the #1 college hockey team in the nation - Miami University Redhawks - The Brotherhood. RIP Brendan Burke.

by Happy Girl on Jun 22, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do must fans remember Montana played with the Chiefs?

Probably not. I may, but only because I have an interest in sports history. But do most, if not all, 49ers fans remember that? I’m willing to bet so. And while that may not tarnish their memories of him, it probably feels a little dirty. Like Cowboy fans did when watching Emmitt play for the Cardinals. So don’t completely discount that.

And while I don’t think the Stars owe him anything, I feel Brandon came across as conveying the message that Mike sucks and should just retire now because we don’t need him, and if he doesn’t get that, then good riddance. Like a jilted lover. This probably wasn’t his intent, but it still came across like that. He also introduced a completely irrelevant point about bringing back other old players- no one was arguing that, so it’s a wasted point to make.

Again, the Stars don’t owe him anything, but you seem to be expecting fans to be rational about this. They’re not, for the most part, and if the Stars don’t get that, then fairly or not, some people who feel they owe Mike will be upset and may bail on this team as a whole. Perhaps a relatively large amount of people. And while you as a fan Brandon may not want them around anyways, that’s bad business, and the Stats just can’t discount that either.

And finally, I’m not sure I actually believe what I wrote or not. I think Brandon makes a very fair point (though maybe a little harshly), but there is another side to this that I think should be made, even if it is in my clumsy hands.

by Giant Space Ants on Jun 21, 2010 11:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah...hold up now.

Not my intent at all.

I have absolutely nothing against Mike Modano deciding he can still play the game and not retiring this summer. That’s his choice, and I respect him for whatever choice it is that he makes. As a Stars fan, I do wish that those great moments we experienced at the end of the season stay as magical as they were though, because Modano going to to play for the LA Kings would just seem….wrong.

But would I be angry at Modano for choosing that route? Not even close.

My anger was directed at the fans who say that “the Stars owe it to Mike Modano to sign him and keep him if he decides not to retire.”

That there are Stars fans out there who think Nieuwendyk would become a hated figure in Dallas for “letting Mike walk away” is pure nonsense. What the heck is the guy supposed to do? I’m sure Nieuwy will approach Modano, say we’ll give you a one-year, $1 million deal if you want to stay. (Even then, I think that’s more than the Stars can afford at this point for a 40 year old forward).

Then Modano tests the FA market, and comes back to the Stars. “Joe, the Capitals will pay me $2 million for two years. Will you match that?” He gives Joe the chance. Obviously, that he can’t match that. Mike walks.

Does that make Modano a bad person? Hell no. Does that make Joe Nieuwendyk a bad GM? Not a bit.

Nieuwendyk, at some point, needs to make moves to make this HIS TEAM and to get this franchise moving forward. A 40 year old 3rd line center may not be in those plans, even if he is Mike Modano.

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by Brandon Worley on Jun 21, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alright, that's fine.

Assuming Joe does make an offer. If he doesn’t, (assuming Mike tells him he wants to come back) then I have a problem (this year- the tables will turn on Mike anything past that). It wouldn’t so much be losing respect for him (I’m not even sure what that means- I’ve never met him), but losing confidence in his ability as a GM*. Part of his job needs to be understanding the fanbase, and unless he’s got a bona-fide Stanley Cup contender, he’ll lose fans if he just ditches Modano (which I don’t think he will, but I’m not sure). If anyone should know, it should be him- some fans bailed when he and Jamie got traded.

*Not to say it couldn’t be gained back. Look at Jon Daniels.

by Giant Space Ants on Jun 21, 2010 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here is where I will respectfully disagree.

The trade that sent Joe and Langenbrunner to New Jersey was completely different. Those two still had productive years ahead of them, hell Langenbrunner went on to become the captain of the Devils. Fans were angry not just because they lost #15 and #25…they were angry because actually set the Stars back when you compare the impact of the players involved.

I just can’t agree with a GM deciding to shell out very precious dollars for a player that’s not in the future of the team, in order to appease the fanbase.

It’s not like Joe would decide not to keep Modano strictly because of money either; if Nieuwendyk truly believes the Stars are better going in a different direction then that is the decision you have to trust Joe to make. You say he needs to listen to the fanbase, I say that winning games and being successful on the ice is even more important.

If this team had a bigger budget, this would be moot. They could afford to keep him, still acquire the talent they need to improve as a team — and everyone’s happy. As it is, Nieuwy doesn’t have that flexibility.

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by Brandon Worley on Jun 22, 2010 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Let's just all agree that Tom Hicks is an asshole.

What if any time table is there for the bidding on the Dallas Stars? It seems like if we could get a new owner we could give Mike Modano a respectable offer and let him decide. I doesn’t seem like he wants to be a second line center. He just wants to know that there is a chance of winning.

In the meantime GM Joe has to do what’s best for the organization. If the Stars win, fans will show up. Just think about how many “Stars fans” there were a couple of years ago when we went to the western conference finals. In the world of sports winning cures everything.

by DFWFan on Jun 22, 2010 4:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well said!

Passion and hockey, whodda thunk it? lol Fantastic posts. VERY well said!

We, Stars nation, gave him everything we had when we said good-bye in April. If he wears another jersey come September, well, so be it. I will still be a fan but against the Stars? yeah, I hope he gets squished. :-)

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by PNLTBX on Jun 21, 2010 11:33 PM CDT reply actions  

I will not begrudge Mo a thing if he plays elsewhere next season. Hell, I’ll go buy his jersey.* Blame Hicks — the Penniless Plutocrat — for being over his head? I think he’s gotta shoulder some of it.

*Unless it’s, like Detroit or something. Or Anaheim.

Most of all, I blame Marc Crawford for running this team into a ditch; Nieuwendyk catches some shrapnel for running Tippett out of town and hiring this retread who lacks the acumen to run so much as a godforsaken popsicle stand.

It was Crawford’s decision to deploy Modano as little more than Fabian Brunnstrom’s babysitter. (BTW, nice job qualifying that stiff, Nieuwy.) It was Crawford’s decision to crowd center ice by moving Benn there. (Though it’s worked, and Crow deserves credit.) It was Crawford who persistently put the wrong players on the penalty killing unit game after game after game (at least until Wandell got hurt, and even then he didn’t use Modano at all; liked Ribiero on the PK, did not like the others he tried).

(See Puck Prospectus’ shots for/against per 60 minutes stats to back up the case for Crawford’s ineptitude in penalty-killer deployment.)

It was Crawford who came in preaching tempo and transition without delivering any offensive improvements — particularly from the defensemen — and a “transition game” that requires quotation marks because it was so brutal. The Dallas Stars have no chance of competing for a Stanley Cup as long as Crawford is the coach.

Mike Modano is 40 years ago, and as some scientist up there pointed out, he ain’t what he once was. But truly elite skill erodes much more slowly than middling skill — We’re still terrified of Teemu Selanne, aren’t we? I think he’s still a better passer than even Brad Richards, and I attend about half the Stars’ home games. I honestly believe he’s got more in the tank than playing for a boob like Crawford has allowed him to show.

Tie Fabian Brunnstrom to your favorite player’s back and give him an ineffective coach and see how he does.

by BMFS on Jun 21, 2010 11:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Good stuff

I appreciate the column, Brad. This is very much a tricky spot for both sides. It is tough to tell a guy to retire, but it is also difficult to give a guy a limitless contract when you are trying to move the franchise along. Complex for sure.

by Bob Sturm on Jun 22, 2010 8:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Like I said yesterday...I'm over it.

Of course, I’m a bit younger and obviously am not as attached to him as some of you, but I poured my heart out when I was at the AAC in April. I remember telling Brad that night that it’d be strange to see him back after such an emotional night.

Now, I’m not saying I want him gone. I love the guy, and just thinking of the name ‘Modano’ on the back of, I don’t know, a Flames jersey makes me sad. But y’know, it’s sports. This happens. Heck, it could’ve happened at the trade deadline, and we’d be crying about him being in a Caps jersey. We would’ve done the same things we’re doing now. Blaming Joe, blaming Crawford, angry at everyone and sad about Mo leaving.

Only we’re doing it now. No matter what, if he decided to return, there was always a chance it wouldn’t be with Dallas…and eventually we’d be pointing fingers and Joe and Crawford would be getting flak. It was inevitable…but I guarantee once the season gets underway we all will be over it. It’ll be strange, but we’ll be over it.

But we’ll all still be criticizing Fabian Brunnstrom. Some things never change ;)

by Pat Iversen on Jun 22, 2010 11:57 AM CDT reply actions  

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