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2010 Playoff Nightcap: Goodnight Detroit!

Detroit: 1 - San Jose: 2 (Sharks Win Series 4-1)

Ding-dong, Detroit is done!

Red Wings fans always wonder how other NHL fans can disrespect their team without thinking twice about it.  To that I say:  Is it really that hard to figure out for you Red Wings fans?

Your team has made the playoffs every year since seemingly forever which would annoy us even if your team was the most gentlemanly team on earth and visited hospitals every single off day.  Also, despite the fact your team has been the class of the league for two decades, you Red Wing fans still ramble on about this insane conspiracy theory where your screw on your tinfoil hat tight and try to convince us and yourselves that the NHL is somehow out to get your boys and cause them to fail.  Add to that because your team wins every season, you've come to have this feeling of self-importance that you're somehow better than every other hockey fan by calling your home city "Hockeytown" when I clearly remember back in the early to mid 80's you were "Tigertown" and hockey before Steve Yzerman was of little interest to you people, not to mention I think places like Buffalo, Philly, Denver and any place in the state of Minnesota could give you a severe challenge on that title.

And in the very rare moments where we non-Wings fans might be willing to not so much support, but at the same time not be totally against a Wings win, you have someone like goalie Jimmy Howard who during a tie game and after forcing a shot wide... stopping... uhhh...  standing in net while watching Joe Pavelski inexplicably miss the net, boards and glass on a penalty shot do three fist pumps and then stare down Pavelski as if he was Pat Roy, Dom Hasek and Ken Dryden all rolled into one.

That one moment is now the NHL's equivalent of the Matt Haselbeck "We want the ball and we're gonna score" moment.  It is also now prime example number one as to why no one can really stand the Wings.  You're tied in a very tight game, you lose this one and you go home, you get lucky against the league's hottest clutch goal scorer of the moment... and you do fist pumps and stare down the guy?!

That is why we can't stand your team...  All of what I said before and THAT.

Truth be told no one - outside of their own fans - likes the Sharks either, and mere minutes after they locked up the series win people came out of the woodwork to tweet that a series between the Sharks and Chicago would end badly for San Jose, but at least their goalie has never pumped his fist after making a save on a penalty shot much less standing still and watching the puck whiz harmlessly by...

Good riddance Red Wings... And take your fist pumping, hasn't won anything of importance yet, was only in because he was a better option than Chris Osgood, probably fetches Steve Yzerman his coffee in the mornings, rookie goaltender with you!

Star-divide

Montreal: 1 - Pittsburgh: 2 (Penguins Lead Series 3-2)

When it comes to the Sidney Crosby / Alex Ovechkin rivalry, I will be the first to admit that I lean more towards Sid 9.5 times out of 10 and despite the fact he has gone goal-less in this series, I will maintain that's still the best player in the league and more clutch a player than Ovechkin.  I also have no problem with networks like NBC during the middle of say a Blackhawks - Red Wings game dropping Crosby's name a few times over because no matter if we want to admit it or not, the truth is NBC (and the NHL) is trying to appeal to casual sports fans and while those casual fans really don't care or have heard that much about say Dustin Byfuglien (although they should based on his awesome name alone) they do know Crosby and the more they hear about him, the more they'll stay tuned in.

So while I don't have an issue with over-Crosby-saturation, I do have my limits - as does Don Cherry as you may have seen if you were lucky enough to have the CBC broadcast.

Before the game there is CBC getting Sid's thoughts going into the game...  During an intermission CBC is there getting Sid's thoughts about the game so far... And after the game - a game that he only had one shot and only had two hits - who does CBC go to first for a Penguins point of view?  Number 87 of course.

And yet the NHL wonders why there could ever be backlash against Sid.  Gee... No idea Gary.

Sergei Gonchar had a goal and an assist, Marc Andre Fleury was less than a minute away from yet another shutout, Evgeni Malkin had a a ton of shots and was all over the place - yes english isn't the first language for any of those guys, but they do in fact speak it...  The NHL and their broadcasters would be wise to actually talk to them once in a while.

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I knew I joined this site for good reason.

Thank you Art, for voicing just about every reason I dislike the Red Wings in one post.

And then recapping the Pens-Habs game.

St. Louis Game Time . . . I need another beer.

by Donut King on May 9, 2010 12:35 AM CDT reply actions  

look i don't like detroit either but

that fist pump was NO WHERE NEAR the hasselback remark. and let the kid have some fun. this is hockey. yes, that was the alex ovechkin of goalie celebrations (i love ovi btw), but think how skaters celebrate on fluke goals and crap like that. give me a break with the fist pump.

and don’t write him off as a ‘better option’ than chris osgood. that guy is a proven playoff performer, better than any goalie this organization has seen. and i IDOLIZED belfour growing up and turco during my high school years more than any other goalie (i play goalie). howard was great for them this season and for a good deal of the postseason (not too great this series).

but i’m glad they’re gone. but san jose needs to follow quickly. and that was a very appropriate summary for the JV game on tonight.

by agvdstars on May 9, 2010 3:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Better, is he?

This is what I’ve found, regarding the regular season save percentages of each of these goalies, in their first seasons as starter (since this is Jimmy Howard’s first season as a starter). I threw in 1999-2000 Belfour for fun, since it was his best season (in save percentage) as a Star.

Jimmy Howard (age 26) save percentage (09-10): .924 (013)
League save percentage (09-10): .911
(09-10 stats courtesy of Yahoo)
Marty Turco (age 27) regular season save percentage (02-03): .932 (023)
League save percentage (02-03): .909
Ed Belfour (age 34) save percentage (98-99): .919 (015)
League save percentage (99-00): .904
Ed Belfour (age 25) save percentage (90-91): .910 (024)
League save percentage (90-91): .886
(Historic goalie stats courtesy of hockeydb.com; historic league averages courtesy of www.quanthockey.com/)

These stats seem to suggest that Howard is not a superior goaltender, relative to his time. His save percentage is notably lower than 02-03 Turco’s, even though the league average save percentage was lower then.

Howard is obviously a good goaltender, but I think you’re underrating the Stars’ top goalies — like everyone else in the League.

by C. Bob on May 9, 2010 9:39 AM CDT reply actions  

i meant osgood

and the multiple cups that he backstopped

by agvdstars on May 9, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't realize we had some Dallas supporters.

Thanks and hopefully we can end this tonight!

I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield

by stacie7 on May 9, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

You’re playing Vancouver. We want you to win.

You’re about to play San Jose. We want you to win that one too.

Go Hawks (for the immediate future).

"It would've been a huge momentum boost if we had beaten the St. Mary's School for the Blessed, Blind, Deaf and Dumb."

Hockey nut since the night of 5/2/08. What a night it was.

DefendingBigD

Twitter: PatIVERSEN

by Pat Iversen on May 9, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks guys

we can use all the support we can get

I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield

by stacie7 on May 10, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sayonara, Detroit. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Next up: Whiny Luongo and his devoted followers of Tinfoil Hats and Complaining.

"It would've been a huge momentum boost if we had beaten the St. Mary's School for the Blessed, Blind, Deaf and Dumb."

Hockey nut since the night of 5/2/08. What a night it was.

DefendingBigD

Twitter: PatIVERSEN

by Pat Iversen on May 9, 2010 10:01 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

And for more on tin foil hat conspiracies, here's the great Canucks blog, Kurtenblog

This is fitting.

Remember the part in Goodfellas when Sonny Bunz convinces Paulie to take a piece of the Bamboo Lounge because Sonny wants some muscle behind the joint?

It sounded like such a good idea at first.

“Now the guy’s got Paulie as a partner,” Henry narrates. “Any problems, he goes to Paulie. Trouble with the bill? He can go to Paulie. Trouble with the cops? Deliveries? Tommy? He can call Paulie.”

Of course, there was a flip side for Sonny, as Henry colourfully explains: “But now the guy’s got to come up with Paulie’s money every week, no matter what. Business bad? (Bleep) you, pay me. Oh, you had a fire? (Bleep) you, pay me. The place got hit by lightning, huh? (Bleep) you, pay me.”

What does this have to do with the Vancouver Canucks? After Wednesday night: everything. Because the Stanley Cup is a lot like the mob. It cares not for excuses.

Not getting the calls? (Bleep) you, find a way. Oh, the other team isn’t playing fair? (Bleep) you, find a way. There’s a big conspiracy, huh? (Bleep) you, find a way.

Fortunately, the Stanley Cup won’t run up your credit to sell booze for half price out the back door. Gary Bettman might, but not the Cup. (Populist humour!)

The point is, nobody ever said hockey was just. The referees will not always get it right. Certain players will get away with breaking the rules; other players won’t. You can even go ahead and believe the league wants your team to lose. Guess what? (Bleep) you, find a way.

And if you’ve never seen Good Fellas, (bleep) you. Find a way…to watch it.

by Brandon Bibb on May 9, 2010 10:08 AM CDT reply actions  

wow

what a ridiculous comparison.

the canucks have simply just imploded. when the precious sedins are going after people after the whistle and taking dumb cheap penalties, its hard for anyone to sympathize with that.

ive reffed and played goal. i don’t want to listen to a goalie bitch at me ever. it will make me not stick up for you.

besides, chicago is being physical, vancouver is being cheap, and couldn’t be acting more entitled.

we need to rescue Kesler. he’s becoming more and more vancouver-snobbish and i don’t like it.

by agvdstars on May 9, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Goodfellas is alright

But I’ve come to think it’s overrated. Scorsese spent too much time on the relationship between Henry and Karen. It doesn’t have anything on either of the first two Godfathers.

I’m struggling to find who to root for. Can’t cheer for anyone in the West. Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can’t do it.

I suppose I’ll go for the Pittsburgh/Montreal winner (probably Pitt). I can’t stand Crosby, but I’ve always had an affinity for Pittsburgh teams (Steelers, even the Pirates) next to the Dallas ones, and I can’t shake that off just because of one guy. But Crosby doesn’t have anything on Super Mario.

by Giant Space Ants on May 9, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, I finished rooting for Pittsburgh once they won the Cup.

I hate repeat winners. It’s not fun. It’s not interesting. It’s why I don’t watch the NBA anymore. There’s no parity. It’s all Celtics, Lakers, Magic, and Cavs.

The MLB and NHL have kept me interested for so long partly because for the last decade there haven’t been any dynasties..if it’s not my team winning, I want ultimate parity.

So go Habs.

"It would've been a huge momentum boost if we had beaten the St. Mary's School for the Blessed, Blind, Deaf and Dumb."

Hockey nut since the night of 5/2/08. What a night it was.

DefendingBigD

Twitter: PatIVERSEN

by Pat Iversen on May 9, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey…You forgot the Spurs. Oh Yah…they dont win anymore…lol

by k9mike on May 10, 2010 7:08 AM CDT reply actions  

PS

See ya Detroit… Peace out suckas! We got a chair by the pool… Who do we root off the island in the end? Chi or SJ?

by KStars on May 10, 2010 9:21 PM CDT reply actions  

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