Are the Stars Without Positives Moving Forward?
This blog loves the Dallas Morning News. We absolutely love it. It is the life blood of Dallas Stars news, plain and simple. We could not discuss half of the things we do here without the work done by Mike Heika and others. That goes double in the off-season, when we cannot gather information with our own eyeballs about the team.
That being said, here's something from Dallas Morning News columnist Tim Cowlishaw that we don't love:
What are the off-season hopes for the Stars? Things do not look bright for this team's future. The faces of the franchise moving forward are Steve Ott and Kari Lehtonen. That's not a knock on either of those young men. But Turco is gone, Modano and Lehtinen have one skate out the door, Richards has one year left on his contract and Morrow won't be here forever. Long rough road ahead. "Regular readers of this blog (or any Stars blog) likely have a puzzled "Huh?" kind of look on their face after reading that!!", was my immediate reaction. Then I considered the fact that he might be speaking for a larger percentage of the fan base than I realize. Is this really the way people see the future of the Dallas Stars? With nothing positive going forward? Someone came into that chat, asking about the Stars, evidently fishing for a little bit of sunshine on an otherwise cloudy-hockey day, and they get told basically to abandon hope. There is none. Tim Cowlishaw gets paid money to pay attention to and opine on all things sports in Dallas. It's the coolest job in the world. He was a Stars beat writer in the 90's, he's a (partial) season ticket holder, he's on television, etc. We have no reason to discount his opinion on the Stars or anything else. Indeed, it's not our place. I will say, however, that if the same question were put to me or any of the DBD writers, our opinion would be vastly different. (And you know what they say about opinions...)
Things do not look bright for this team's future. The faces of the franchise moving forward are Steve Ott and Kari Lehtonen.
On the Mount Rushmore of Dallas Stars players, do either of those even make it? (Fun debate for another day) Lehtonen doesn't even have a deal yet. The ambiguity of "moving forward" aside, I don't agree with the premise that your starting goaltender automatically becomes a "face of the franchise."
That Richards has a year left on his deal, I personally would tell you, can be a win-win. Either he's going to get extended this summer, or he's going to be traded and his $7.8 million price tag can be spread to other areas of need. (i.e. the defenseman everyone is clamoring for.) So there's a hope for the defensive minded.
(And BTW, Steve Ott's deal runs only one year longer than Brenden Morrow's who "won't be here forever".)
All that aside, were I to answer that question in my own way, the stars (pun?) of the proverbial show would be the trio of Loui Eriksson, Jamie Benn, and James Neal. Somewhere in my very own 63 word dismissal of the Stars future I would have included a mention of the teams brightest young talent, accounting for 78 goals and 167 points last season. No matter who you are and how you look at it, the future for those three looks exceptionally bright. Hope for the future? Yes.
The team as a whole? Until it gets sold the answer from anyone (this blog included) is going to be "Not good," as least as far as next season goes. What is good is that the sale is moving forward quietly, and with much interest from would-be buyers. Hope for next year? Unclear. Hope for the future? Of course.
What about the possibility of a Mike Ribeiro trade to free up money for defense? What about another high draft pick?
Getting to know me as many of you have over the last year, you've no doubt become familiar with the particular "glass half full" prism through which I see this team, so you know it's not from some kind of loyalty-blinding, homerific "Rah-Rah!" soapbox that I speak.
This team has a lot of positives going forward; Plenty of off-season hope.
At the very least they're "three wide" with Benn, Neal and Eriksson.
Or am I reading it wrong? Is it really as hopeless as some would have you believe?
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Thank God
I thought Cowlishaw was completely uninformed in this post as well. It’s like when Jean-Jacques Taylor writes about the Stars. There was a great comment on the DMN blog that must have been deleted. It went something like, “Tim, don’t you have something else to write about like Dez Bryant dropping his Gatorade in the Cowboys locker room?”
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plenty of hope for the stars going forward....
you have to throw ownership aside due to the controllability factor…however, nieuwy is a smart and savvy gm who has made some solid pick-ups for this club with not much money to do it with (see brandon segal and kari lehtonen bc lets be honest vishy is no more than nisky) he also got otter and loui resigned which is massive for the future and is working on the real deal which will help secure our offense for the near future (including benn, wandell, morrow, richie (we will see how long truly)), plus we have some solid prospects in our system (glennie, larsen, climie, etc…) and will gain more with this years draft…turning to defense you have to like the strides made by fisty, grossman, and daley this year and im willing to give nisky one more season to figure it out on his own (when you play your rook yr with zubie there aint much of a learning curve!!) also i think woywitka can continue to develop with some solid minutes. then you bring in larsen next year and start his progression and that leaves you needing just one-two solid minute eating d-men (not sure how this will happen but thats nieuwys job right now and i got full faith and confidence in him)…..moving to goalie situation, assuming we resign kari im excited. he can be a very very solid nhl tender, yes he has had injury problems but they stem from his own admission of not dedicating himself conditioning wise which should change now and allow him to elevate his game for the stars. we just need to sign a solid veteran backup tender or even maybe another young guy to come in and work kari so that they continually push each other (again a nieuwy decision)……all in all, for cowlishaw or anyone for that matter to look at the stars, again sans ownership issues which will help alleviate massive pressure on the organization, and say that there is no hope for the future is to basically embarass and discredit yourself with the solid, knowledgeable hockey fan base that actually does exist in dallas and throughout the nhl for that matter….come on stars fans, we know our team better than that GO STARS!!!!!!
by starshorns on May 4, 2010 4:35 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
however, nieuwy is a smart and savvy gm who has made some solid pick-ups for this club with not much money to do it with
THANK YOU. Thank you so, so much. This has been my opinion for months, and I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks it!
"It would've been a huge momentum boost if we had beaten the St. Mary's School for the Blessed, Blind, Deaf and Dumb."
Hockey nut since the night of 5/2/08. What a night it was.
DefendingBigD
Cowlishaw also thinks the Rangers have a chance to win it all every year....
so his opinion doesn’t count for much to me.
Okay, so I don't know if that's really true or not.
But I felt like it needed to be said regardless.
Sour Taste
I don’t like the attitude he gives off. In the position he is in it is not helping anything by using his media position to spew his negative mumbo jumbo. How would on-the-fence fans react to that kind of column? It is his right to call it like he see’s it, but it strikes me as bitterness over 2 seasons of poor performances more than it does legitimate reporting.
I think it was just easier to look at the negative and make it doom&gloom than look at the bright future. Look at Chicago/Pittsburg pre-lockout? I am aware the difference between Toews/Kane/Keith/Seabrook and Crosby/Malkin/Staal/Fleury is not comparable to Neal/Eriksson/Benn/Grossman/Fistric. However it is the same process, this team has been building strong young talent through the draft and there is nowhere to go but up for this team. The financial situation cannot get any worse, I honestly believe this franchise is at it’s worst.
So to me a guy in the media with the influence he carries with him I dislike that he would chose to ignore the positives and put out to me a totally partial article that seems to be a lot more emotional than factual. Robidas, Fistric, Grossman also get me excited by the way.
its simple:
richards, erikkson, benn, neal, ott, ribeiro, morrow, robidas, grossman, lehtonen… not a bad foundation whatsoever, and half of those guys are only going to get better.
emergences of fistric, wandell, segal, depth guys like lehtinen, petersen, skrastins.
simply need: back-up goalie, daley to not be a march/april-only player, 1 top 2-defensemen (sorry folks, robidas’s numbers are number 1 quality), and more importantly HEART & WILL.
if this team shows up to play like they’re capable of, there’s the firepower to make the playoffs, and be successful. but for some reason there has been no consistency whatsoever, as we all know. fix that, and we’re right back in it next year.
I just wanted to remind everyone to set their alarms to 1:24 am to celebrate Cinco de Morrow!
Here's to all us girls who love hockey...and the men who play it.
by Brad_Richards_Rocks on May 4, 2010 5:30 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Things Look'n good to me!
As long as Cowlishaw and Taylor are around and don’t have anything better to do than spread doom and gloom, some fans might pick up on that and decide they both know what they are talking about. If anyone reading this thinks that way, CHANGE!!! They need to go back to their home in the land of “far-far-away” where they are obviously getting their information.
If the Stars have a great year this coming season those Stars’ stars might just want to stick around. And if Brad gets moody and decides to leave, I would hate that but he is NOT the only one in the NHL that is great. As anyone can see that has been watching the playoffs, it doesn’t always work out for every team. Pick a team and hope that you can win another cup. Good luck with that.
IMO the Stars have a very bright future despite what the non-hockey writers report. The one thing that would really be a help to the team is if Tom Hicks would hurry and get out of the way and stop draining the money off.
Go Stars!!!!!!!!!! They will be just fine despite what Cowlishaw and Taylor say.
The problem with garbage like this is when others use it.
Like when sports ilustrated recycled this in thier rumor section. SI.com is already a poor hockey site, ESPN is much better, but when a national audience is told that Kari and Otter are the faces for our future we are degraded in the eyes of others. There is no mention of Neal, Loui, and Benn… This is trash. Tim is living in the 90’s, and like it was written days ago, its time to move on.
I am still "FRISKY FOR NISKY"
Cowlishaw has been dismal
ever since he got to PTI.
As for the Stars, seems like they’re a couple of really solid d-men (not even a true #1 guy) and some defensive presence-of-mind from being there in the playoffs. Of course, it’s never easy to find even that and I don’t know how far they go once they get in, but the future isn’t all that bad.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
Uhhh...
I think they are that far away from being a dangerous cup contender. They are already a playoff threat just by being in the league(see Phoenix Coyotes). Any kind of growth at all from this teams young core, and consistent goaltending gives this team a great shot at being a playoff team. And once your there I think there are serious flaws in every team in the west. Chicago-goaltending, San Jose-choke, Detroit-age/fatigue, Vancouver-defense etc….
to be supremely optimistic (and hopefully not jinx the start of next year)
if dallas wins their first game next year, can we say their on a 3-game win streak? please? is it a guarantee that they are not winning the first game cause i said this? probably.
half-full half-full half full. we have a finnish goalie. they’re really good for some reason. we have talented forwards who will get it together for a full season. our defense will come into its own during their 4th year as a unit. everything will be great.
I was thinking of this
Just last night while watching the Hawks vs Canucks. I honestly don’t know if I’m over-romanticizing the 98-2000 Stars, but does it seem to anyone else that they would have blown any of these teams out of the water with their overall play?
It also made me think of whether the current team could compete with any of the finalists and I’m not sure that one single piece can fix it.




















