Marty Turco's Last Game Sits in Shadow of Modano's
While Mike Modano's 20 year storied NHL career gets all the headlines in the media, Marty Turco's last game in a Dallas Stars uniform is going largely unmentioned by Stars fans and national media alike. This blog has been guilty of it too.
There's no quesiton in anyone's mind which is more deserving of the attention, but that's not to say that Marty Turco isn't deserving of any attention. His name has been connected to the franchise for 16 years, since he was taken in the 1994 entry draft. He's worn a Dallas Stars uniform for nearly 10 years, since the 2000-2001 season, and he's been the teams starting netminder for 7 seasons, starting in 2002.
Marty Turco has been confirmed as the starter for tomorrow night's home finale, and barring any miraculous or strange occurrences in the next 4 months, it will be his last in a Dallas Stars uniform. It's going to be hard for we who have known him best to sandwich potential goodbye's to Mike Modano and Marty Turco (and to a lesser extent, Jere Lehtinen) into one 60 minute hockey game, but that's the hand that's been dealt.
Now that it is indeed over, it's time to shelve the poisonous "Marty Sucks" mantras and take a second to reflect on what he's meant to the fans and franchise here in Dallas...
Marty Turco is a gunslinger.
That's a term that is often applied to NFL quarterbacks like Brett Favre, who, to put it mildly, like to take chances. This applies to nearly every aspect of the mans game, not just the puck handling. He's been described over the years as a bit of a gambler (some night's more than a little bit) and until the last two down seasons, it worked for him extremely well. There was a time when he controlled his chaos just enough that it made him genius. It was a controlled chaos he showed off this year just before the Olympic break.
His legacy will be one of controversy, and to some, disappointment.
The Good:
- In 2002-2003 he set a modern day NHL record with his 1.72 GAA that season. (Since broken by Kirpusoff)
- Won 30+ games six years in a row (longest active streak...ending this year)
- In his last two playoff runs (2007 and 2008) he's played 25 games, allowing only 1.84 GAA with a .931 save percentage and 4 shutouts (3 in one series against Vancouver in 2007.)
- Holds team records in (for goaltenders) wins, games played, shutouts, consecutive starts, minutes played, and assists.
The Bad:
- No Stanley Cup
- Consecutive first round exits post-lockout.
- Played 11 games at Joe Louis Arena before earning first regular season victory.
- Inconsistent play in last two years with the team.
Without being given a chance to turn his numbers around, the debate surrounding Marty Turco's time here will likely never be given a satisfactory conclusion. He played in Dave Tippett's system, which was largely the same as Ken Hitchcock's system. He played with Zubov, Hatcher and Matvichuk for a time. He spent most of his good years with Philippe Boucher. He made his run in 2008 with Mattius Norstrum, Sergei Zubov and Boucher.
Like Brodeur in NJ, for most of his time in Dallas, Turco played behind a group of men, and a system, that protected him the way any good defense should. For two seasons now that has been absent. Without a return to a, forgive me, competent d-core here in Dallas, the question of whether or not Turco could have returned to being the player he once was will have to be answered in a different city.
Brenden and Marty
His legacy in Dallas, up to this point, has been linked by the media and fans alike to Brenden Morrow. The two rose to leadership positions on this team together, blossoming together, and their friendship is no secret.
Watching the two battle in the playoffs in 2007, and seeing that classic picture of them as game 7 in Vancouver ended, you couldn't help but root for the two of them. I wanted them to succeed as a team.

Then in 2008 the two battled even harder, but Detroit was too much to overcome. As Marty departs, I choose to look at these not as failures, but fond memories.
His legacy in Dallas will be inextricably tied to Brenden Morrow and Dave Tippett, for at least the near future, and the conversation will always drift toward whether or not any one of them is capable of winning a Cup. Marty is young enough (34) that he has time to redefine that legacy elsewhere. At 261 wins, even 4 or 5 more mediocre seasons would be enough to vault him into the top 25 or top 15 all time. And given the right circumstances with a strong team, he is still capable of performing well in the playoffs.
Remember the Good Times
I am already seeing people around the internet saying "He couldn't win a cup. He sucks. Good riddance." If that's your line of demarcation then that makes pretty much every goalie to ever play the game a loser.
Do not remember Marty Turco as a failure in Dallas. The Stars succeed and fail as a team.
Remember Marty Turco for being a crafty play maker. Remember Marty Turco for his 4OT victory against the Sharks (the finest of his career). Remember Marty Turco for all of his team records. Remember him for what he is, which is someone who belong smack dab in the middle of the conversation entitled: "Who is the Stars best goaltender of all time?"
Honor Mike Modano tomorrow, but don't forget about Marty.
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Oh, I won't forget (and stop trying to turn me into a wreck 24 hours before the game is even played).
Possibly saying goodbye to three of the best to play in a Stars uniform, all in one game? I’m going to need some time and space before I can put coherent words together about that.
All I can say right now is “Thanks for the memories.”
Well put...
I’m going to miss Marty as a goalie, and he seemed like a very likeable guy. Who knows what would have happened had the D been a little better the last 2 seasons.
It’s so nerve-racking to let go of all 3 at the same time… Mainly because with Mo and Lehts gone, there won’t be anyone left on the tem from when we last won the cup. It’s a frightening thought.
Been frustrated by Marty this year.
But, damn, he was a pleasure to watch for most of his tenure here. I continue to believe he was hung out to dry in many of those series losses (clear out Andrew FREAKIN Brunette from the front of the net!) and blamed for losses that weren’t really his fault (three shutouts in the Vancouver series and he still got blamed by some?). Plus, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a comparable puckhandler or true athlete at that position.
I’ll always be a Stars fan, and barring unforeseen circumstances, I’ll be a fan of Marty as his career continues. Thanks, Marty.
Great post! I’ve had a soft spot for the Stars over the last decade or so and Marty Turco quickly became one of my favorite goalies as a result. Heck, I was even kind of proud of him after his superhuman performance against my Caps earlier this year.
He’s just such a likable guy and a much better goalie than people give him credit for – I’ll be sad to see him leave Dallas, for sure.
Oh, and bless you for putting that mic’d up video on here, love it :)
Marty will be sorely missed
in my opinion. as a goalie, i looked up to belfour and marty my whole life. marty is as classy as they come off the ice in this sport, and i absolutely love his heart and desire to win. he is a winner. he’s won national championships in college (2), which i contest is harder to win than the stanley cup. you don’t realize how hard being a goaltender is until you’ve played it, especially in the playoffs, where you cannot count on teammates to bail you out. as a goalie, you are counted on to bail your team out night in and night out, and if you don’t, then you’re a failure. what other position in hockey is like that? none. even in football, you can win with a bad quarterback. but you can never win in hockey with bad goaltending.
give Marty his due. he deserves to go out with one last night filled of “Marty! Marty!”. he’s done so much for this organization. turks has continued to be a class act and a warrior throughout his time here, and I wish all the best for him in the future.
Good post,
I would add that in addition to never winning with bad goaltending, you also can lose with great goal tending ie Vancouver
I hope he gets a shot with someone
Good.
In the East, that is.
I would love to see him win another 80 games or so if he can and put himself amongst some pretty special names on the list.
But who knows? If the market doesn’t pan out the way he wants, will he go somewhere for money or for PT? It’s going to be interesting. I’m going to miss him, especially at practice and at camp. He’s such a personality and such a fun guy.
caps won't resign theodore
if they slip up i could see him there. but that’s another team with not stellar defense.
but how about phoenix? got brzy locked up for only another year; he’s gonna demand a lot i would suspect. has a solid relationship with tippett. i would hate to see him go there, but i think its a possibility no one has mentioned.
or maybe st. louis. i just don’t seem him moving his family at this point in his life. i don’t see him leaving either.
it’ll be interesting. i’m keeping my fingers crossed for him to come back and mentor kari a bit more, at least for another year.
If he's not with the Stars, I really want to see Marty go east....
I don’t think I could handle seeing him play against the Stars 4-6 times a year.
And yes, that has to be very hard with the family – from everything I’ve heard, they love it here, the kids were born here, they have friends here. I know when Kovalchuk went to NJ, he kept his house in Atlanta because his family loved it there and his child was born there. I wonder if we would still see Marty and his family around town sometimes?
But yes, agvdstars, that would be my ideal situation (and a friend of mine, who isn’t exactly Marty’s biggest cheerleader, feels the same) – sign him for a year to mentor Kari and step in if necessary. I think Kari really needs a year under his belt just to make sure he really is behind his injury issues.
exactly
i think lehtonen is really starting to come around. but its really hard for me to judge a microcosmic season; we need a whole one.
I like what I've seen so far (except for the end of the first St. Louis game and the Pittsburgh game)
But a month does not a season make. We don’t want to throw him in with an inexperienced backup (or one who may be just as fragile, such as Brent Krahn) and have him need to take a break, and not be able to (a la Marty/Tobias last season). When Marty had an injury the end of last season, the Stars called up Matt Climie rather than start Tobias. And with the money situation being what it is, I’m afraid that is all they will be able to afford – unless they do bring Marty back with an incentive-laden contract to get around the budgetary issues or can convinced some other experienced goalie to go for something similar.
I love Marty Turco
Despite what everyone says, if they offer him anything to be Kari’s spine insurance, I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes it because he’s a loyal guy through and through.
But after all the hate this season, I’d rather see him make a fool of the people who dismiss him. Brad’s right — That won’t happen here, in no small part because he’s never able to know, moment to moment, if he’s the third defenseman or all three defensemen. I have faith/hope that the Stars will improve and mature, but Turco deserves a better end to his career than he’ll get here.
Unless a miracle occurs at work, I won’t be able to be there, but #35 will always be a Star.
Just realized why I'm actually
IF Mo is retiring, he’ll stop playing, but everyone knows he’s going to move to business side. If rumors are correct, he may move waaaay up on business side.
If Turco leaves Dallas… sniff
Post fail :)
Should say: Just realized why I’m actually a bit more broken up about Turco on some level
Great post
Turco is going to take someone far in the playoffs next year. Mark my words.
You had a slight typo in this sentence:
“Then in 2008 the two battled even harder, but Detroit was too much to overcome”
I believe what you meant to say was:
“Then in 2008 the two battled even harder, but the piss-poor refereeing was too much to overcome”
Corrected.
:-(
I was never much of a goalie girl…well, with the notable exception of Irbe…but dangit, I LIKE Marty.
His on-ice play can be exasperating and exhilarating, sometimes in the same game!
Off-ice he is quite simply one of the most gracious, gregarious, generous and generally one helluva guy.
I do not concur with those who chose to lay the blame for our disastrous seasons solely at Marty’s skates. Like Brad said (excellently, I must add) this team wins and loses as a TEAM.
I wish him every success now and in the future.
and in the “not needing to be said but will be said anyway” category: I’m so gonna bawl like a baby tonight.
**Proof SOME rules are meant to be broken**
No less an authority than Mike Modano agrees with you about laying all the blame at Marty's feet.
Check out one of the articles in the roundup about Mike – http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2010/04/on_the_verge_of_his_last_game.php. Mike was interviewed and he was asked about tonight possibly being it for Jere and Marty as well. He said flat out that Marty was a scapegoat and that no goalie could have made the team look good the way they were playing. Maybe some of the fans will listen to him.
Maybe.
And I’m not so sure about Jere, guys. I think he has a good shot at coming back next year.
by Brad Gardner on Apr 8, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Mike said in the interview that he had talked to Jere some and he didn't know what he was going to do yet.
I’ve actually heard some things that make it more likely Jere will be back than Mike.
end of a chapter
To me it seems fitting that if this is Turco’s last game, it ends against the Ducks. This chapter of the stars was what I’ve grown up with and will greatly miss. To me it’s a shame that Turco will leave Dallas without the credit he deserves. For me the blame of the playoff collapses (against the Av’s and Vancouver) should be placed at the doorstep of the Star’s offense that without fail would disappear come the playoffs. If it weren’t for Jean-Sébastien Giguère, I think Tuco and the Stars would have another Cup banner hanging in the AAC. But unfortunately after two lackluster years Turco will likely leave Dallas. I felt that season and battle in the playoffs against Giguère was the start of the current chapter of Dallas Stars. And fittingly if it is Turk’s last game in a Star’s uni, it comes against Ducks. As we all prepare for Turco’s departure my most found memories of him will be the series against the Ducks and him showing some emotion and tears after the loss to Vancouver. And I really respect the guy for being a solid competitor, a great guy, having great pads and better masks (hands down most thoughtful and innovative in the league).
As for his future, I hope he goes to Chicago. I’m a Stars fan through and through, but to be honest the team is still a season or two from making a real run at anything. With that being said I hope the Hawks, have an early playoff exit at their goalies expense and Turco can sign there in the summer. They are very young, exciting, and have a solid defense. Marty might be the missing piece to get them over the hump, it took the Eagle moving from Chicago to Dallas to get a Cup, maybe its just a reversal of fortunes this time around. Whatever happens this summer is still months away and in the least I hope tonight is a great game.





























