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Stars Will (Officially) Not Re-Sign Marty Turco

Well, it's being reported this morning by a number of national outlets that Joe Nieuwendyk has said publicly that the Dallas Stars will not be re-signing Marty Turco.

So if for some reason you were waiting for a formal announcement, there you go. Otherwise, February 9th was probably the day this decision was made in your eyes.

Here is the AP release:

DALLAS (AP) -- Goaltender Marty Turco's time with the Dallas Stars is over.

General manager Joe Nieuwendyk says the Stars will not re-sign Turco, who just completed his ninth season with the team. Nieuwendyk said Tuesday that he felt it was time to go "in a different direction."

Kari Lehtonen, acquired from Atlanta in February, will go into next season as the team's top goaltender.

The 34-year-old Turco just completed a $22.8 million, four-year contract he signed in January 2006 that kept him from becoming a free agent at the end of that season.

In 509 regular season games for Dallas, Turco won 262 games with a .911 save percentage and 2.31 goals-against average. He appeared in 47 playoff games.

We say sorry to you, Marty Turco. In a different time, with a different owner and a lot more cash, maybe a tandem system could have worked. Or maybe management would have felt the need to make a clean break either way, and move on.

The divisive goaltender spent years trying to answer questions about early exits from the playoffs, even while setting franchise records in the process. He finally answered his playoff critics, shutting the Canucks out three times in the first round in 2007, then brilliantly backstopping them to Game 6 of the 2008 WCF against Detroit, only to lose defensive veterans Zubov, Norstrum and Boucher the following season. Those losses, coupled with a new crop of young defensemen greatly changed Turco's circumstances, inducing a two year slide that led to the Kari Lethonen trade, and Marty's official exit today.

We wish him luck wherever he lands. (Hopefully somewhere out East.)

“I want to thank Marty for 10 years of service here,” Nieuwendyk said. “He’s a friend, he’s been a terrific competitor and a fan favorite. He has a lot to be proud of.”

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Big Mistake...

Shame on people for blaming marty for the struggles of this team. No D… High goals against. 2009 was all injuries, 2010 terrible defense. What do you want the guy to do? Sorry Stars fans. This is going to bite us in the ass, just like Tipp did!

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by coldskeet on Apr 13, 2010 11:41 AM CDT reply actions  

don't think it's entirely the idea that they didn't want him ...

I think part of the issue is that he was costing too much on an already small budget. Lehtonen costs them less.

by ibanez on Apr 13, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its a cost to performance ratio...

Turco was not performing up to his pricetag. And yes, an instant reply to that is ‘Look at Richards’ price!’ but that guy is performing up to his cost.

Even in 09 with injuries, and the poor defense this year, Turco still could’ve battled and performed better overall. Not saying he was horrible, but he wasn’t greatness either. Mediocrity in defense and goaltending = mediocrity in standings. Given a good and solid defensive system, Turco can perform well, he’s shown that. I also think he probably could’ve done great in an attack first system with his ability to help move the puck forward, but we’ve seen Turco try to focus more on offense and forget the goalstopping part sometimes.

As people have said, he’ll probably do great on another team, with the benefits that a change of scenery can bring. I hope so.

by blu3warri0r on Apr 13, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

i know it's moot now

but I think turco did do great. I think at times he looked shaky and those are the moments that stick out in our minds but if you look at his numbers that take into account the sheer number of shots he faced vs the time he was on the ice, he did better than any previous season. His overall save percentage was better than his Career average… I don’t know what more you want from the guy.

I’ll miss him.

by Guy Johnson on Apr 13, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

please please please stop saying that its a performance thing?

With the NHL’s WORST defense… Marty managed a .913 save percentage… His highest save percentage since 2003. Also his save percentage was better than a lot of other playoff goalies.

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by coldskeet on Apr 13, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will miss the man and his personality a great deal

He was a real joy to watch and be around when I was lucky enough to be.

by Brad Gardner on Apr 13, 2010 11:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

We got to see some performances that will not be matched in some time. Turco is definitely a unique person and athlete.

by blu3warri0r on Apr 13, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is it just me?

Or does it seem like Joe even tried to see if Marty would take a lesser role with the team? So does Krahn or Climie(sp?) dress for our boys in black next year? We will regret this nevertheless. As I said on the other post, godspeed, Marty.

by bigtill2002 on Apr 13, 2010 11:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Backups

Climie’s not ready. He’s only 21 and has just had his rookie season in the AHL. Krahn’s the guy if you want to go with someone already in the system. I don’t know about Krahn + Lehtonen on the injury front though.

I think the Stars might look at a UFA for the backup role.

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by scm83x on Apr 13, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Climie is 26

And I do not trust a tandem of Lehtonen/Krahn. Too injury prone.

by TracyJean on Apr 13, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

It doesn't really seem like they have taken the time to "consider all their options" as Joe put it a few weeks ago.

His mind apparently was already made up, which is a shame. And if they make no improvements on the blue line, I’ll start wondering why I bothered to renew my season tickets.

by TracyJean on Apr 13, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Right now, the things I’m hearing and seeing from him don’t convince me yet. We’ll see.

by TracyJean on Apr 13, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think the money is there.

It would be nice to try to bring back Turco in a lesser role, but would he want a lesser role and a much, much lower paycheck just to stay in Dallas? I don’t think the club can afford the luxury of a proven, higher-cost backup next year. I’d rather see that money spent on the defense.

by Closure GT on Apr 13, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup.

Spend Turco’s lost salary on defense. That will make Lehtonen look realllllly good.

by Travis Drybread on Apr 13, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I suppose that this means

Ribeiro is on the trading block.

Good defense > sometimes makes flashy offensive plays

by Travis Drybread on Apr 13, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

His stock is still high...

But not for long what with how he tanked at the end of the season. To me he seems to want to slow the game down, dust off the puck, and look for the perfect pass vs. getting the damn thing on net and letting Morrow hunt down the rebound. He was good in the old system, but he has to go if we want this to work.

by bigtill2002 on Apr 13, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

20 points in 23 games

After returning from injury to end the season is tanking?

I wish all of our guys would tank.

by Brad Gardner on Apr 13, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Ribs is not one of my favorites – he has just never appealed to me for some reason. But of all the forwards, it seems like doesn’t fit into Crawford’s system (assuming there really is such a thing) as well as the others. To spend on the blue line, someone has to be on the trading block, and I just think that it will be Ribs and maybe Richards if they cannot lock him up into a contract extention before next season (see Kovalchuk, Ilya).

by TracyJean on Apr 13, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel the same way

He’s the most marketable offensive piece the Stars have because losing him wouldn’t hurt them all that much.

For all of the offensive production he can provide, he turns the puck over far too often.

by Travis Drybread on Apr 13, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also

I think it will be easier to re-sign Richards, if we improve our guys on the blue line and make this team a contender again.

by Travis Drybread on Apr 13, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe it's just me

I naturally just don’t like the guy in our system as he seems to have gotten too big for his britches. He doesn’t seem like a game changer at all. Just flashy plays really. But that’s just my opinion. Also, I don’t feel like his personality fits a team that known (maybe not this season) as hard working blue collar guys who bring their lunch pail every day. As I don’t pay too much attention to other teams I’ll let you weigh in, Brad, as far as what we could get for him.

by bigtill2002 on Apr 13, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

You think Boston would like him?

You know…with that potential #2 draft pick they’ve got.

by Travis Drybread on Apr 13, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really...

Don’t feel a pick helps us improve next years defense, unless it’s a true number one, a couple of years in Allen, and Austin is inevitable.

by bigtill2002 on Apr 13, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah but the question is what you accomplished short term.

You already have a good farm system. Rather than get an early pick, trade for someone or multiple blue liners that help you right now. If the idea is, playoffs or bust as Joe is implying, an early pick doesn’t help you get there.

by bigtill2002 on Apr 13, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know guys...

He has 273 points since coming here. Without him, how exactly do you have a balanced attack on offense?

To me, Mike Ribeiro and Brad Richards are the reasons the Stars are a threat to score with more than just one line. With Richards, Wandell, Petersen, and Benn(?) We’re right back to putting all of our eggs in the Richards line-basket. Like When Ribeiro was out and it just so happened to coincide with the ridiculously long road losing streak/bad stretch. It was partly because teams got the last change and only had to worry about Richards.

And the PP takes a hit.

They may have to move Ribs to improve in other areas of the ice, but it will have to be a hell of a move to make the team better as a whole.

And come out to practice. Come out to training camp. Ribs works as hard as anyone else out there. I don’t doubt his work ethic for one second.

(and how did a marty turco thread get on Ribs? ;) )

by Brad Gardner on Apr 13, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right...

I should get out to practice. Sure the points would suffer but I feel like they get evenly spread amongst the other centers. I feel like Wandell is very undervalued. But the value of Ribs on the trading block far outweighs the value he has as a Star. Especially on a Stars team that has the budget they currently do. As for Ribs on the Turco thread, Turco not being resigned is directly related as to how to get more defense in here.

by bigtill2002 on Apr 13, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Climie or a free agent

Climie, despite giving up 5 goals, had a solid performance against Chicago. He’ll likely be up here next season.

In other news, I hope Larsen makes the squad as well.

by Travis Drybread on Apr 13, 2010 12:01 PM CDT reply actions  

He looked decent and had an assist on one of the goals.

But he’s a defenseman and I think he needs more seasoning before we bring him up. We know what happened with Nisky. I don’t want to see the same thing happen to Larsen.

by TracyJean on Apr 13, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

You didn't notice him a lot, really

Which is a nice thing to say about a defenseman. They tried him on the PP a little bit (a little bit) and there’s nothing to write home about there. He could be a guy in the NHL for sure. Maybe not a special guy…but a guy. He needs some time in the AHL though, me thinks.

by Brad Gardner on Apr 13, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Better than being in the other hemisphere. We’d hear more about it him if he were down in Austin.

by Travis Drybread on Apr 13, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Better than Niskanen

I thought he looked good, given he hadn’t been with the team much. Got his first NHL assist.

by Travis Drybread on Apr 13, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

So he already...

Had a better season than Nisky? I kid, but Nisky just baffles me. I say we launch him along with Ribs and Daley. You could get a really nice return for those three and not lose much if anything at all.

by bigtill2002 on Apr 13, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nisky looks like

Will Smith used the flashy-thing from Men in Black on him after every game. He always looks lost out there.

by Travis Drybread on Apr 13, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

OH my wow...

that is the most awesome (and accurate) description of Matt that I’ve ever freakin’ head/read.

**Proof SOME rules are meant to be broken**

by PNLTBX on Apr 13, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Turco is a wonderful human being ...

… and it’s a shame he is hitting some sort of “wall” between the pipes. I hope a fresh start with a new team (in the East of course) gives him the mental rejuvenation he needs to become top-notch again.

by bones_boy on Apr 13, 2010 12:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, but how much of it is a "wall" and how much of it is the sloppy play in front of him?

It’s hard to say until we see how he rebounds next season – hopefully with a team with top notch defense. I want to see him in the East, too, because if he were in the West, I cannot honestly say I would root for the Stars over him (just like if Otter had gone elsewhere – divided loyalties). And there’s a part of me that wants him to show the Stars what they gave up…I kind of feel like they’re throwing out the baby with the bathwater. They have deeper problems than goaltending, but Marty’s the one who gets thrown under the bus. As I said in another thread, if they don’t improve the blueline, how long until Kari becomes the scapegoat?

by TracyJean on Apr 13, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we feel the same way...

Easily put, Marty got screwed and in turn we as fans got screwed. He deserves to retire a Star but will not get to because of a shady owner who never truly gave a damn about his hockey team. I think it’ll probably be about 2 years before we get back to our winning ways.

by bigtill2002 on Apr 13, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the Fond Memories Marty!

But the writing has been on the wall since they got Kari. You were a stand up guy both on and off the ice. A great teammate and representative of the Stars. One of the best to ever stand between the pipes as a Star. I hope you follow the career path of Patrick Roy … only in the East! ;^)

Hopefully this path works out best for all parties. Wishing you the best.

It will be interesting to see what Marty goes for in FA. Multiple years at $4mil or so aren’t out of the question, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see one year at $3mil or so … but as a #1 trying to earn a multi year deal. Either way no way the Stars would be anywhere close to that … they want to pay like $1mil for a true backup.

by 1paniolo on Apr 13, 2010 12:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Back to Marty...

I am going to miss him very much. Not always for the on-ice as much as the off-ice (him AND his family). There were lots of times he single-handedly (glove-ed-ly?) won games for us. We did not give him a whole lot of help in that department the last two seasons either.

I wish him the best and am thankful that I had the opportunity to say good-bye.

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by PNLTBX on Apr 13, 2010 12:53 PM CDT reply actions  

oh Joe...

Just want to (not) continue the praise on to new GM Joe. You began with the (not) best move of the year in getting rid of Tipp. Crawford has (not) worked out well for us this year! Now you continue your (not) hot streak of moves by removing a (not) fan hated player, Turco! So thanks Joe… Do (not) keep up the good work! I hope you (don’t) get rid of Ribs too!

by jdmhonda05 on Apr 13, 2010 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for the memories, Marty.

You were my hero after the 4OT Sharks game.

"It would've been a huge momentum boost if we had beaten the St. Mary's School for the Blessed, Blind, Deaf and Dumb."

Hockey nut since the night of 5/2/08. What a night it was.

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by Pat Iversen on Apr 13, 2010 2:46 PM CDT reply actions  

my favorite memory of him

is still that Game 5 at Detroit where he single handedly carried the Stars to the win while also beating some personal demons in that arena. If only we had been able to win one of those first 3 games in the series…we could’ve won that series.

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by MayurP on Apr 13, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm still bitter about that series. We were SO damn close.

But the 4OT game stands out to me a ton…he was ridiculous that night.

"It would've been a huge momentum boost if we had beaten the St. Mary's School for the Blessed, Blind, Deaf and Dumb."

Hockey nut since the night of 5/2/08. What a night it was.

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by Pat Iversen on Apr 13, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just rewatched that yesterday on NHL GameCenter Vault. Those were the days.

It has always amazed me that they didn’t have to carry Marty and Nabby out on stretchers after that game. At one point, they had a graphic on TSN about how many minutes some of the players had played. Zubie was #2 with almost 50 minutes (a Shark was #1). But nobody mentioned the goaltenders who were out there for the equivalent of 2 full games, plus 1/6th of a third.

Both of them were ridiculous that night, and when they met on the ice for the traditional handshake and were congratulating each other, they both had a look on their face that looked to me like they were thinking “that could have gone either way” (plus I’m sure a lot of relief that it was finally over).

by TracyJean on Apr 13, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’ve known this was coming for awhile, but it still makes me incredibly sad to hear the news. Thanks for everything, Marty. I don’t know where I’d be without the years if stress and the 2008 playoff glory. Thanks for keeping everything interesting and so “Turcolicious.”

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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Apr 13, 2010 3:26 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Marty

You will be sorely missed. I looked up to you as a fellow goalie. I learned how to balance athleticism, focus, and a simple “stay-the-F*!$-away-from-my-crease” attitude by watching your game. One of the more exciting and determined goalies to watch, and one of the best guys off the ice that this organization has seen. It will tough to watch this team without you. I hope you join my playoff bandwagon Capitals next year while we continue our stay in the gutters. All the best.

by agvdstars on Apr 13, 2010 5:11 PM CDT reply actions  

So sad about our Marty, ditto on the Caps wish

Whether you wish he could stay or are happy he’s going, I’d argue that the way he was sent off reflects poorly on the franchise. He deserves more recognition because of he’s treated the city and the team.

Could I get some people on board for a thank/you/good luck/miss your face Card-Sending Turcostravaganza?

Hockeydb says this address is good. Anyone have reason to believe otherwise?

by laurenb on Apr 13, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree. Him ending up on the Caps has been a secret fantasy of mine ever since the writing has been on the wall (see, I'm not completely in denial)

And I also am uncomfortable with how this has been handled. I can’t quite put my finger on all of it, although certainly some of Joe’s public comments haven’t helped (calling out Marty in January, while acting like our defense is the greatest thing since sliced bread and they just need a chance to “grow”).

And I like the card idea.

by TracyJean on Apr 13, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

When Nieuwendyk made those comments....

Turco was playing atrociously. Forget the defense (they were consistently bad all season). Turco was just playing horribly, and Auld wasn’t much better. Hell, they even benched Turco for a bit.

Nieuwendyk’s point was that for this team, with it’s young defense and the system they were trying to play…they needed better and more consistent goaltending. They weren’t getting it. He said as much.

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by Brandon Worley on Apr 13, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about this comment today?

""We’ve danced around the issue with Marty" This was said today. Sounds like stringing the guy (and fans) out and giving them false (however faint) hope.

by TracyJean on Apr 13, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

How is stringing him out?

The season ended two days ago.

When the team traded for Lehtonen, that was it. I know we all hoped for some sort of tandem thing for next season, but that was never going to work. Marty can make too much money somewhere else.

Nieuwendyk had to decide between young forwards and some new defensemen, and a 35 year old, $5 million goaltender. Blame Tom Freaking Hicks for that. He made the trade for Lehtonen, because this team needed some sort of option for next year. I applaud the move; at least he was proactive about it.

Did Marty Turco deserve better? Of course. Was he unfairly blamed at times? Of course…..but that’s what happens with goaltenders, quarterbacks, pitchers, etc. Just the nature of the position.

I’m just not sure what the Stars could have done differently.

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by Brandon Worley on Apr 13, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok now...let's not all act like Marty was infallible here.

Let me ask everyone here….just what the hell was Joe Nieuwendyk supposed to do?

The Stars can’t afford Marty Turco. That’s the reality. Nieuwendyk had to make a very tough decision, as he tries to move the team forward AND to keep them competitive on a limited budget. How does he do that? With decent, relatively cheap goaltending.

But…..Turco wasn’t exactly lights out this season either.

You can’t just say: well, if the defense in front of him was better he’d be here next season. He was inconsistent — along with the rest of the team — all season long. He still has it physically, but mentally he just wasn’t there night in and night out. You say, “what about the defense”… I say what about the debilitating soft goals allowed in the final minutes of a period, what about being incredible one night but soft the next?

It’s not all his fault, certainly. It’s not his fault the Stars couldn’t score in the shootout. It’s not Turco’s fault the Stars went into a slight rebuilding mode.

But for a team that needs to regroup financially, and on the roster, keeping Turco next season just doesn’t work. That’s the reality.

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by Brandon Worley on Apr 13, 2010 6:24 PM CDT reply actions  

I certainly don't think he's infallible and even though he is my favorite player, I've had moments when I've just wanted to jump over the glass and knock him upside the head with his stick.

But I can’t help feeling that he’s is, in Mike Modano’s words, being made a scapegoat and Joe really hasn’t done anything in his comments about the defense, calling out Marty in January and other things to make me feel otherwise.

by TracyJean on Apr 13, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok....

Tell me then.

What moves was Joe supposed to make for the defense this season? A big trade? For whom? Did you see what Toronto gave up for Dion Phaneuf?

Sheldon Souray is on the market. So is Tomas Kaberle. What are you willing to part with?

This summer the Stars will certainly look at improving the blue line, but I’m confused on what was expected for him to do this past season.

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by Brandon Worley on Apr 13, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I completely agree with you there....

Ribeiro is a strong possibility.

But during the season? There wasn’t anything there.

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by Brandon Worley on Apr 13, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

i wasn't looking

for any trade of that. i actually wanted him to stick with the D we had. I just wanted to D we had to develop they way they were looking 2 years ago. Niskanen looked like a sure thing future #1, and now I don’t know if he can play in this league. grossman and fistric have developed, but there is no offense from either one of them. robidas went cold, and so did every other defensemen (all of them were never “hot”) until daley turned it on with nothing on the line (like last year if you check the stats).

but is it completely implausible to sign both goalies at around 2.5 mil a year for the next two years? 5 million on a goalie is a joke. NO TEAM GETS BY WITH CHEAP GOALTENDING. that doesn’t exist. look at east: (Theodore, Brodeur, Miller, Fleury, Leclaire, Thomas). philly has about 5 goalies that make up the 5 million, and montreal hasn’t had the burden of resigning halak. now let’s look west: (Nabokov, Huet, Luongo, Brzygolov, Osgood/Howard (not 5 million, but will be after the year), LA (exception, but again, not when you have to resign Quick), NASH (again, Rinne and Ellis, the cost is gonna go up) and Anderson.

those are the playoff teams, and the majority are spending 5 million on their starter ALONE. i think marty would re-sign for 2.5. maybe i’m wrong. same for lehtonen. neither have proved they should be making more. so i disagree, i think they could financially do it. it comes down to Marty wanted to comeback to those circumstances.

And I’ll end on this note. We win half of the shootout games we lost this year, and we don’t even have this conversation. and from auld to turco to lehtonen, there is NO WAY you can possibly blame the goalies for that. This team was simply atrocious in the SO this year. WIn half of those OTLs, and we’re not even having this discussion.

by agvdstars on Apr 14, 2010 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Saturday, Marty spoke to the media before the morning skate and he said he could envision a scenario where he stayed with Dallas and played a tandem with Kari

Sounds like he was willing to talk and play with the numbers to make it work (I know he knows the financial situation). And when Joe makes a comment in his interview yesterday that “we’ve been dancing around the issue with Marty” it sounds (to me) like Marty’s been strung along (and the fans along with him) into thinking there was some hope, however faint it might have been. That pisses me off. To have Joe have made the decision this quickly, I don’t think he even talked to Marty or his people to see if there was some arrangement they could come to. Which is funny, because a couple of weeks ago, on one of the postgame shows, he sounded like he was willing to talk. They were going to “evaluate all their options in goal.” In fact, he sounded more like he was ready to turn the page on Mike than he was on Marty in that interview.

And yes, the SO is strictly on the shooters. The goalies save percentage was almost 75%, one of the best in the league. The shooters’ goal percentage was a measly 17%. I’m not sure where it ranks in the league, but I’m pretty sure it would be near the bottom.

Yesterday, ProHockeyTalk (although not Brandon) did a comparison of the playoff starting goalies. Go look at those numbers and throw Marty in there. He’s better than quite a few of them and comparable to Marc-Andre Fluery, who has gone to the Stanley Cup Finals two years in a row and won the cup last year. Marty is not as bad as some people think he is and he is not only one responsible for the fortunes of this team. And some have talked that Kari played so much better in goal at the end of the year. Well, not really, no. Throwing out the first three games after the break (defensive breakdowns, Marty was bad, Kari was bad), and they’ve both been arguably the best player on the ice for the Stars in the games they’ve played (the Colorado game is the outlier, even though Marty was pulled, wasn’t all on him, and Kari wasn’t that much better when he got in). Do you think San Jose wouldn’t have blown us out if Marty hadn’t been on his game in the shutout loss to them? Do you think we would have make it to the shootout against LA and Phoenix if not for how he was playing? And then Kari loses 3-1 to the Ducks (the Ducks!) and the same people who would have castigated Marty for the same result think its okay. Kari was probably the best Star on the ice that night, so no, I’m not blaming him.

Right now, and yes I know this is my perception, it feels like as quickly as they got rid of Marty, a large part of the blame IS being put on him for how the season went.

by TracyJean on Apr 14, 2010 5:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

yup

couldn’t agree more.

by agvdstars on Apr 14, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's not going to Detroit.

They have this guy there by the name of Jimmy Howard.

I can see him in Philly, for sure.

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by Brandon Worley on Apr 13, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, God. Yikes.

Yeah, I know they could use him, but Philly? That’s almost as bad as Detroit (only saved by the fact that they’re in the East).

by TracyJean on Apr 13, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Possible destinations for Turco:

Atlanta.

Philly.

Los Angeles.

Ottawa.

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by Brandon Worley on Apr 13, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Los Angeles? What about Quick and Bernier?

Atlanta – I could see him having the same problems as here. They aren’t exactly known for their defense either.

Ottawa, I don’t really know enough about them to say.

See my comments above about Philly.

by TracyJean on Apr 13, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Los Angeles....

Maybe a reach. Yeah…..it’s a reach.

Ottawa: Desperate, desperate need of solid goaltending.

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by Brandon Worley on Apr 13, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it a reach...

To think the Caps are a possibility? They still can’t seem to determine who they want between the pipes.

by bigtill2002 on Apr 13, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

CAPS

they’re not going to resign Theodore. Took a risk on Huet. Not completely confident with Varlamov.

And Pheonix really wouldn’t surprise me either. Brzy is an UFA at the end of next year and their financial situation isn’t that great. and i have a feeling turco kinda wants to stick it to dallas. i would.

and i wouldn’t rule out st. louis either. pretty close in proximity to dallas so he wouldn’t have to move the family.

by agvdstars on Apr 14, 2010 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

HAWKS

I really admire Turco, for all he did in his time with team and for the community. I am a stars fan through and through, and through this last chapter of stars, Marty was my favorite. With all that being said I will continue to pull for him wherever he goes.

I think Trks will land with a team that fails to reach their expectations for the playoffs, CAPS maybe, but I’d love to see him in a HAWKS jersey. They have a really young team with depth with a really strong defense. Ludwig said after the last home game what if Turco was to land somewhere and win a Cup?!?! I think if he goes to a team that is on the rise he’ll get his name on the cup once maybe twice.

by andes175 on Apr 16, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

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