Dallas Stars Sit 11th in Draft Lottery
The NHL regular season if officially over, and the "also-rans" like we Stars faithful are left pondering and pondering until our ponderers are sore. We're going to start tearing this thing down and examining just what the heck happened this year to a very healthy team, but we have to look forward a little bit too, which brings us to the draft.
The NHL will hold the draft lottery this Tuesday, April 13th at 7:00pm CDT on Versus (or TSN if you're lucky enough to get it.)
Now that the action has wrapped up, we can see that Dallas finishes 11th in draft order, and it's pretty unlikely to change as they have only a 1.5% chance of winning the lottery. Should that unlikely feat be realized, they could move up a maximum of 4 spots.
Here are the standings:
| Rank | Team | Points |
| 1 | Edmonton | 62 |
| 2 | Toronto (traded to Boston) | 74 |
| 3 | Florida | 77 |
| 4 | Columbus | 79 |
| 5 | Islanders | 79 |
| 6 | Tampa Bay | 80 |
| 7 | Carolina | 80 |
| 8 | Atlanta | 83 |
| 9 | Minnesota | 84 |
| 10 | Rangers (poor Rangers) | 87 |
| 11 | Dallas (hey, that's us!) | 88 |
| 12 | Anaheim | 89 |
| 13 | Calgary | 90 |
| 14 | St. Louis | 90 |
11th isn't as good as 8th last year, but once you get past the first few picks (and sometimes not even then) players can be kind of a crap shoot. This, however, is expected to be a pretty strong class. Not as strong as 2003, but close.
We haven't exactly heard what the draft strategy will be this year and if GM Joe will be looking for some defensive help (my personal preference) or just taking the best player available at the time.
Here are some early draft projections for the 11th spot...
Names you will see at or around the 11th spot include: D Derek Forbort, D Mark Pysyk, C Riley Sheahan, C Jeff Skinner, and others. I'm sure it will change a few times between down and then anyway.
D Derek Forbort comes up #10 on a lot of lists and the next best guy, Pysyk shows up anywhere from 11 to 20, so if the Stars want defense, those look like two names we could be talking about come late June. Forbort is reported to be a big guy at 6'5", a little bit of a late bloomer, and according to some, a pretty mobile big man.
NHL.com offers their series of mock drafts: Kimelman | Roarke | Holland | Morreale (most have the Stars getting Forbort at 11)
You can put around on hockeysfuture.com all day long. Great site.
MyNHLDraft.com has the Stars taking Jeff Skinner, a center from the OHL.
Read about how good the Oilers likely have it at #1 here.
Jon Merrill is often listed as the next defenseman behind the aforementioned two. He's a good American boy.
Can you tell I'd like to see new defensive prospects in this system? Still, there's something to be said for drafting the most talented player available to you. Raw talent can't be taught. If you have enough talent, you can flip it for the other pieces you need. It will be interesting to see how Nieuwendyk thinks this draft after a year on the job. Last years theme was speed.
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At #11....
You have to draft BPA…whoever is at the top of the list for the Stars.
I can see them going Forbort, although Jeff Skinner is starting to move up on a lot of lists. He’s a center, who put up a TON of goals in the OHL over the past few years. Problem is, he’s another one of those smaller type skill guys.
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Although....
He’s not that small. He’s not Austin Smith, Scott Glennie “small”……I think he’s playing this season at 5-10, 196. And he’s still real young, time to grow.
He’s a finisher, a pure goal scorer, but not an end to end guy. He’s just pure fun to watch in the offensive zone.
Midseason he was in the 15-22 range, may be climbing a bit higher now.
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by Brandon Worley on Apr 12, 2010 8:07 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I love talking draft.
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by Brandon Worley on Apr 12, 2010 8:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Size
They always talk about guys as small, then they list stats of like 5-10 and 200. If he’s 17-18 he’s still probably gonna get another inch or so, and that gets him into what I think of as average range for hockey players. I have no idea where I can go to look up the average height and weight of a pro hockey player…. I’ll see if NHL ‘10 will let me get a mean from it;p
But speaking choosing BPA, and then talking about size, I feel the most skilled guy isn’t always the best choice. Marty St. Louis is not the norm, so for every highly-skilled prospect who’s undersized at 5’6-5’7, you’re far more likely to get a Primadonnakov who can’t take a hit, than you are going to get an impact player with enough skill to offset that leverage disadvantage.
I wonder how good Pavel Bure would have been in today’s NHL…
by Waywardstars on Apr 12, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm. Pavel’s listed at 5’10’ 189…. I always thought he was smaller… maybe he just played a softer skill game than was the norm back in the 90s…
by Waywardstars on Apr 12, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
East
This year is probably just an anomaly and it’s only noticeable because it’s right now…. but I sorta wish they’d alternate draft position based upon conference standings… Edmonton first, then Toronto, then Colombus, then Florida. We oughta be drafting 7th or 8th, not 11th.
A top 10 pick seems to be a huge question mark. I think the only time you can feel assured of at least getting a player who will play in the NHL is the 1 to 3 spot. Of course, you will still get players who don’t work out. And the flip side of a 1 to 3 spot is enduring a really terrible year. I wonder if we have the intestinal fortitude to endure a season like Toronto or Edmonton, I mean review our frustration with this year… Imagine the level of suckitude needed to achieve worse than 27th place with how bad the East was…
Mark Pysyk
I’ve seen a fair amount of him of course this year… if the Stars can get him, I’d be very very tempted to take him unless Niederreiter is available.
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Forbort
is only 18, playing for the US18 team. Kid’s got tons of potential. We need size on the back end.
I think I heard that somewhere
That Joe loves a little size on the back end.
by Brad Gardner on Apr 12, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt that
his wife is very thin
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Huh?
I was talking about the defense!!
by Brad Gardner on Apr 13, 2010 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions
BPA would make sense, but...
You have to go BPA, but GM Joe doesn’t. Remember last year? After Glennie, who was a reach, he rattled off how many straight right-handed right wings?
I’m starting to think Joe might go the way of Mr. Lawton…
I've heard varying reports about Pysyk
I don’t think I like taking him at 11.
If all four of Gudbranson, Gormley, Folwer and Forbort are gone you hope some amazing offensive stud falls to you or you trade back. Overreaching for a non top ten d-man prospect makes no sense. There will be a couple of good ones available with their 2nd pick.
Nino, Etem, or Connolly if he falls that far would be interesting. Its going to depend on who goes ahead of Dallas.
Had Toronto not taken him at 7, Kadri would be a Star right now so there’s no telling what Niewy and company will do.
That said Glennie, Chaisson, and Vincour have all had great seasons so far and look like good selections. I trust Les Jackson far more than I do anyone else in this front office.
Well, his vowel-spurning name would be mildly terrifying to casual hockey fans...
The WHL has an impressive number of clips and brief interviews up, incl. Pysyk interview: http://www.whl.ca/Easton-WHL-Radio-Show-s11270
Any chance of the Stars moving up?
Would Ribs + their 1st give them a 2nd or 3rd pick?
Or they could trade down and make someone take Niskanen. :P Sorry, someone had to say it.
They need a scorer
I, for one, hope they can land either Nino Neiderreiter or Emerson Etem. Not so high on Connelly as he has injury issues.
Ya, they need defense, but only if they can move up. Fowler or Gormley (who I would pick if available) won’t be there past the 6th pick.
by Travis Drybread on Apr 13, 2010 11:51 AM CDT reply actions




















