Gameday Thread: St. Louis Blues @ Dallas Stars
by Brad Gardner on Mar 4, 2010 6:15 PM CST
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Game 63: St. Louis Blues @ Dallas Stars
Thursday, March 4th, 2010 · 7:30 p.m. CT
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Well, big, big game tonight considering the roadtrip.
"It would've been a huge momentum boost if we had beaten the St. Mary's School for the Blessed, Blind, Deaf and Dumb."
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It it Marty
Kari on Saturday it sounds like.
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
Hello from section 319!
Let’s go Stars!
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by RyanM on Mar 4, 2010 7:13 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I wish I had a shirt...
Can’t afford one.
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by RyanM on Mar 4, 2010 7:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I still have to get mine...
But I’m not too worried because there is still time to get one…
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
Good to see Robie without the cage.
Also a bit odd. Happens every time I start to get used to it….
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I would like to take this opportunity
To complain about the service in the Jack daniels club
by Brad Gardner on Mar 4, 2010 7:29 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I wouldn't know.
"It would've been a huge momentum boost if we had beaten the St. Mary's School for the Blessed, Blind, Deaf and Dumb."
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I have the Blues broadcast.. which sucks.
But at the very least the color guy is Darren Pang, so that’s not so bad.
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Marty got a new ATV
And his babysitter is hot
by Brad Gardner on Mar 4, 2010 7:40 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Pat...
Wouldn’t you say this is a horrible misuse of Jami benn?
by Brad Gardner on Mar 4, 2010 7:45 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'll get back to you on that ;)
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Ok...
I like the new camera. Just sayin
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I agree. It's awesome
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Wait, how does Ribs get a penalty for that??
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What the hell was that penalty for?
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I have to say
I have many issues with these lines
by Brad Gardner on Mar 4, 2010 7:54 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Aaand Barch is fighting.
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And getting his face beat in.
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 7:56 PM CST up reply actions
Again...he really just needs to leave King alone.
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Uh Morrow....what kind of a pass was that?
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Great.
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Ugh.
That’s ok defense.. Turco can TOTALY see what is going on with a Blue in front of him like that.. Don’t worry about getting him out of the way or anything.
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Watch how long I do it...
If they keep allowing to let players in stand in front of the net like they have for the last six goals against, I’ll keep blaming them because they aren’t doing their job.
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 8:04 PM CST up reply actions
It almost happened AGAIN. Can we PLEASE just have SOMEONE fight in front of the net?
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JAMIE BENN!
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TKO!!!!!!!!!!
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BENN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Clocked him
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Been was ALMOST losing this fight...
But then came back with the big right hand!!
One punch TKO!
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WOW.
I’ve been waiting for a Benn fight all year…and that was so satisfying.
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Way to go, Jamie!
I knew he had that in him!
Otter looked a little worried there about Jamie boy.
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by Brandon Worley on Mar 4, 2010 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
Otter must not watch Benn on YouTube :)
… which makes sense, though. :D
i was pulling up my driveway
when i heard jamie benn jacked some faces.
waiting for a replay.
They look scared
Oh wait they scored!
by Brad Gardner on Mar 4, 2010 8:13 PM CST via mobile reply actions
LOUI!
That was a PERFECT play.
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Alright, seriously Richards, stop with that spinorama nonsense.
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DAMNIT
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DEAR LORD TURCO
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LEHTONEN LEHTONEN LEHTONEN LEHTONEN
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Wow. Just wow.
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by RyanM on Mar 4, 2010 8:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I just remembered
I left my stove on…
by Brad Gardner on Mar 4, 2010 8:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Okay: second goal. Excuseable.
Third goal: Ridiculous.
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The ones that were the defense's fault are still the defense's fault.
The ones that were Turco’s fault are still Turco’s fault. And Auld is still a mediocre hot potato.
Does this team even want to make a push to get into the playoff.
Gotta have hockey!
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Wow I leave for a few minutes and Turco decides to let in two softies...
This team is just one step forward, two back.
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This reminds me of the game where Auld gave up a goal seconds after Brunnstrom scored to tie it up.
Except this is double buzzkill.
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Well, at least we gave some fight at the end.
And good to see that Brenden Morrow seems to be back to normal.
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wow
I am definitely not one to place all the blame on the goaltender….tonight I am…that was all kinds of terrible
SuggestingDefendingBigD.com?
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
PleaseStartDefendingBigD.com?
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
IfItIsn'tTooMuchTroubleCanYouStartDefendingBigD.com?
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
Whatexactlydoyoumeanbydefendingbigd.com?
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When I started the blog...
The Stars were known for their defense.
And then……yeah.
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by Brandon Worley on Mar 4, 2010 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
Well, now it's like the Aggies and that reason they stand up the entire time, only not dumb.
We’re volunteering because someone has to do it? :D
Well
we should take heart that we’re the only thing in Dallas associated with the word ‘defending’
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Very true..
I mean, we’ll know the Mavs will never be associated with anything close to defending.. :)
(I really shouldn’t talk, the Spurs are as frustrating as the Stars this season, if not more so..)
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
Haven't the Mavs won like...25 games in a row?
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by Brandon Worley on Mar 4, 2010 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
All offense, my friend.
And I guess I’m forgetting about Elvis Andrus’ defense…..but the Rangers technically aren’t in Dallas haha
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The Cowboys defense is...alright...
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by Brandon Worley on Mar 4, 2010 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
Arlington. So DQed.
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The sad part?
This period was a better effort from this team than at any time on Tuesday.
And it still wasn’t very good.
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What will you do with yourself...
Once Lehtonen lets in his first soft goal.. possibly on Saturday?
Just wondering. ;)
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
I mean..
There is a reason why the Stars were able to get Lehtonen for a relatively cheap price…
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
My money is on bitter snark
Think my money’s safe.
Woohoo
This baby is a playoff contender! What solid goaltending and defense. Nothing can stop them now!
The Stars depress me.
Then...
Quit watching them. That attitude is a contributing factor to their losses as well. No fans in the seats and when they are they aren’t cheering. Real fans know that anything can happen in 40 minutes of hockey.
you are not serious with this nonsense
why would anyone pay to watch effort like this? I love the stars but the players have to give some effort if they want respect.
Tell that to the people of Toronto and see what kind of response you get.
We go to the games to see hockey and support the Stars. We go to our friends’ kids games to see hockey and support them. And let me assure you they are not always very pretty.
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in a hockey mad city of 7 million
getting 18k isn’t that hard
in a football mad city of dallas, a front running sports city like dallas that’s just not going to happen. heck in the 80s they black outed cowboys games because they weren’t selling out
This is not all Turco's fault. How about asking why Joe thinks our defense is A-OK
by TracyJean on Mar 4, 2010 8:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The title of this blog isn't
DefendingBigT.com last time I checked.
Turco is part of the defense and he deserves as much if not more blame thus far. Stop defending him.
If you would read up the thread
No one is holding Marty blameless. Consensus is that the third goal was all on him. Second is questionable, although it started with blown defense. First goal was on the defense.
How about you stop blaming Marty for the work (or lack thereof) of the entire TEAM?
by TracyJean on Mar 4, 2010 8:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
our defense is not perfect, but a good goalie could help cover that fact up.. sadly turco is no longer a good goalie
born to destroy
Eh...
Again, I haven’t seen a black jersey in our crease all night unless it was to deflect one in our own goal.
Ok fair enough..
So for you and IrishP1 who seem to be leading the anti-Turco bandwagon..
Give me three goalies who are available to the Stars that we KNOW would do a better job.
This is your chance to be taken seriously I might remind you…
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
If you don't have any solutions...
Then maybe you shouldn’t keep asking the questions then.
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
Someone has to ask them.
Cause I don’t see anyone in the media doing it. Gimme a mic and I’ll ask anything you want me to, within reason.
Because
Auld is a backup for a reason, and Letohnen(sp?) probably hasn’t played an NHL game since Zubie has.
No....
I have a crush on goalies that are 125% healthy and can go in to a game that is out of hand like Tuesday and tonight. Lehtonen isn’t this.
So you suggest keeping three goalies???
or not having lethonen at all?
or not having a starting goalie?
Who is the Stars back up goalie right now? A: Lehtonen
Can he play right now @ 8:40pm on Thursday, March 4th, 2010? No one knows that answer.
Then let's wait until we see him Saturday before we jump to any conclusions, yes?
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I found that goalie!!
In effing fairy tale land where I have that money tree in my yard and the supermodel in my bedroom.
+1
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Buffalo is a maybe.
Pitsburgh a loss, same with Washington, but I’d bank on beating Pittsburgh over Washinton.
But, you never know.
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I did notice a trend.
In how this team plays with it’s back against a wall. Took two from San Jo already so nothing is impossible.
Ok. I just don't get it.
Why do you people watch the Stars and comment here If you hate them so much?
Turco is here until the summer. Get over it.
The Defense is not good enough and will not be getting any help until maybe the summer. Get over it.
GM Joe is doing the best he can with what he is given to work with. He isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. Get over it.
This used to be a fun place to hang out and watch the games, even when losing. But now it’s nothing but complain, whine and complain some more.
This is the team we have for now. GET OVER IT.
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Myra wins.
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Ummm
I don’t hate the Stars, I actually like the Stars which is why I’m pissed that a JV GM has screwed this thing up.
how did joe screw it up?
he basically had HALF an offseason.
give him another season before you throw him under the bus
Well
Didn’t upgrade the G position when given the opportunity.
Poor decision on firing Tipp and hiring Crawford.
Didn’t upgrade the D in the offseason when everyone in the world knew it was a problem.
Gave a bad extension to an average player (Ott) handcuffing the team even more financially.
When faced with the fact that his team is not that good, he did nothing to upgrade it or to move pieces for assets.
In fact, I can’t think of much good he’s done.
-He signed Lethonen. I consider that a possible upgrade (we wont know until after a couple of weeks)
-I agree on Tippet but I believe he thinks if he is gonna lose he is gonna lose with the crew he chooses not the crew he inherits.
-Agree with not upgrading the D but he does not really have any wiggle room with salary.
-Would you rather lose Ott and lose the heart of the team? Have you watched this team play when Ott is injured?
Ummm
I don’t consider an injury prone goalie who costs $3m an upgrade.
I would rather lose Ott than have to lose either Neal or Grossman because their new salaries won’t fit under the budget and I’d rather lose Ott and have more cash to sign a defenseman in the offseason. You say that it wasn’t Joe’s fault that he couldn’t upgrade the D because of the budget and then he signs a player to a contract he doesn’t deserve, hurting the ability to get D help.
Ummm
Ummm, he’s had a full season of move possibilities. He’s had the summer, a draft and a trade dealine to deal with and he failed in helping this team.
A year does not a GM make. Or however it goes.
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Sure it does.
It does when everyone and their mother knows the weaknesses and the GM does nothing.
Well...
I don’t think there was that big an opportunity to really upgrade the goaltending position. Did you see any big name goalies moved yesterday? NO? So when the Stars would try and get one, the price would be MONSTROUSLY high.
And Joe has a low number of draft picks next year, and he’s trying to rebuild long term. He needed to get draft picks, not give up young prospects and future draft picks.
Same thing with goaltending. Kaberle? Not moving. Souray? Out for season. Visnovsky? Could be had, but apparently Stars didn’t have enough.
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by Brandon Worley on Mar 4, 2010 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
Ok
Ok, I would have preferred to roll with Turco and Auld then waste money and an assett on getting Lethonen. With Lethonen you gave up a young player for an injury prone expensive player who you don’t know can be your starting goalie next season even though you are now committed to him.
I have no problem giving up players for more picks, not young players. In fact, I think I’m the won who advocated giving up Turco for any pick and was shouted down.
I’m also talking about during the past offseason. He knew the defense was a problem and signed Woywika and Skrastins. Talk about inspiring.
so what would happen in the offseason
when auld AND turco were UFA?
With what money did he have to spend on a defenseman?
Also, don’t react to Lehtonen just yet. There’s no doubt he has all the potential in the world to be great. And I’ve heard from many sources that Vishnovskiy’s stock was in decline.
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by Brandon Worley on Mar 4, 2010 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
Cash
A good GM can find a way around money problems. The Stars had players with moderately high salary who could have been traded. And since money is a problem, why is he wasting 3m per season on a player like Ott? I have no problem trading Vish, it’s the return that is the problem. This team can’t take a risk on a player like Lehtonen. They have money issues so they can’t afford to spend $3m on an injury prone goalie. It is basic economics 101, proper allocation of a scarce resource. Joe gets an F- so far.
They cant take a risk on Lethonen BUT
apparently they can take the risk on having two goalies that are UFA going into the offseason
That
That isn’t a risk. Auld’s are available every offseason. There will always be goalies available for trade that don’t cost $3m and aren’t injury prone.
and apparently Auld can lead a team to the playoffs?
if that was the case he would have remained the starting goaltender
Nope
But he’s a servicable backup, something that every team needs.
but what about a starting goalie?
lets play russian roulette in the offseason i guess
Already doing that...
Joe’s already doing that, but it comes with a $3m price tag.
but if he doesnt work out these last games we have to option to
NOT SIGN HIM NEXT SEASON
i find that a little less risky
Six of one, half dozen of another. Except in your scenario, the Stars traded an asset that could have been used in another trade.
im done talking about this
i respect your opinion but i wholly disagree
k im done for now
we dont see eye to eye and i respect your opinion but i disagree
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
i’m tired of everyone complaining so much when we lose and not praising enough when we win.
Just a question
Are there community guidelines anymore?
There are still guidelines..
And no one is breaking them. There’s no personal attacks, that I see.
It’s just a rough time for Stars fans.
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by Brandon Worley on Mar 4, 2010 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
Ok, I trust your judgement
It just sucks to watch the Stars struggle and flip back over here to see all the cattiness and goading. Double-whammy, if you will. :)
It's tough.
And I left at a bad time for the Stars. I’m sorry about that.
And yeah, I’m not a big fan of all of the hand wringing myself. It’s just the nature of the blog getting bigger while the Stars struggle.
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by Brandon Worley on Mar 4, 2010 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
Gah.
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LEHTONEN
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*facepalm*
Well here comes Kari…
Into the fire ya go!
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Look at those pads.
Not even broken in yet.
And he had a rough morning at practice.
This should be interesting.
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Could this game get any more interesting?
I don’t think I can stand it.
by TracyJean on Mar 4, 2010 8:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Hopefully this fires up the team...
Because they haven’t played very inspired… If this doesn’t do it, nothing will.
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Ya know what.. I figured it out.
I’m the problem…
Every time I’m set to do a game recap.. the Stars usually more often than not lay an egg.
I’m a jinx apparently. lol
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Well if they can score one here to make it 4-2
Before the end of this period.. I won’t give up complete faith on the third period…
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 8:48 PM CST up reply actions
Quck question
How come Otter doesn’t take more faceoffs? This could be the dumb Texas hockey fan in me but wouldn’t they put him in the circle more since he wins so many?
That's what I've kind of liked a bit when we were playing Benn at Center.
He gets kicked out of a draw, in comes Ott.
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Stars are playing better...
So maybe the goalie switch has helped in that way.
Now they need to finish.
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Gotta start somewhere
Suffice to say, if the Stars have any designs on coming back, it needs to start with this next power play.
So hey dead horse, now that we're done beating you...
If the rumors are true, I don’t think I’d mind a Ribs trade. And I know, it sounds assenine to say.
A trade won't happen for a while now...
So no need to beat those horse either.
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 8:52 PM CST up reply actions
as much as i love him
i think we have enough offensive talent to last so i would not mind trading Ribs
Same for me
I like him but if he has a strong end of the season, ship him out with Nisky, and you have a bad ass 1st line d man on your hands
what happens if you trade ribeiro and
richards doens’t re-sign because he has no interest in playing for a middling team?
Is Benn better at center than wing?
IS wandell a true 2nd line center?
do you really want those to be your centers? cause that screams worst team in the league to me.
Oh well so much for that power play
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crombeen
can someone remind me why we let this guy go through waivers!?
HullJack tried to get sneaky.
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by Brandon Worley on Mar 4, 2010 8:53 PM CST up reply actions
Back to back PPs
Aaaaaand nothin.
Stars really could have used something there.
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This beer is too expensive to cry in
by Brad Gardner on Mar 4, 2010 8:54 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Pour it on Niskanen's head.
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ahhhh
stupid stupid stupid. thats all I have to say about letting go of that guy.
I'm curious about this
Has anybody seen the stats on Crombeen? He seemed disposable to me but I haven’t paid attention since he left.
going by GVT
He’s roughly been equivalent to Matt Niskanen, Fabian Brunnstrom, and Brian Sutherby this year.
Is it my imagination
or has Ribeiro been the best forward the past five games or so? Maybe it would be worth putting him on a top line with Richards?
I agree, he's been on fire since coming back...
but I wouldn’t want to break up that top line.
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crombeen
Well, I go to college in Missouri so I get to watch a lot of Blues games…He actually reminds me a lot like Stu with the kind of things he brings to the game…but a bit bigger
Need a PP goal here..
Please?
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Here we go again....another power play
by TracyJean on Mar 4, 2010 8:58 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Too damn fancy...
And no pucks on net.
Towards them yes.. but not on.
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People are packing up their stuff...
Getting ready to bail
by Brad Gardner on Mar 4, 2010 8:59 PM CST via mobile reply actions
giving me somethign to root for
would help. I could get behind kids. I could get behind a reclamation project. I could get behind some kind of plan but telling me the defense just needs time is insulting.
I agree
GM Joe ain’t helping with the “I think we’re good the way we are” When we all know he’s thinking “I need a payday loan to sign the player I want” One of the few times I’ll agree with Hull Fan
As poor as we have played tonight, let's give some credit to Mason.
He’s been on top of things tonight.
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Agreed.
Very solid work from him.
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
No, you're wrong
It’s all Nieuwy’s fault.
No, it’s all Turco’s fault.
No, it’s all Crawford’s fault!
Yeah, that’s it !!!!!!!!!
+1
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Partly right...
Partly Joe’s fault for roster construction; Turco’s fault for sucking; the D’s fault for forgetting the olympic break is over; and partly the Blues playing good hockey. Plenty of blame to go around.
No
There is very little to happy about in Stars land.
Starsland has had all the happy sucked right out of it. That's for sure.
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You forgot Morrow.
Otter’s contract.
Tom Hicks.
Whew. I can’t keep up with all the negatives.
Let’s just add every member of the team and coaching staff. All of management. Everyone at the AAC. The Mayor of Dallas.
And Jerry Jones.
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Can we blame Tyrell Owens?
Of course we can!!
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
Oh and I forgot!
Add Rick Perry and President Obama to the list. I’m sure they had something to do with it.
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EGADS
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And his damn acl. What a jerk.
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Oh wait.
I forgot to specifically call out NISKANEN AND BRUNNSTROM. Everyone’s most favorite whipping boys until Nieuwy got moved up.
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crombeen
I would say he is more than a grinder. He is like a utility guy, whatever he is he is definitely a guy that could have made us better
hmm...
yah, but more of a big body and less of a big mouth lol
Somehow
This is all Brunnstroms fault.
by Brad Gardner on Mar 4, 2010 9:06 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I was actually leaning towards C.J. Wilson, but I guess that too.
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Personally
I blame my mom for raising me in East Texas where no hockey was played. I’d be a 26 year old Texas verson of Sid the Kid had that not happened.
Long story.
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LMAO
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I apologize.
Although this comment made it’s way onto Twitter. It’s THAT great.
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This sir...was just awarded DefendingBigD Comment Of The Night.
By me. Unofficially. I just made that award up.
But still, bravo.
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Or ma'am.
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Nuh-uh. You are in so much trouble.
You have been warned. Repeatedly.
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:(
runs
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You better, boy. If I knew your middle name, I'd be using it right now.
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He's still on the team
And will probably still get some starts, in spite of the night he had.
So deal with it.
Yeah but there's something that depresses me to no end
This is how we’re sending off one of the greatest goalies this team has ever seen. It bums me out
Lehtonen
well maybe this provides a good chance to see what he can do with the rest of the season so we don’t just end up re-signing him blind?
I agree.
It is sad to see it end this way.
But it happens. Not everyone can go out like an Elway or Patrick Roy.
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Man i would hate for our little group here to live in Toronto
or maybe edmonton
I know!
Those hockey fans in Edmonton always overreact and are clearly insane when it comes to hockey!
Wait… what?
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
but we are like this when we are right on the edge of the playoff spots
not sitting at the very bottom already almost eliminated from the playoffs
It's the nature of the region
I see it from Dallas Cowboy fans, Texas Longhorn fans, and Oklahoma Sooner fans all the freaking time.
Fans that don’t realize 98% of fans from other teams would dearly love to trade histories with them.
I'm the opposite
be bad or be good but don’t be in the middle. At least I can get someone excited about a good pick.
What happened to all the scoring by the forwards.
They’re just not getting anything past the goalies. One or two goals a game just isn’t enough.
More scoring would help even if the defense isn’t playing so hot.
Gotta have hockey!
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I think it all comes down to the back end honestly….a better defense provides more time on attack and better passes out of our own end opening things up and not tiring everyone out in the neutral zone. I think even more than a true no.1 d-man this teams needs a PP QB.
Speaking of...
I was just thinking this team even though Morrow is the captain, doesn’t have a vocal leader.
I think they really should have tried to get Zubov to stay another season.
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I do not like these lines personally..
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Yep no matter how good or bad the D and goalie are playing
It doesn’t matter if the offense doesn’t score – see the two Columbus games as an example. Bad D and goaltending might be more palatable if we were putting the puck IN THE NET
by TracyJean on Mar 4, 2010 9:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nice save Kari!
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Nevermind.
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As I've been saying..
No goalie – I don’t care who you are – can make up for this defense.
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I'm with you but doesn't it feel like we're talking to a brick wall?
by TracyJean on Mar 4, 2010 9:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
GIVE ME KARI RAMO OR GIVE ME DEATH
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I WANT CURTIS JOSEPH. NOWWWWW
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DRYDEN + BRODEUR + TIME MACHINE + HUGE CENTRIFUGE
I win! :D
(I kid.)
This defense just isn't very good
And we’re stuck with them through the rest of the season.
Hence, no whining about it. But just like the other night during the podcast, I’m not happy about it.
I just realize there’s nothing that can be done about it right now.
so what can be said?
what do you want, if this site isn’t for venting and sharing opinions then what’s the point?
What is the point of beating a dead horse over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and.......
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then there's nothing to say and the comments should
be closed. why bother to have a site open to comments?
You apparently have no imagination. :P
But then, I live in the suburbs so what do I know.
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I'll be working saturday
I’ll write my treatise on how I would fix things and post it in the fanshots
And to expound on that
My post is directed more towards the posters who do nothing but tell us Turco, Niskanen, Skrastins, the defense, Crawford sucks…over and over.
Or people whose plan to rebuild the Stars consists solely of telling us who should be traded without any regard to the value the Stars might get in return…or what moves the Stars shouldn’t have made. I mean, really, we’re going so far as to question the move to send BJ Crombeen through waivers as a reason for this team’s ills?
C’mon.
BTW, I’ll look forward to that fanshot. Giving the state of this defense post-Olympic break, I’m all ears on your suggestion that Morrow should be traded to get some much needed defensive help in.
two possibles
that will be mentioned
Morrow for Jackson and Colton Tuebert
or Morrow for Ballard and Colby Robak
You will get an extra hug for that post, my friend.
Also, I wonder what the Canadians (people, not the team) would say to the idea of the Stars trading Morrow after his performance in the Olympics.
Oh Arrrtt!!!!
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Oh and also, could you explain how all the armchair quarterbacks know so much more than a whole slew of people
who have spent their entire lives in the business of hockey. It’s not just GM Joe making these decisions.
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Here's what's sad
It’s been mentioned before. But in this team’s short life, we’ve never seen it suck. This is a lot for us to deal with.
i was nine and an avid stars fan
BUT its hard to remember the feelings from back that far
Here's a reminder
http://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/DAL/1996.html
Mike Modano doubled up Greg Adams who was 2nd in pts.
how come
there were 44 players on that roster?
there were never 44 at one time
all those guys played at one point though, and half of them sucked.
nice guys though. i have fond Skate With The Stars memories.
well i knew they didnt all play at once
i didnt know if there was some huge overhaul half way through the season or a bunch of minor league players brought up.
funny thing though, looking at the roster you will find a bunch of those names on the stanley cup for the 99 season. So keep that in mind every time we talk about blowing up the team. We could be just two moves away from a SOLID team.
The ones that did were young for the most part.
Nieuwendyk was an in season pick up.
Sydor was an in season pick up.
When Brent Gilchrist is your 3rd leading scorer…kill yourself.
HA
but yeah i can see similarities in this team though. Minus two sure handed HOFers (mo and joe) we have a lot of upside. Basically a #1 and a #3 d-man and have Kari come through we should be right there in the mix of things yet again.
Long time ago though.
I’m going through this with my beloved Denver Broncos right now. It’s tough, because we’ve never been this deflated since forever, but we just gotta ride it out and trust things will get better.
After all, isn’t that how sports go? You have to go through the lows to get to the ups..
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I saw plenty of suck in 1988-89..
At least things aren’t THAT bad…
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
boy
kari is a little bit of a chunker aint he
Kari has looked solid so far.
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I DISAGREE. HE LET IN A GOAL THEREFORE HE SUCKS. :P :P :P
Oh lookie it’s a new dead horse to beat!!!!!!!!
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NO NO NO NEVER NO NO NEVER
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* another face palm *
The good news? Skrastins finally took out his man in front of the net..
The bad? He did it way too aggressively and is nailed for two because of it.
Progress!
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You don't know me that well then. ;)
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
Though you would have no reason
to know this its actually Ms. blowupthefranchise. And I don’t want to get rid of everyone I just want to get rid of like half of it.
well they're kinda
stuck with him and honestly I’d rather keep Ott than Morrow at this stage so I don’t have an issue with him per say even if I dislike his new contract.
His contract
Was cheap. About 29 other teams were willing to offer more than that. Home team discount.
That theory cannot be proven
/end Greggo voice.
I highly doubt people were lining up to give him 12 mil with the cap possibly shrinking.
Yeah it is
Especially when that agitation has the leading faceoff percentage and puts what little asses that are still into Stars hockey in the seats. Not to mention, if we’re overpaying for him, other teams would have over overpayed for him.
Agreeing to disagree is giving up
There would be less people if Otter wasn’t there. If you couldn’t tell, he’s my favorite player.
I'll be sure to tell those other 6000 or so that are there when we go on the weekends,
that they are all invisible. Or maybe figments of my imagination. Yeah. That must be it.
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I don't hate otter
I think he’s got value but not that kind of value on a team with a budget and serious issues on the defense.
This team’s budget disappears in about a year. After that, we’ll be spending to the cap. And it’d be different if your agitator didn’t have Captain’s potential.
You don't know that either
just because a guy buys the team doesn’t mean they’re going to automatically spend an extra 10 million especially on a team that isn’t winning. if the rebuild spending more money will just we wasteful.
No, we don't know that but it's rare that a new owner doesn't come in prepared
to spend more money to get a winning team. A winning team means profits.
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Going to be a looooooooooong DART ride home.
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by RyanM on Mar 4, 2010 9:47 PM CST via mobile reply actions
One positive?
PK has been ok. 5 for 5..
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Sorry
4 for 4
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by Art Middleton on Mar 4, 2010 9:47 PM CST up reply actions
Another lack luster performance...
…and Turco will take the brunt of it. He definately wasn’t on his game, but come on, a little support would be nice. I agree with Art_M from above – no goalie can make up for this crap defense. Maybe more than a handfull of shifts of hustle.
Ok my cable just froze...
Maybe that’s my TVs way of saying I need to stop watching.
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Time to start a new saying
GET BACK IN THE NET LEHTS
So, Art, have fun with this recap...
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Check much?
Sooooo do any of Dallas’ defensemen understand that women’s olympic rules don’t apply here? You’re actually allowed to body check boys!!! Looks like the team could use a little 5 hour energy!!! As Razor would say, “This is vomitorious!!!”
Bill Oellerman's Announcement just now
Is the second best thing about this game.
by Brandon Bibb on Mar 4, 2010 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
REFUND!!!
I want my $140 for Center Ice refunded, I’m sure HSG can afford that right? Hahahahaha, j/k. I guess its suffering through seasons like these that will make the next CUP just that much better.
Hey Brad
Why do you think that is? I know the defense and goaltending are subpar. But when you look at our top 6 forwards, plus Otter, the experience of Mo and Lehts, the scrappy Petersen, and the “offensive” system of Crawford, how can they not average 3-4 goals a game? Is it, as someone mentioned before, having to play so much D because our Dmen are subpar?
We were averaging 3-4 goals a game back in Oct-Nov with the same guys.
What happened to them? They’ve all but disappeared. They’ve reappeared briefly here and there, but they’ve mostly been absent. We need those guys back if we’re going to have a chance at all.
Someone remind me again how Marc Crawford still has a job?
This isnt a talent issue anymore. This is a preparation and scheme/coaching thing thats not working. Crawford goes and we get a real coach and maybe we make the playoffs. If he doesnt and is kept we go no where and we continue going no where next season.
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