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Stars Update: Fistric, Ott Practice as Dallas Gets Back to Work

Kari Lehtonen, pictured above, participated in his first practice on Frisco ice Friday.

The Stars returned to the ice in Frisco today and went through a light one hour workout, 4 days before their first game back from the Olympic break. The Olympians already ousted from the games were not there yet, and are apparently being given until Monday to return to practice and rest their tired bones. Jere Lehtinen was sent packing by the Americans today and should rejoin the team Monday or Tuesday. I spoke with Mike Heika at practice and he speculated that should Morrow play in the gold medal game, he won't be expected back until the morning skate on Tuesday, the day of the Kings game.

It's tough to say much about a new goaltender after seeing one practice. The thing that struck everyone the most was: "Yeah, he is big." Other than that, a lot of insight's not going to be gleaned from a light practice. I don't know how the players feel about him, but from the other side of the glass, and with Marty smiling and having fun, it seemed like Lehtonen was "the other guy" out there. That's probably just me projecting my own feelings onto the situation...but the whole thing just seems like it would be tense. Hopefully it motivates Marty Turco.

Steve Ott skated with Marc Crawford before (organized) practice got going and had themselves a little chat. Oh, to be the proverbial "fly on the wall" there... Ott looked healthy, and participated in every drill. I spent the whole time wondering if I'd ever seem him there again. Cross your fingers.

Mark Fistric looked as healthy as ever and skated the entire hour. He had his knee scoped and missed the Stars last three games before the break. The Morning News reports that Sutherby's shoulder is still bothering him.

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Hopefully the tenseness will ease up...

….because I’m REALLY hoping Turco will be open to helping teach Kari a few things. I don’t expect him to tutor him for hours after practice, but I’d like to think the two of them will be able to communicate well.

Y’know, since they’re the two we’ll depend on for a playoff push and everything.

"It would've been a huge momentum boost if we had beaten the St. Mary's School for the Blessed, Blind, Deaf and Dumb."

Hockey nut since the night of 5/2/08. What a night it was.

by Pat Iversen on Feb 26, 2010 7:37 PM CST reply actions  

Like I said

The tenseness was perceived by me.

There may be no tension at all for all I know.

by Brad Gardner on Feb 26, 2010 7:58 PM CST reply actions  

I know

I just feel like this is a pride thing for Marty, and I have a feeling he might not want to work with Kari.

Of course, I have absolutely no idea what goes on in the locker room or how Marty thinks, so this is just pure speculation and gut feeling on my part. It’s probably just the ‘new guy at first practice’ awkwardness today.

"It would've been a huge momentum boost if we had beaten the St. Mary's School for the Blessed, Blind, Deaf and Dumb."

Hockey nut since the night of 5/2/08. What a night it was.

by Pat Iversen on Feb 26, 2010 8:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

But it's not his first practice

Lehtonen was with the team in Phoenix and participated in the morning skate, even though he didn’t dress for the game.

by TracyJean on Feb 26, 2010 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Right.

But the awkwardness is still there, y’know? It’s like the new kid in class in elementary school, it’s awkward for the first few days. I’m sure it’s the same with any trade, really. But especially when he hasn’t been traded before….

I don’t know, I think I’m rambling tonight.

"It would've been a huge momentum boost if we had beaten the St. Mary's School for the Blessed, Blind, Deaf and Dumb."

Hockey nut since the night of 5/2/08. What a night it was.

by Pat Iversen on Feb 26, 2010 9:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Although you know, I just checked out the pictures of the practice at ASP

and it looked like some of the guys were having a little too much fun. Brad Richards and Krys Barch taking a shot at playing goaltender? And Marty playing forward with Brad in goal?

Although I would have liked a different angle shot of the picture of both Marty and Kari. You could see Kari, but Marty was facing away from the camera. Oh, to be a fly on the wall…although for all we know, they may have been snickering about their teammates’ ttempts to play their position.

by TracyJean on Feb 26, 2010 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

And I've been there, done that

My dad was in the Army, so I was always the new kid in school

by TracyJean on Feb 26, 2010 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Mens hockey players celebrating with beer and cigars would have been tired and lame

Womens team players celebrating with beer and cigars? Awesome-larious. Many women who gravitate to contact sports enjoy flouting expectations and use humor to defuse stereotypes. It probably would have been better for the team if they’d kept it in the locker room, but as a woman with more than a little dude energy in my psyche, I’m happy I got to see pictures of it. :)

by laurenb on Feb 26, 2010 8:18 PM CST reply actions  

Part of the perceived problem with the whole thing

is 1) the IOC is a stick in the mud to the N-th degree (see all the controversy over the goalies masks) and 2) one of the Canadian players chugging beer is underage in the province of British Columbia (where the drinking age is 19, not 18). Me, I don’t have a problem with it, but to be a member of the IOC, you apparently had to have your sense of fun and humor surgically removed before you accepted the position.

by TracyJean on Feb 26, 2010 8:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Just what i was going to say

although i dont really care, it is not what you want an Olympic athlete to display to young girls who look up to them. Smoking cigars and underage drinking on national tv is not a good thing to convey to young minds. It is unfortunate that this became such a big issue, as it would have been fine in the dressing room, but it is what it is.

by modano9 on Feb 26, 2010 8:27 PM CST up reply actions  

*NB:

I should have said “male athletes” in the title… seems like male hockey players tend to be pretty decorous compared to their peers, so it seems like an odd comparison. The womens team appeared to be having a toned-down rugby party.

by laurenb on Feb 26, 2010 8:23 PM CST up reply actions  

As for any perceived tension at practice...

I’ve never gotten any sense that Marty Turco is that kind of person. For instance, check out the Dallas Morning News blog for Auld’s comments about the current situation and what he has to say about working with Marty. Remember how good his relationship was with Mike Smith? Combine that with Marty’s public comments since the trade went down, and it just confirms what I’ve always thought about the kind of person Marty is. I’m sure he remembers all the tension with Eddie and, whether consciously or subconsciously, has resolved not to be like that. Hopefully he can lead by example to smooth over any tensions with the rest of the team. If he’s loose and having fun in practice, that honestly sounds like a good sign, not a bad one.

Also, remember that Kari Lehtonen did participate in the morning skate the morning of the Phoenix game. Didn’t seem to affect the team too much that evening, did it? I think everything will be fine, especially now that Marty doesn’t have the uncertainty of the trade deadline hanging over his head and wondering if he will be here tomorrow. And I think that, provided Kari remains healthy (knock on wood – I do want him to work out for the good of the team), he will provide a good push for Marty to remain on the run that he is on for the rest of the season and push Dallas into the playoffs.

by TracyJean on Feb 26, 2010 8:47 PM CST reply actions  

I know I'm an old fuddy duddy for saying this but....

Smoking and binge drinking are not the type activities I want my 12-year-old daughter to aspire to. Therefore not the type activity I want put on display by Olympic athletes and especially women athletes that I would otherwise like to be able to hold up as an example to my daughter.

Whether they like it or not, as Olympic gold medal winners they are role models or at least should be role models, not some local beer league celebrating winning a weekend tournament.

I know the general concensus is what’s the big deal? To me, they showed incredibly poor judgement. And as only one of them was underage, they were all old enough to know better.

Supporting your local ice troll, 24/7/365

by laughs2loud on Feb 26, 2010 8:58 PM CST reply actions  

That's probably the differences in our perspectives

I don’t have any kids. If I did, I’d probably feel the same way.

by TracyJean on Feb 26, 2010 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep.

We spend a lot of time re-enforcing the idea that you do not need to smoke or binge drink to have a good time and then you get this. How do the women hockey gold medalists celebrate? By smoking and binge drinking. Thanks for the help there, ladies.

**And please note that I am referring to “binge” drinking. I’m not a “tee-totaler” by any means. But I have no use for binge drinking under any circumstances. I don’t care what you are celebrating.

Supporting your local ice troll, 24/7/365

by laughs2loud on Feb 26, 2010 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Still seems a bit hyperbolic

Cans hardly facilitate/indicate binge-drinking. It takes 4-5 servings of alcohol in 2 hours to qualify as binge drinking within the definition used in published alcohol studies. With the metabolism on those women, there would have been cans everywhere. And If every kid who contemplated tobacco use took their first drag off a parejo, there would be very few smokers in the world.

You certainly seem like an intelligent person, I’m sure you’re raising kids who can recognize that hard-living advertising insults their intelligence. No sane child or adult looks at an athlete drinking/smoking and truly thinks they get to do that even a handful of times while maintaining elite conditioning.

Doubt the team knew they were being caught in the act. For me, the worst sin here is probably the intrusion into what appeared to be a private, once-in-a-lifetime repurposing of hard-won home ice. Oh well… Lago was a victim of the IOC’s fuddidudery too.

by laurenb on Feb 26, 2010 11:56 PM CST up reply actions  

My point was that we have tried to communicate that there are other ways to celebrate besides smoking and drinking to excess. (Is that better than "binge drinking"?)

Unfortunately, the actions of these Olympians contradict that by showing in this, the biggest win of their lifetime, they chose to drink and smoke. Therefore promoting it as THE way to celebrate.

Just for the record, they weren’t just drinking “cans of beer” but were also chugging bottles of champagne. They knew they were being photographed and videoed. I’ve seen posed pictures taken by professionals. And it was less than half an hour after the medal ceremony. The place was far from empty.

And yes, my daughter is intelligent enough to understand this is not acceptable behavior for her, however, I know A LOT of her classmates are not that perceptive and are much more concerned with being cool and fitting in.

Olympians aspire to be put on a pedestal quite literally. As such they are automatically considered role models by kids. Again, really bad choice by women who were old enough to know better.

Supporting your local ice troll, 24/7/365

by laughs2loud on Feb 27, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions  

You know what's great about this place...

Your comments are by far more entertainng than anything we could post.

You guys are awesome.

And I agree that marty turco wouldn’t cause or perpetuate any tension. I’m just saying the situation itself is ripe for it in general. I am mire interested in how the defense sees the guy that they will go into battle with next year versus the guy with whom they will battle in the short term.

Luckily professional athletes are able to focus on the task at hand much better than I. I’m sure the stars are ready, at least mentally, got the monumental task at hand.

by Brad Gardner on Feb 26, 2010 10:23 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

My iphone

Had some pretty unfortunate auto correction there.

*most interested.

by Brad Gardner on Feb 26, 2010 10:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I hope Dallas is focusing much better than the LA Kings will be

The Kings have 4 players in the gold medal game on Sunday (1 for Canada, 3 for USA), according to a handy little chart on NHL.com. Of course, one of those is Jonathan Quick, who isn’t seeing any playing time in Vancouver, but here’s hoping the other three are bone tired when they roll into Dallas on Tuesday.

by TracyJean on Feb 27, 2010 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Good point.

I wonder the same thing about Morrow. Even though I hate the sweater he’s wearing (nay, mostly I hate the people that arrogantly and pompously root for the sweater) he is working his freaking tail off out there.

I wonder if he can bring that same motivation back to Dallas, or if he’ll just be tired for a week or so. There’s no time to rest with 21 games in 40 days.

by Brad Gardner on Feb 27, 2010 12:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Especially the way he seems to have stepped up his play the last few games

I was a little annoyed with him before the Olympics, the way he seemed to be playing not to get hurt – and some of the remarks he made didn’t help that perception any. He better come back with some of that fire in his belly. He’s the captain – he better help lead this team to the playoffs. Yes, it is up to the goalies to win games for us, but Marty and Kari are not the ones wearing that C on their chest – Brenden is. He needs to start acting like it. I want to see the Brenden who dropped gloves with Tim Gleason in the Carolina game. I want to see the Brenden who has been buzzing around the front of the net during the Olympics.

Of course, Jere is playing in the game Saturday for bronze, but he’ll have an extra day on Brenden to rest. Karlis and Loui are already resting (I hope), since their teams have been sent packing already.

And yes, I’ve noticed that about their fans (confession – I did buy a Morrow Team Canada t-shirt). They’ve been a bit obnoxious, haven’t they? Especially in some of the US games – some of them have been going just to root against the US. You’d think they’d want to see another powerful match up with Canada vs. US round 2. But no, some of them would have preferred that the US get knocked off so that Canada could have a cake-walk to that gold medal they think is their God-given birth right. And they call Americans arrogant. “Own the podium” The US is laughing all the way back over the border with their at least 36 medals (34 right now with 2 more guaranteed medals hockey and long-track speed skating in a team event) and at least one more possible in bobsledding.

by TracyJean on Feb 27, 2010 12:16 AM CST up reply actions  

With this past him...

And a gold medal (possibly, I hope not, but let’s be real…) I think you’ll see a re focused, happy Morrow. It might take a few games, but I think that’s what we’ll get.

As far as Canadian fans go….there are plenty of reasonable ones..like Art. We love Art. There are also a lot of them who think that hockey has no business in Phoenix or Dallas. These are the ones who can be a bit…for lack of a better word, “snobby” about hockey.

It’s a game. It’s everyone’s game. Not your game. Can’t we all just get along?

by Brad Gardner on Feb 27, 2010 12:46 AM CST up reply actions  

That's quite the generalization

I know the vast majority of DBD members are American, but I don’t quite understand how Canadians as a whole deserve the “obnoxious” or “arrogant” labels. So what if some fans were cheering against the US? Did you really expect to see a slew of red and white Canadians chanting “U-S-A! U-S-A!”? Do you really think that didn’t happen towards Canada in 02?

We’re getting set for the 4th chapter in the past 2 months of the epic novel that is Canada vs. USA, and I can contest that there isn’t a single Canada thinking “damn…I wish Finland had have won”. We are all reveling at chance to win the only game that actually matters. The Olympics are in our country for a change and we’re going to cheer as loud as we damn well please. See you Sunday :).

by LilEagle on Feb 27, 2010 12:46 AM CST up reply actions  

I think you should take the animosity

As a compliment.

I think we’re all a little jealous of the team Canada has put together. I was just saying that we don’t like being told, as we so often are, that hockey doesn’t belong in “the south.”

The vast majority of fans on either side contribute amiably to what is becoming a really fun rivalry indeed.

by Brad Gardner on Feb 27, 2010 12:58 AM CST up reply actions  

It's one thing to cheer as loud as you damn please

It’s another to be actively shown to be actively ragging the US when they do something good and actively cheering when something went wrong for the US in the game (what little did), as was shown on TV during the quarterfinal game against the Swiss on the 24th. It was pointed out by the analysts during the broadcast. Those are the people I have a problem with, not the ones who just come out to cheer a for their team and who want to see a good hockey game.

I haven’t been rooting against the Canadians. I wanted to see them back in the finals for US vs. Canada part 2. I was wondering last night what took them so long to get going. Our game was expected to be close and turned into a rout. Canada seemed to be expected to throttle all comers and only won 3-2 – to the team to beat the defending goal medalists, but still….

by TracyJean on Feb 27, 2010 8:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow, He's huge...

Lehtonen looks like a bear in that shot.

by laurenb on Feb 27, 2010 12:23 AM CST reply actions  

Hehehe! Funny you should say that--

I actually thought better of my first fatigue-addled comparison:
“HE’S LIKE A PONY!”

But seriously, that physique could really put a young, skittish defenseman’s mind at ease. If Dallas every acquires any of those, of course. ;)

by laurenb on Feb 27, 2010 2:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Holy crap.

I think Marty comes up to Kari’s bellybutton… >_>

by viralphrame on Feb 27, 2010 6:45 AM CST up reply actions  

In the pic at Andrew's Stars Page

of the two of them, Marty is sitting on the ice and Kari is next to him on one knee. Kari is kind of….towering over him. Of course, Kari is the same height as Alex (6’4") and Alex actually weighs a little bit more, so it really shouldn’t come as a surprise to see someone towering over Marty (really, almost everyone towers over Marty, at least goalies – he is probably the smallest in the NHL). But it might be a perception thing because we kept getting told how big this kid is.

by TracyJean on Feb 27, 2010 7:53 AM CST up reply actions  

just curious?

are practices open to the public?

Texas Rangers- You hang 'em, we bang 'em!

by coldskeet on Feb 28, 2010 2:56 PM CST reply actions  

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