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Stars Enter Olympic Break a Point Out of 8th Thanks to 3-0-1 Finish and 3-0 Win Over Yotes

Pending the result of tonight's Calgary-Anaheim game.

And to reiterate a point from tonight's game thread, if you had told me three weeks ago that this is where the Stars would be as the club went their separate ways while Loui, Jere, Karlis, and Brenden go play in the Olympics for their respective countries, I would have gladly taken it.

Especially if you had told me they'd cruise into the break with a two game winning streak on the road. And if the Stars are able to ride this wave of momentum into the playoffs and do anything in the tournament for Lord Stanley's Chalice, well, credit Joe Nieuwendyk for pulling the trigger on the Kari Lehtonen trade.

But not for the reason you might think.

Follow the jump for that reason, as well as a few other points in this game. I hear another team hates James Neal.

Star-divide

Marty Turco wasn't told about the Stars' acquisition of Lehtonen until after the Chicago game Tuesday night. Since Nieuwendyk broke the news, Turco's been a different goaltender from what we've seen for much of this season. The only goal that's eluded him came off the stick of his own teammate in Calgary.

Now he did have a bit of luck in keeping tonight's shutout in tact. Midway through the third, Turco wandered out of his net like he normally does and got caught during a moment of indecision and let a soft pass go that was easily intercepted by Radim Vrbata.

Unfortunately for the Coyotes, Vrbata had all the aim of Nick Folk (hat tip to Pat from the Game Thread) and fired it wide of a yawning net. And that was the last real scoring threat that Phoenix was able to muster against Turco.

Offensively, it was the Brandon Segal Show.

Who?

Brandon Segal.

You know, that guy they picked up off waivers from the Kings. He's only one game into his Stars career. But this move reminds me of the decision to trade for Brian Sutherby last year. That move was strictly a depth move as the Stars were in throes of an injury riddled early part to the season.

This move, however, was clearly made because there's something about Segal's game that Joe Nieuwendyk liked. I don't know if he accounted for the offense that Segal showcased tonight with a beautiful deflection off the shot of Trevor Daley and a pretty pass over to Toby Petersen for "the ender" as Razor put it.

I'm sure he was either paying homage to former Cowboys coach Chan Gailey, or to one of my all time favorite Ticket shows that was hosted by Doogie Anderson and Mark Followill a decade ago. Or perhaps both. I don't know. But it was appropro.

And it killed just about any energy the Phoenix Coyotes got from the first period after they watched Petr Prucha get stretchered off after James Neal hit him along the boards...with a perfectly legal hit.

Now I don't know how many Coyotes fans are going to find their way over here to vent about the hit. But for any that do, I've got some questions for you.

First, was a hit from behind? Did Neal leave his feet? And did his elbow come up? Was the glass to blame?

If you answered 'Yes' to any of the first three questions, you're being intellectually dishonest with yourself.

And if you answer 'No' to the fourth, well there's no point in arguing with you.

Seriously, when is your team going to insist on getting rid of the seamless glass? If that hit had taken place a week earlier in Dallas, Prucha probably gets up and skates back to the bench.

FWIW, I hope Prucha's OK. And I never like to see players have to get taken off the ice on a stretcher. Nobody does.

Defending Big D Three Stars

3. Jamie Benn - Again, could have made a case for giving him the third star for his go-ahead goal in the early part of the third period. Consider this a make up call if you're reading this, Jamie.

But I was very tempted to give Barch the third star simply for giving that bitch Paul Bissonnette something to really shush about.

2. Brandon Segal - We like Brandon's around here. And I think we like this one, too. Goal? Assist? If only he had worked in a scrap for the Gordie Howe Hat Trick.

1. Marty Turco - Ever since the Lehtonen trade, it's been Marty circa 2003. I'm hoping it continues after the break.

With Marty still in a Stars jersey.

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Not so fast there Kojak..

A Calgary win tonight and the Stars are right back in 9th place. Right now the Flames are up 3-1 headed into the third period.

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by Brandon Worley on Feb 13, 2010 10:52 PM CST reply actions  

not too bad though

anaheim is getting hot right now, i’m honestly more scared of them than the flames…

"They’ve taken the Illini to the woodshed."
-Steve Lavin on Mizzou v. Illinois

by Mizzou12 on Feb 13, 2010 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Crap. We can't count on Anaheim for anything these days, it seems.

On a happier note, I just noticed that Segal is pretty easy on the eyes.

by laurenb on Feb 13, 2010 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Haven't you noticed, most hockey players are?

When I had my surgery for thyroid cancer (the day of Marty’s first shutout this season against Nashville), my season ticket partner sat at the hospital with me during the surgery and then went to the game that night. She told me later that she told her sister that my doctor was “cute enough to be a hockey player”

by TracyJean on Feb 13, 2010 11:10 PM CST up reply actions  

It's either/or

Seems like most are either really good looking or AIEEEEE.

by laurenb on Feb 14, 2010 12:47 AM CST up reply actions  

If this isn't too personal to ask,

Are you out of the woods in terms of your prognosis?

by laurenb on Feb 14, 2010 1:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't mind. I'll find out on Friday (I hope)

I have an appointment with the oncologist, but I was supposed to have labs a week before, which I missed because of all the snow the last few days. I’m going to see if I can do the labs on Monday and still make the Friday appointment. Otherwise, I’ll have to push back the oncologist appointment until the following week. Depends if they can get the labs back in time.

by TracyJean on Feb 14, 2010 1:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe a suspension is is order as a result of the Neal hit!

Personally, I think there should be a hearing in Colin Campbell’s office come Monday morning.
Furthermore, there should be a suspension leveled because of the violent result of the hit.
I know many of you Neal fans will think I’m crazy, but, with all the attention being given to head shots, I firmly believe that a 2 game suspension is in order. That’s right…a 2 game suspension!!
In my opinion, the injury has to be considered as an attempt to injure!
And if the Phoenix Coyotes don’t replace the glass before their 2 game suspension (after the Olympic beak) is over, they should be fined $2,500 per game that it is not replaced.
Sounds fair to me! Then maybe the rest of the arenas that use that dangerous product would get the message.

And, I’ll say it again…Marty Turco should be in GM Joe’s office Monday morning with an offer to play for 2 years at 2 mill a year to stay with the team and serve as a contender for the net but accept the backup role if the new guy shows better. And, be a mentor to the newer guy. By doing this, Turco can finish with the Stars, not have to be away from or uproot his family and, like Modano, be an asset to the team and preserve his dignity as a talented player. (And, Marty…if your agent won’t step up and do this for you, call me, I’ll fill in for him at a quarter of his fee!)

by Cowpokealong on Feb 13, 2010 11:40 PM CST reply actions  

Haha You're Funny

That was a perfectly legal hit, he did elevate his elbow slightly, but he never extended it. It was a hard, full body check, that with those boards never seems to end well. He was never violent, never had the intention to injure. It is hockey, it is a physical sport sometimes people get hurt. But, Neal has done nothing to warrant a call from the NHL office.

by Speedbump Joey on Feb 13, 2010 11:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I think cowpoke was saying

That the glass should be suspended.

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by Brandon Worley on Feb 13, 2010 11:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yep

It was funny to read. I was wondering where he was headed at first.

by Damien Franco on Feb 14, 2010 6:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Legal hit

I recall a similar hit by Morrow on Brent Seabrook a few years back….only it was open ice and not against the boards. Morrow caught Seabrook w/ his head down and planted his upper arm (between elbow and shoulder) along Seabrook’s face…sending him into airborn “helicopter” mode. Chicago bench was livid b/c Morrow elevated his arm/elbow during the follow-through….completely legal and Seabrook was fine, just a hard hit is all…that’s hockey. Anyone else w/ center ice viewing the ‘yotes’ telecast get sick of their commentator commenting on how he was getting “goosebumps” everytime someone stood up to Neal? [VOMIT]

by deaken77 on Feb 15, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I missed the game tonight

and it sounds like I missed a good game. I am sorry for that but I think I need to take some time away for now. so I hope the Stars continue to do well. take care all

Miami Hockey misses Brendan Burke. RIP sweetie - gone too soon.

by Happy Girl on Feb 13, 2010 11:53 PM CST reply actions  

Let's calm down a bit on the jokes though

I’m not laying judgement on the hit itself, but Prucha is a good kid who was hurt badly. Could have been worse.

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by Brandon Worley on Feb 13, 2010 11:54 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

No joke intended!

I think the “fast glass” is dangerous. And, I think it has to be a mitigating factor in any discussion the leage has on head injuries.
Why fine and suspend players and ignore dangerous glass?

And, for what it’s worth, I had already checked at http://blog.coyoteshipcheck.com/ and they are reporting that Prucha was treated and released.

by Cowpokealong on Feb 14, 2010 12:17 AM CST reply actions  

Cleared up

I understood what you are saying. Glad to hear that Prucha is out, just must have been dazed and confused. You can always hear Ralph and Razor cringing when someone takes a hard check against these boards.

And as a safety pro, it is shocking that the NHLPA has not brought a case to the NHL to remove these “fast glass” installations. I know that they are popular for international play, but then again they do not play a checking kind of game, so this stuff works great there. This glass is absolute crap for the NHL.

by Speedbump Joey on Feb 14, 2010 12:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Ok cool

I wasn’t trying to come down on anyone. I actually thought your suspension call was right on, considering that glass. Good to know that Prucha is ok.

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by Brandon Worley on Feb 14, 2010 12:49 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Looking forward to

watching the Morrow – Toews – Iginla line in the Olympics.

by modano9 on Feb 14, 2010 12:51 AM CST reply actions  

Video?

There a video anywhere of the hit from Neal? I can’t seem to find it. And, unfortunately, I missed the game… and my DVR decided to take a vacation and it missed it as well. :(

by HarmGsN on Feb 14, 2010 12:58 AM CST reply actions  

I can grab it and post it to YouTube, if you'd like.

I’m working on my DVD of the game right now (I always edit out commercials after a Stars win or other significant games).

by TracyJean on Feb 14, 2010 1:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, please.

I need to see this hit myself.

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by Brandon Worley on Feb 14, 2010 1:28 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Okay

It will be posted in a few minutes

by TracyJean on Feb 14, 2010 1:29 AM CST up reply actions  

The Neal-Prucha hit is posted at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KacelXx4xao

It starts with the face off immediately preceding the hit – the hit itself goes by so fast you almost miss it – and then shows a couple of replays of the hit, one up close and one from a distance. You Tube is still processing, so the video quality is still a little poor, but you can still make out the hit on the close up replay of the hit.

by TracyJean on Feb 14, 2010 1:42 AM CST up reply actions  

same thing happened to me.

DVR always works great if the stars lose and always cuts off the last 3 minutes if the game is close.

by KingPodda on Feb 14, 2010 7:13 AM CST up reply actions  

stars live

if you set your dvd to always record stars live, which follows the game, you’ll always have the ending.

by absolete on Feb 14, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

okay

first off, everyone in the league needs to go the Stephane Robidas How-To-Take-A-Hit class. you will learn a valuable lesson.

and for probably the 10th time this week, without further ado:

MARTY! MARTY! MARTY! MARTY! MARTY! MARTY! MARTY!

by agvdstars on Feb 14, 2010 1:03 AM CST reply actions  

Gah, wrenching photo topping the Slovakia women's team story

http://www.ctvolympics.ca/hockey/news/newsid=41049.html#slovaks+learn+hard+lesson+defeat+canada

(Posted because there was side-talk about that rout during the game earlier)

by laurenb on Feb 14, 2010 1:06 AM CST reply actions  

I just read the recap at Five for Howling

Basically, James and Marty are punks, the Stars did nothing to deserve to win and the Coyotes were trying to hard to get revenge and not hard enough to win a hockey game. Whine, whine, whine.

by TracyJean on Feb 14, 2010 1:57 AM CST reply actions  

I've been talking to Travis tonight.

He’s mainly upset about Prucha’s injury. Let’s not add more to it with name calling or anything.

We’ll just……agree to disagree with Coyotes fans on this one.

By the way, thanks putting that vid up.

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by Brandon Worley on Feb 14, 2010 2:08 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah....

But everyone is a homer. He’s a hardcore Coyotes fan.

I don’t know what exacy he said in the recap, but it’s all perspective:

YOUR team plays horrible and allows opposition to score 5 goals. Horrible game and your team just wilted and let them walk all over you.

THEIR team played great! They dominated every aspect and it was a great team win.

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by Brandon Worley on Feb 14, 2010 2:19 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

No kidding.

Although it didn’t feel like 40 shots, did it?

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by Brandon Worley on Feb 14, 2010 2:20 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Maybe I'm just protective

Travis is a friend of mine.

Dave Tippett wasn’t a fan of that hit either.

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by Brandon Worley on Feb 14, 2010 2:34 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

doesn't matter either way

Tippett isn’t allowed to be okay with that hit….

by absolete on Feb 14, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Skrastins kudos.

To me, the key turning point in that game has hardly been mentioned in the coverage anywhere.

‘Yotes are all amped up after the Prucha injury and hitting anything with a Stars sweater. Turco goes Eddie on Doan, maybe in retaliation for Doans headhunting on Neal but more likely for his trespassing in Marty’s crease. I had no problem with Marty asserting himself there. But after a clean win on the faceoff starting the kill, Robidas throws the puck out of the rink for a Delay of Game call and almost 2 solid minutes of 5 vs 3. Oh, Oh! After a minute of solid kill, Skarstins just goes to war below our blue line in an extended 2 vs 1 puck battle. He finally wins and pushes the puck to the corner and Jovanovski takes a penalty erasing the 2 man advantage. HUGE moment. If Phoenix gets the first goal there, well they are one of the best in the league when scoring first.

by 1paniolo on Feb 14, 2010 11:07 AM CST reply actions  

very good points

also, doan pushed turco’s stick away from him. as a goalie, i totally woulda “went eddie” on him as well.

by agvdstars on Feb 14, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

Skrats played nearly 90 seconds of the 5-3, all the way to Jovanovski getting his penalty, didn’t he?
Big nod to Skrats.

by Waywardstars on Feb 14, 2010 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Went back and watched - really busy few minutes late in the 1st

In 6 minutes of video: Doan flips Neal, Turco punches Doan and looks quite pleased with himself, delay call on Robidas, Skrastins rectifies the 3 on 5 situation, Turco gets tangled up but teammates help with close call… and the announcers have time to talk about Turco and also pretend a trainer snuggling a Coyote is doing something health-related. Just kidding on the last one… I blame the angle.

Uploaded the aforementioned clip here: http://bit.ly/9ymemT – If video won’t play smoothly, try switching to the HTML5 viewer and clicking “HD off,” or try downloading it.

by laurenb on Feb 14, 2010 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

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