Hockey's Future Depth Analysis: Dallas Stars' System In Transition
A few days ago, Mike Farkas at Hockey's Future posted his Fall 2010 Depth Analysis for the Dallas Stars. When it comes to keeping up with prospects both in the Stars system and around the NHL, I've found that Hockey's Future is the way to go. So because I trust them, so should you. Not really, but...you should. Trust me.
Hockey's Future broke down the Dallas Stars system position by position, prospect by prospect. Click the link to read the full post, but I'll summarize below very quickly.
Obviously, Scott Glennie gets a paragraph to himself. Farkas points out what we have said before here on DBD: that Glennie has not impressed when placed in important situations, and that this is a big year for Glennie to prove himself. Also of note is Ondrej Roman, and some news on Perttu Lindgren's re-return to Finland for what seems like the millionth time.
Philip Larsen gets some praise from Farkas, who says he's already progressed faster than Ivan Vishnevskiy did in the same amount of time. Which makes the trade for Kari Lehtonen look like even more of a steal than it already does, honestly. I'm obviously not on the inside with Thrasher management, but I don't know if Atlanta makes that deal again knowing how quickly Vishnevskiy's stock would fall.
More from HF after the jump.
Farkas has some good info on the most recent addition to the Stars defense prospect pool, 2010 second round pick Patrik Nemeth:
Nemeth has been a surprisingly effective player in his first year in the Elitserien (AIK has just re-joined the Elitserien after promotion). He's second among club defensemen in points early in the year while accruing a plus rating. At 18 years old, Nemeth is the youngest defenseman on the team. Nemeth may be a long shot to make the U20 World Junior Championships team, but he's not going away quietly.
From what you can read about Nemeth, he sounds like a solid player in his own end, who can make a good outlet pass and isn't afraid to make a big hit or drop the gloves. So basically, think of a Nicklas Grossman-Mark Fistric hybrid. Now, don't expect him to be as good as those two right away...but that's the type of player he is, and he's certainly someone to keep an eye on.
As far as goaltenders go, Jack Campbell gets HF's nod as the best Stars prospect in the system. I agree with Farkas when he says that Campbell has the mental fortitude to battle through this tough start in the pros. The kid will be challenged, for sure, but he has the intangibles to handle it.
Overall, if you look up and down the system, you see that the Stars have a couple good prospects in each category but aren't deep in any category. That's just one of the stages this franchise will have to go through as this regime begins to restock through the draft.
Anyways, please check out the full post on Hockey's Future. Mike Farkas does a great job as usual analyzing the Stars prospects, and it's well worth the read.
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This is a bit frustrating...
On Lindgren:
Although his future in the NHL is now doubtful, Lindgren is tearing up Finland years after being the SM-Liiga rookie of the year in 2006. Lindgren comfortably leads the league in assists and points through the early going.
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Keep in mind
That Loui was rated a 7.0 C (basically, decent 2nd line player) by him just a few years ago. I like the methodical way they evaluate prospects but it’s still often a guessing game.
But yeah, Kari was a steal no matter how you look at it. Although we won’t talk about Turco’s numbers these days…
Turco
Also has 2 hold medal winning defensemen in front of him, as well as Campbell, Hjalmarsson. A lot of committed 2 way forwards like Toews as well. Much stronger team, trust me Kari is better and younger and doesn’t cost a ton more.
by brendan1 on Nov 1, 2010 10:11 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Turco holds his gold medal.
The Stars will have a 3 game win streak within their first 6 games. Mark my words!
Campbell and Chiasson
I was a little worried about Campbell’s slow start, but going from the USNDP in Ann Arbor to the most followed, publicized, and scrutinized team in the OHL (besides maybe the London Knights) is an adjustment. He’s won 4 straight games now and seems to be getting into a groove and not letting soft goals in which killed him and his team early on. The rest of the season looks very promising for him. But we can’t rush him, I’d say give him another year in the OHL then see if he can perform at the ECHL or AHL level. No matter how talented and mentally strong he is it’s probably gonna take him 4 or 5 years to crack the NHL, and while that seems like an eternity for us, he’ll only be 23 or 24.
I go to BU so i’ve seen Alex Chiasson play 3 times now and while he isn’t an NCAA powerhouse (yet) he’s extremely noticeable on the ice. When I see him play, especially in the BU-Providence game last week, every time he steps on the ice you notice it. He’s all over the place, he won almost every footrace, he shrugged guys off physically in puck battles and he made a really nice, crisp pass for their first goal and had a beautiful patience/dangle backhand for the winner. Like Campbell he’s gonna need a few more years. I would let him play all 4 years in the NCAA unless at some point it becomes a man among boys type thing. Then give him a year or two in the A.
I think we’re a lot deeper than most people think. We don’t really have the Bobby Ryan’s or any of those huge big profile type prospects but we have a lot of good guys and guys a team needs to win championships. A lot of them will be a great complement to the younger guys currently in the Stars’ core. When Ribby Richards and Morrow get up there in age there will be plenty of good players for Loui, the real deal, Benn, Wandell, Grossman, Fistric etc to play with
I think the funny part
To me is that Texas went to the Finals and is still ranked near the bottom of the list for prospects. To some degree, I can understand that the Dallas Stars promoted several players “early” and didn’t have any 1st round draft picks for a while there…but obviously SOMEONE in Austin can play well.
Yeah but it went to the final because of team play
And remember they had the help of a couple defenders who aren’t considered prospects anymore. Also the rating of the stars’ system is based on individual talents and play and not how the team comes together.
There weren't a lot of prospects in Austin last year,
but there were a lot of solid AHL types. Older guys that are boarderline NHL, but very good AHL players. Like Hutchensen, or Lukovich this year. So just because Austin made the finals it does not follow that our prospect cupboard is full.
True
On both accounts. But if our guys are able to play together as a team and get the job done against other teams’ best players, they evidently have that “IT” factor that every team needs.
Every Stanley Cup winning team always has those guys that make everyone better around them. Sure, they need good D, good goaltending and obviously scoring at the right times, but they have to have players that work hard and finish their checks. You just can’t quantify that, and that’s the issue I have with following stats and prospect analysis. Think Stu Barnes and how much he meant (means?) to this team. Would someone with all of his talent be ranked highly? Probably not, but every team needs guys like him. You could even argue the current team could use another Stu.
Still, that site is great and stat chasing definitely has its usefulness and I can’t help but get enthused reading about our prospects even though it may not mean much later on down the road.

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