Drifting Away Into Mediocrity; Stars Drop Third Straight In New York, 5-2
They are not so much stuck in neutral anymore as they have now put it in reverse.
This is the time that is going to be the hardest for Dallas Stars fans. We've never been here before, really. The team is sliding, falling ever deeper into Western Conference obscurity and instead of improving they're getting steadily worse. Teams go through lulls in the season (this is first time the Stars have lost three in a row in regulation since last season) but the tough pill to swallow is that this team hasn't shown you much to give you hope there's a bright light on the other side.
Since putting together what really was a very solid two weeks of hockey, culminating in two straight wins over the Blackhawks and Ducks, the Stars have fallen completely flat at the exact moment they desperately needed points. By the time the Stars play again on Saturday, they could find themselves eight points behind 8th place and losing ground.
After the jump, further thoughts on tonight's game.
- I was uncertain how I felt about Sean Avery on this particular night, and after taking some time to think it out I've decided that was very impressed with what he did on the ice against the Stars. This Sean Avery was the player the Stars had hoped to get when he signed last summer, and while the locker room issues were his ultimate undoing we never saw him play at this level before. Avery had a goal and three primary assists, several dumb penalties and the Stars were more preoccupied with him than they were with stopping the puck and playing defense. This is what it's like to be on the other side of the score when Steve Ott is at his best, and this is what Avery was supposed to do in Dallas.
Instead, he absolutely embarrasses his former team, driving a stake through the heart of a team that is paying him $2 million to play elsewhere. You could instantly see that Avery wanted this, that he wanted to do all he could to make life miserable for the Stars and now they are going to be the laughing stock of the hockey world for one night. Tomorrow, there will be headlines on Puck Daddy and NHL.com and elsewhere lamenting Avery's career game against the Dallas Stars.
His answer for why tonight was different "Two teams were paying me."
It makes me want to vomit. - Speaking of those Avery penalties, for every good thing he did tonight he did something idiotic. Except the Stars, just like they haven't done all season long, were incapable of taking advantage of those opportunities and squandered five power plays and several prime scoring chances when the game was still in doubt. Jamie Benn was unable to score on a shorthanded breakaway, Brad Richards hit the pipe on an open shot from the slot and the Stars had minimal pressure on a lengthy 5-on-3 in the second period.
- The one thing I have to wonder is how differently this game might have gone had Marty Turco not had one of his worst games of his career. He's always been a goaltender known for making incredible saves, yet allowing soft goals at the worst times. Tonight, every time the Stars made an effort to take the lead or at least climb back in it and tie the game, Turco allows another soft goal. An NHL goaltender of his 'talent' should NEVER allow a goal from the distance Kotalik scored from, a back breaking goal that negated the work the Stars put in to tie the game at 2-2 early in the second period.
The Stars had a good start to this game, took the lead in the first period and at least showed signs they were infinitely more interested in this game more than last night's. Yet after Turco allowed two goals to give the Rangers a late lead in the first, and then the long goal to Kotalik in the second, all of the fight was gone from the Stars. They gave up, essentially and the fire was gone if it ever was there. - Still no word on Mike Ribeiro, but it doesn't look good. After being speared in the face (accidentally), Ribeiro left the game was taken for X-rays. If Ribeiro is out for any amount of time, there are a couple of candidates in Austin I'd like to see get some playing time. Colton Sceviour is having a great start to his pro career (+14 in 38 games) or we could also see Pertuu Lindgren a second time.
At any rate, it was obvious the loss of Ribeiro stunned the Stars and affected them as the game went on. When a team is searching for cohesiveness and offensive production, losing it's second center and a staple on the penalty kill will hurt many attempts at a comeback. As much as we've been down on him this season, an extended loss of Ribeiro will not be good for the Stars. - Right now the general feel among fans (and myself) is that this team has lost it's heart and it's will to fight, both figuratively and literally. The biggest indication you have that this is a group of players that don't believe in themselves as an actual team is how there was a complete lack of reaction to the way a number of Stars players were mistreated tonight by the Rangers. Love him or hate him, Marty Turco is still your goaltender. When he get's plowed into and run over on purpose, this team needs to react in some way. There was none, zero; I'm not saying I want an all-out brawl on the ice but at least show some backbone and stick up for your teammates.
Later in the game, James Neal is taken out with a brutal trip as he crosses the ice. Not going to say it was intentional, but it was far from a simple incidental trip. Once again, no fight back from the Dallas Stars. This is a team that is seemingly resolved to being mediocre and doesn't seem to be all too concerned with showing the heart it takes to climb out of this hole. - Is this a team that can turn it around, pull together in the locker room and get past this frustration? At this point, I don't have much faith. During last night's podcast, I found myself getting surprisingly emotional when discussing Brenden Morrow. It hurts me so far deep down to think of this guy negatively, not after all he's done for this team over the years. He's been the heart and soul of the Stars for so long, it's nearly impossible for me to fathom can't do it now. Yet he's disappeared in this tough stretch of games and instead of Morrow causing havoc and giving it his all in the final minutes we have Tom Wandell, Toby Petersen, Karlis Skrastins, Mark Fistric and Jere Lehtinen laying it on the line.
Yet it's Morrow this team needs more than anyone to step up, and right now that's not happening. And don't know if he will at this point, and that hurts me more than anything else.
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Blow It Up
Is Newy the Stars JD? This thing needs a reboot.
by jf55510 on Jan 6, 2010 8:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They might react negatively to having the stars benched....
so i dont know if i would do that…
Maybe bring them in one by one, show them highlight reels of their own greatest moments, and say :where the hell is that? we know you’re capable of it, now freaking do it"
Either that or end the season now, get a good draft pick, and hope for a better season (Except we’d give up the rest of Mo’s games if we did that)
by Tsudbury on Jan 6, 2010 8:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This game will bug Hicks when he signs the next Avery check.
Gotta have hockey!
by terig on Jan 6, 2010 8:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This lose hurt my heart. I thought yesterday’s game was demoralizing. This was 100 times worse.
by schtimpy27 on Jan 6, 2010 8:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can we send everyone down to the Texas Stars on a conditioning stint?
If this team can’t get up for playing against Sean Avery – someone they claim to all hate – and cant’ get up after getting embarrassed last night, I don’t know what the answer is. Make them take a bus back to Dallas and hope they do some bonding on the road trip.
Maybe someone needs to go. I don’t know. I need time to heal my broken heart and unstable DSL.
I must have this thing for hockey boys from Whitby with the initials JN.
by Happy Girl on Jan 6, 2010 8:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They need a crappy plane. And no whirl pool. And a cardboard cut out of their owner naked where they peel off a piece of his suit whenever they win.
Or, not….
by schtimpy27 on Jan 6, 2010 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
make it a cardboard cutout of their GM and I am all over the Major League deal here
I must have this thing for hockey boys from Whitby with the initials JN.
by Happy Girl on Jan 6, 2010 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not here to brag. just saying that dallas and ny should play each other more..
it was a really physical game. havent seen a game that rough in a while.
what r ur guys opinons on avery? did you hate him when he was a star?
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Jan 6, 2010 8:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
He found no love here.
Gotta have hockey!
by terig on Jan 6, 2010 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i mean i can understand hating him when hes against you.
but when he was on your team u didnt love him?
i guess its just new york
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by Moshe52792 on Jan 6, 2010 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And this is the South.
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by laughs2loud on Jan 6, 2010 8:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've always thought of Texas as more West than South
but that’s just me and I’ve only ever been to Dallas
I must have this thing for hockey boys from Whitby with the initials JN.
by Happy Girl on Jan 6, 2010 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely South.
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by laughs2loud on Jan 6, 2010 8:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Really? The culture(s) here is/are nothing like the rest of the south.
by laurenb on Jan 6, 2010 8:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess as you move west across the state it gets less Southern.
And probably there is less difference now due to media differences and the big cities are different.
In college, I could tell from your accent if you were from Dallas or Houston as opposed to the smaller towns.
East Texas has always been more Southern. I grew up near Waco which maybe the dividing point, once you moved west of there, things started becoming more “midwest”.
And now I’m obsessing. Sorry.
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by laughs2loud on Jan 6, 2010 9:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's cool.
I’m from Houston, lived in Vernon, spent about 6 months in Austin, few weeks in NOLA doing Habitat builds, also lived in Albuquerque, Nashville and Northern KY. I find Texas to be deeply and fundamentally different than the rest of the south I’ve lived in/seen. But I completely agree that Houston and Dallas are quite distinct.
by laurenb on Jan 6, 2010 9:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Houston born myself. lol
Gotta have hockey!
by terig on Jan 6, 2010 9:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I like that.
We’re not the south, we’re not the southwest. We’re Texas, dammit. :D
by jessibee on Jan 6, 2010 9:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If some one frome the states was visiting a foreign country
and was asked where they came from the would say the United States. A Texan would say I’m from Texas!
Gotta have hockey!
by terig on Jan 6, 2010 9:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's true.
Pirate for life...
by Damien Franco on Jan 7, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Dallas is in the South
I’m in El Paso and this is the Southwest. Not sure why that matters, but I just wanted to put my two cents in.
by jessibee on Jan 6, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no..
i kinda no wut u mean, i love ott, but avery is just an idiot, otts a team guy while avery just seems a lorner
by PDUNBAR on Jan 6, 2010 8:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not here atleast. fans love him, and the teammates love him.
ott was the one that seemed like an idiot.
btw, who was the player that dove infront of your goal to block the open net??
that looked like charlie conway from the mighty ducks
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Jan 6, 2010 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that your poodle in your avatar?
Gotta have hockey!
by terig on Jan 6, 2010 8:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
golden doodle
have retriever half standard poodle
yeah haha i love him
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Jan 6, 2010 8:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
does avery not like sit at the end of the bench by himself most games ?
by PDUNBAR on Jan 6, 2010 8:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he sits at the end of the bench to trash talk to other teams
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Jan 6, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
not asking him to be classy. were asking him to piss of the other team and put in some points here or there. as long as he does that were happy
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Jan 6, 2010 8:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
fair point, but to me he doest seem a team guy
those images of him skating around at training by himself not a care in the world doesnt so much respect to your team mates
by PDUNBAR on Jan 6, 2010 9:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i here ya. and i would think that too if i just saw that..
but most of the team seems to love him.
i mean his post game remarks sounded like a real team player..
stan fischler: what felt better, the goal or the assist
avery: the win. the games not about me stan
dont really mean much though
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Jan 6, 2010 9:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
thats a pretty fair way to summarize it
rangers need avery. and avery needs the rangers..
well we dont play for the rest of the season so good luck. and if you ever play the penguins, please injure crosby :)
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Jan 6, 2010 9:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yea..
cheers , same to you, i realy like Callahan btw great player, big heart
by PDUNBAR on Jan 6, 2010 9:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah he got his 10th goal on the empty net.
thats second on our team.
pathetic huh?
without gaborik and king henrik wed be in last place.
and i wish we had a player like richards to center gabby.
well night all
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Jan 6, 2010 9:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and ive met him a few times in real life (talked to him for a good 30 min at his bar)
he was really cool and calm. seemed like a nice guy
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Jan 6, 2010 8:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not surprising
Most athletes seem to have a game persona.
by laurenb on Jan 6, 2010 9:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i think thats just him on the ice.
cause honestly, if he doesnt annoy his opponents, hes not a player worth having. thats his strength
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
by Moshe52792 on Jan 6, 2010 9:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well put.
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by laughs2loud on Jan 6, 2010 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We are just a little bit more picky about the reputation of our players. He just didn't fit in.
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by terig on Jan 6, 2010 8:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha. It is still the Bible Belt.
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by laughs2loud on Jan 6, 2010 9:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious?
Bites tongue and walks away.*
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by laughs2loud on Jan 6, 2010 8:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh ugh ugh.
A good players, people whose talent and attitude can electrify anyone who’s watching, let a tool make them look like tools. As he’s paid money that would be very helpful. That’s shameful and heartbreaking. :(
by laurenb on Jan 6, 2010 8:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can I complain about not being able to watch the game here in El Paso because FSN/SW was showing basketball instead?
by jessibee on Jan 6, 2010 9:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Also, why put Auld in net last night (when Turco would have done better against the Devils) when he could have been in net tonight? He doesn’t have a history with Avery, so Avery wouldn’t have been able to goad him as much as he did Turco. Just sayin’.
by jessibee on Jan 6, 2010 9:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, we were wondering that all last night.
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by laughs2loud on Jan 6, 2010 9:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Alright folks
I’m all liquored up and ready for a fight…
Not really.
Though that’s not a bad idea. The Stars could use some liquid courage when someone plows over their netminder and they just don’t seem to care.
by Brad Gardner on Jan 6, 2010 9:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Not cool
I get home from work and see that Slopman himself has four points.
Well at least the Rangers know that the only production they will get from him is against Dallas.
by Bouldin on Jan 6, 2010 9:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Over the past month, I've soured on Morrow.
It hurts me too, because ever since he scored that winning goal in 4 OT against the Sharks at my first ever hockey game, he’s been my hero. But wearing that C means something, y’know? I need to see fire from him, and all I’m seeing from him right now is a weary, downtrodden body language.
by Pat Iversen on Jan 6, 2010 10:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Turco
As much as i like the guy he is not getting it done anymore. For those of you who watched the world juniors, i would make the comparison to the canadian goalie. Not that the team played well in front of him, but the goals let in a very weak. I think turco is done in dallas, not necessarily that he will get traded, although that might be the best option, but that he will not perform at previous levels as long as he is a star. we need blood and he needs a new start. wouldn’t mind seeing halak in dallas…what would you offer? keep in mind he is a restricted free agent after and relatively unproven, so its not like benn will be going the other way. i was kinda thinking brunnstrom and a 3rd rounder myself. he would also be cheaper than turco.
by modano9 on Jan 6, 2010 10:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
turco just sucks
thats all there is to it. He is not the player he used to be and does not have the young legs he once had to cover for his mistakes. The team has no heart and effort and it all starts in net because once the team decides to get a push going and tie the game, turco gives up a goal from the blue line. Its pathetic and I have no idea why we are still playing him. I know Auld has not been steller either but right now I would rather take my chances with him.
born to destroy
by Lifewish on Jan 7, 2010 1:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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