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Some thoughts on what just happened

Once again the Dallas Stars had a great start to the game and were sitting in perfect position with a 2-1 lead late in the second period. It was the latest the Stars had led in 5 games. Two late goals in the second and a quick goal in the third put the Florida Panthers up for good in the game and the Stars never recovered. They came within 4-3 on a Chris Conner goal, but once again could not maintain the pressure in the third and get the comeback win.

I'll have more on this tomorrow, but I wanted to say something about Steve Ott. Expect a suspension to come down on Ott and it could be 3-5 games. It's going to be a combination of a reputation punishment, the player injured is the son of Colin Campbell, and it was a pretty nasty and illegal hit.

I'm never going to defend a guy for an illegal hit, even if he is on the Stars, but I don't see that hit as an intent to injure. Ott was overzealous and became too locked into making the big hit to spark his team and the crowd. When you get that tunnel vision you can forget to pay attention to what else is going on, most importantly noticing the player you are going to hit no longer has the puck. Ott is a great player for the Stars and his style of play more often than not gives the Stars an advantage over teams who over react. Some nights, he goes too far and it causes his team more harm than good. This was one of those nights.

Things to discuss:

  • The Stars lost two more defensemen during the game, with Mark Fistric and Stephane Robidas leaving with injuries.
  • Mike Ribeiro was outstanding for 39 minutes, then disappeared.
  • Marty Turco looked tired, lost and unremarkable. Is it time for the Stars to turn to Stephan down the stretch?
  • The Stars are essentially completely out of the playoff race, and are 2-8-1 in their last 11 at home.
  • I don't care what happens on the ice, I don't ever like seeing fans booing the team and throwing things on the ice. I'll have more on this later as well.

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Overzealous Ott

Some nights, he goes too far and it causes his team more harm than good. This was one of those nights.

Excellent summation on Otter. I love defending our petulant little ice troll, but can’t on that one.

Supporting your local ice troll, 24/7/365

by laughs2loud on Mar 28, 2009 10:21 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Urgh.

I’m even starting to think we should tank this thing out to move up the draft order.

Or at least focus on making sure nobody else cops it too hard and get fresh for next season. I want to see Stephan in for a few games too.

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on Mar 28, 2009 10:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ice troll

I agree about Ott. I really don’t think he was trying to injure or do anything illegal there. I think he was probably frustrated with the team play and was trying to provide a spark. However, Ott just has to play smarter than that.

Let’s call up a few guys from the minors, give them some experience, and let Stephan man the pipes the rest of the way. Let’s see what we’ve got.

by chichitao on Mar 28, 2009 11:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

UMMM

Leave Truco in net , why have Stephane struggle with the stars now. At least Truco can say he has won the season playing the most games for a goalie. What a joke…they should of pull him long time a ago.

by Stars fan on Mar 28, 2009 11:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Turco gave the team the best shot to make the playoffs down the stretch. I realize Tobias Stephan hasn’t seen a lot of action this season between the pipes. But what little I saw of him leads to me to suggest he wasn’t in the same class as a Mike Smith or Dan Ellis.

In the one game he did start against the Pens, he certainly didn’t put up an Earth shattering performance.

That all having been said, I think Hull Fan might have been onto something the other day when he pointed out Marty’s NTC expires going into this offseason. As such, it might not be such a bad idea to shop him around and see what kind of market exists for him and see what the Stars could get back in return.

If he does return, you figure he might get back to the Marty of old since it’ll be a contract year for him.

Regardless, I don’t think we’ll be seeing Tobias Stephan in a Stars uniform next season. In fact, I wonder if we’ll be seeing him at all the remainder of the year.

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by Brandon Bibb on Mar 29, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why not play Stephan?

At this point what are you hurting? They need to find out if he can be a capable backup next season. Heck they need to know if they should even bother to tender him an offer. Marty’s shown you what he has. It’s not good. Give the kid a chance. He may or may not surprise but not trying is yet another failure this year.

by Hull Fan on Mar 29, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Craig Anderson

I don’t know much about him but he appears to have some solid skills and has done well this year for Florida. Stars announcers said he will be an UFA at seasons end. He will get a starting gig somewhere next year and a pay raise, but I think he would still be cheaper than Turco. I know Marty brings a lot to the table, but I think his major weakness is his poor positioning. I hate to see him go but I think we need to shake things up.

by chichitao on Mar 29, 2009 8:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And concerning any possible action against Ott

Any suspension that comes down would be handed down by either Mike Murphy or Bill Daly as Colin Campbell has recused himself from any disciplinary action when a Florida Panther is involved.

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by Brandon Bibb on Mar 29, 2009 9:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Steve Ott

I could never get upset with anything Ott does(except maybe a obvious slash to the head or somthing like that) because plainly he has been the stars best player night in and night out. If it wasnt for his play all the injuries would have caught up to the Stars long before they did and we would not have even sniffed the playoffs. Ott may get himself in trouble at times but how could you ever fault a guy who brings the house every week, every game, every shift. I havent seen Ott one time this year take a shift off! The mans motor is incredible and I think it was infectious on the team. In my opinion Ott was the star of the team this season and I hope he stays and plays for us for years to come.
 Besides tell me it wasnt fun watching him through his body all over the ice.
Buy the way I am new here and this is my first real post and I just wanted to say this is a very nice blog site. From what I have read yall really know your hockey and I have enjoyed reading the post’s here which are both knowledgeable and informative. Ive been a Stars fan for many years but I dont know alot about how the draft and the future building of a hockey team works so I will be interested in following how this system works reading yalls infomative posts. Anyway hello everyone and thank you for all I am learning and will learn.

by broncosorbust on Mar 29, 2009 1:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ott, Turco and the team

Ya’ know, last nights game had a lot of help by the refs. I know, I know that is just another excuse but I what kind of suspension did LA receive for taking Daley out? What penalty did the Panther player receive that high-sticked Ribs in the face and Ribs got a penalty for diving??? That one makes NO sense at all. How is pulling your head back considered diving? And, you know that the two who are in Bettman’s band of merry little men, who have been given the honor of handing, OOPS, that should be handling Ott’s trial, again OOPS I mean hearing, are going to be shaking in their boots because they will just have to make Jr.‘s dad happy. Whatever happens to Ott will be because of his reputation but I don’t even understand that. How about Pronger’s reputation, or any of the other notable bad boys. Again, no excuse for an intentional bad hit but IMO that was not a bad hit. Ott was playing hockey and the only thing he can be accused of is trying to win the game. I also think, and I know this is the conspiracy theory, there are a lot of people in high and happy places that DO NOT want to see any “Southern” team (Dallas in particular) win the cup. Of course that has nothing to do with our injuries keeping us down but there are hardly any players left to get injured so they’ll start eliminating them by suspension. After all, isn’t suspension subjective? If “they” say it is an action due suspension, then guess what, suspension is pronounced. Avery’s little comments were not actions that required a suspension but his reputation was. The rules are played however Bettman wants them played. Ott’s hit was not suspendable but since they couldn’t get him on his last situation where there was a fight and the whole Ducks’ team was on top of him and he was alone, then they will use this hit to “make an example.” BTW, who got suspended on the Ducks for that little melee started by the goalie and ended by Moen?

Now, about Marty: GET HIM OUT!!! Oh, excuse me, was I yelling too loud. Marty has had a few flashes of brilliance in the last three or so years but he has lost whatever small edge he once enjoyed. When Armstrong put Marty in his pocket and gave him a virtually free ride, it was over. Yes, Marty had a good end of the year last year and in the Vancouver series as well, but……………………….those seasons are over and gone and have nothing to do with this year except that I think Marty’s ego from his play during “the run” last year got in the way of his play this year. I think he thought he could now do no wrong and he would just continue on through his reputation. It looks to me like he really didn’t work at getting better and whatever he did do didn’t work. The comment he made last week about being better during the home stand and we would get into the playoffs. Just exactly when is he going to start keeping that promise? Marty was NOT good last year either but at least he had more games won than this year so that we were able to get in the playoffs. Our injuries were bad last year but not as bad as this year. Marty is supposed to be the last line of defense but he isn’t. He simply cannot handle any pressure around the net. Apparently this year he can’t stand any pressure from anywhere on the ice.

Yep, you guessed it. I am definitely NOT a Marty fan. I thought last year that maybe the tide had turned and I would give him another chance to WOW the fans but that didn’t happen and he even got worse. Why would you want to give him another contract and just delay the inevitable. This team cannot win the cup with Marty in goal. He has proven that for, at least, the last three years and he just keeps getting worse. He loves kids so I think it is time he gets out of the goalie business and gets in the teaching business. Of course he won’t be getting that 6 million dollars a year but he wasn’t earning it here and should not have gotten it. GET MARTY OUT!!!!!! (Marty Biron will be UFA)

As for the booing, I don’t appreciate anyone ever booing their home team FOR ANY REASON! That is NOT what “fans” do. I felt that possibly the booing and throwing programs was intended for the poor officiating. If it wasn’t for that then it was probably a bunch of drunks that like to pay the big bucks for their beer and try to look like a big man in the eyes of other drunks. When we start throwing things on the ice we lower ourselves to certain other teams we play. I won’t mention any names but they come from Michigan.
It is just sad to see the people (NOT FANS) turn their back on a group of guys whose ranks are so depleted that they are just dragging now. It is what it is with the injuries and I look forward to next year……………………with a new goalie. GO STARS!!!

by StarsRule on Mar 29, 2009 2:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

This is a great post...

You should put this in a FanPost.

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by Brandon Worley on Mar 29, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Post

Thanks. I am extremely passionate about my Stars and I am definitely very opinionated and loyal. When I think something needs to be said I will say it, I feel that we all, as fans, need to be more passionate if we want this fantastic sport to continue in this venue. To me hockey is my therapy. When I go to a game, everything else is shut out and for “60 minutes” I only concentrate on one thing.

I love to write and take every opportunity to do so, especially about the Stars. I am already having withdrawals knowing that it is about to end but I look forward to next year and if our GMs do the right thing and not pull any stupid stunts, that team SHOULD, with the experience they have all had this year fighting for every point, again, they SHOULD be able to go all the way. GO STARS!!!!!

by StarsRule on Mar 29, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I may make one more comment: This is from the Dallas Stars site: On the aftermath of the goal, Campbell took a cheap shot at Ott, hitting him in the neck with his stick, and the two dropped their gloves, but were separated by the linesmen before any fight could ensue.

Where was Campbell’s suspension for hitting a player with his stick in the neck, ON PURPOSE. I seem to remember several suspensions for that type of infraction in the last couple of years.

by StarsRule on Mar 29, 2009 6:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

omg

PUT IN TOBIAS NOW!! this is such a joke, turco has not been giving us the best chance to win. If we are going to go out there with a 50 percent goalie, we might as well put in Tobias and see what this kid has to offer. We have not given this kid a chance to show what he is made of, yet everyone wants to write him off. Put in Tobias for th stretch and lets see what this kid has.

born to destroy

by Lifewish on Mar 30, 2009 8:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

note on Ott

i have seen a lot worse go uncalled. I thought the hit was a bit late but i have seen worse. the puck was not that far away from the palyer and ott finished his man.

born to destroy

by Lifewish on Mar 30, 2009 8:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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