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Stargazing: Dallas Stars React to Win Over Toronto; No One Likes Mike Ribeiro

Stargazing is a daily assortment of Dallas Stars  and Texas Stars news, and whatever other random ramblings are bouncing around inside our heads.

After taking some time to reflect on the game last night, I'm not as upset as I thought I would be about the Stars' effort against the Toronto Maple Leafs. Sure, it's frustrating to have the Stars come out flat in the first period yet again, and limp through another uninspired effort in front of the home crowd. We find it hard to deal with as fans because we've seen how good this Stars team can be when they put their mind to it, and watching the Stars just sort of drift through the first 25 minutes of the game makes fans crazy.

In the end however, Marty Turco kept the Stars in the game just long enough to allow the Stars to wake and play what would turn out to be an inspired and energetic third period and overtime. Dallas generated numerous scoring chances and were squandered by an exceptionally large and nimble goaltender and plain old bad luck. The Stars peppered Jonas Gustavsson in the final 34 minutes of play, and walked away with an improbable win.

Credit must go to the Toronto Maple Leafs as well, who certainly did not play like a team with just one win on the season. They were confident, fast and explosive and were riding the momentum of a big 6-3 win over Anaheim just a few nights prior. This was a game that past Stars teams might have choked away, but they worked hard and came away with their first winning streak since March.

In then end, the Stars got two big points against an Eastern Conference team so that extra point hardly matters to Dallas in the end. The win puts the Stars one point behind San Jose and Los Angeles in the Pacific and sets them up perfectly for the weekend as they take on Florida and Nashville in back to back home games.


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Today in Stargazing: We have a lengthy report for you today as players react to the slow start from last night, Marc Crawford hits a milestone, and Mike Ribeiro becomes yet another Stars player that everyone loves to hate.

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Despite not being named one of the stars of the game by Bob Sturm last night, James Neal had one heck of a game. He had to step up and provide energy from a team that was perhaps missing Steve Ott a bit too much, along with Brenden Morrow (who looked a bit off last night):

"He’s probably one of those guys who didn’t have his best stuff tonight," Crawford said. "Yet that’s the veteran quality of a Brenden Morrow; he recognized the team doesn’t have much, and he went out and played with a physical edge. He had a couple of huge hits. I think that allowed our guys to take notice. And that’s a lot of what Steve Ott brings.

"There were [other] people that tried, but they just couldn’t get there. Some of the guys on the fourth line [which was Brian Sutherby, call-up Francis Wathier and Krys Barch]. Some of the guys on the third line [which was Tom Wandell centering for Toby Petersen and Fabian Brunnstrom]. They had trouble getting there tonight."

Not Neal. The 22-year-old sophomore played a season-high 21:38 and now has goals in the last three games (to take the team lead with seven), points in the last four. Crawford said of him: "You get a little payback when you block a shot, when you battle for loose pucks, when you get in on the forecheck."

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Game Highlights:

 

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Pacific Standings

GP W L OTL PT
San Jose 13 8 4 1 17
Los Angeles 13 8 4 1 17
Dallas 12 6 2 4 16
Phoenix 11 7 4 0 14
Anaheim 10 3 6 1 7

(updated 10.29.2009 at 10:01 AM EDT)


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Mike Heika shares his observations:

What also speaks volumes is the fact Crawford kept throwing out his most effective players in the third period when his team needed a comeback. The Wathier-Sutherby-Barch line took a seat (after trying to create energy early) and the Ribeiro and Richards lines were rolled out. Ribeiro came through with an amazing redirection goal to tie the game, and then Richards and James Neal finished things off with the OT winner.

Inbetween, Marty Turco came up with some big saves when he had to have them and Stephane Robidas played 26:15, had four shots on goal, four hits and four blocked shots. He added an assist on the game-winning goal..

So did we learn anything from their lessons? I think we learned that this team is far from perfect, like most teams in the NHL. I think we learned that this team is better than it was a couple of weeks ago, when it couldn't raise its game in OT situations.

And that is a positive sign.

Mark Stepneski:

In the grand scheme of things, it’s a win. Give them credit for not playing particularly well, but finding a way get two points. Over the course of a season a good team, a playoff team is going to have to do that now and then.

On Jonas Gustavsson, I thought he was OK. He made some good saves, but he gave up some big rebounds too. He had that playing the puck gaffe that led to a penalty, but that’s just instinct taking over and not being quite used to that strange NHL rule. He’s had the heart issue and the groin injury, which has limited his playing time, so he’s still on a big time learning curve. He’ll continue to improve with time.

Bottom line it wasn’t pretty, but it was two points for the Stars. They’ve got 16 of 24 possible points so far this season. Those are important points in the bank, doesn’t matter whether they are pretty points or ugly points. Plus, they finally won consecutive games and they won one that went beyond regulation. 

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Don't look now, but Brad Richards and James Neal are on a roll:

- With his two points, Neal set a new career-high by extending his scoring streak to four games, during which he’s registered seven points (four goals, three assists). He also made a diving shot block at the final buzzer in regulation to help send the contest into overtime.

- With his two goals, Richards now has six points (two goals, four assists) in his last three outings. Despite missing two games due to injury, he leads the club in scoring with 15 points (five goals, 10 assists). He also led the squad with five shots on goal.

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Some news from the morning skate today:

Mike Modano and Jere Lehtinen both went through a full practice in Frisco and looked pretty good. Coach Marc Crawford said a decision will be made on them tomorrow, and listed them as questionable. Crawford said he doesn’t expect either Modano or Lehtinen to be ready to play both games of the back-to-back set this Friday and Saturday.

Brad Richards (groin), James Neal (groin) and Brenden Morrow (hip flexor) did not practice today so they could rest their injuries, but Crawford said they were all expected to play tomorrow.

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Marc Crawford will coach in his 1,000 game tomorrow night.

Dallas Stars Head Coach Marc Crawford will reach 1,000 NHL games as an NHL head coach this Friday, October 30, when the Stars host the Florida Panthers at American Airlines Center. Crawford will become just the 15th coach in NHL history to serve behind the bench for 1,000 games.

"It is an honor and a privilege to be a head coach in the National Hockey League," said Crawford. "Reaching 1,000 games as a head coach is something I am very proud of. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed each of the five great cities that I have coached in and I have a lot of good memories. I’d like to thank the general managers that I have worked for, that gave me the opportunity to work in this league – Cliff Fletcher in Toronto, Pierre Lacriox in Quebec & Colorado, Brian Burke & Dave Nonis in Vancouver, Dean Lombardi in Los Angeles, and Joe Nieuwendyk in Dallas.

"I’d also like to thank all of the people who have been a big part of everything over the years – the equipment guys, the trainers, the hockey staff, the assistant coaches – these are the people who do a lion’s share of the work behind the scenes. Without their dedication and commitment, I wouldn’t be where I am today. And of course I’d like to thank my wonderful wife Helene and my family for their love and support over the years."

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There will be a Brett Hull special on FSSW next week:

FOX Sports Southwest will televise a 30-minute special chronicling the Hall of Fame career of former Dallas Star Brett Hull on Wednesday, Nov. 4 at 7:00 PM CT as part of the network's SPOTLIGHT original programming series. The show premieres prior to Hull's Nov. 9 induction to the Hockey Hall of Fame and will be replayed several times throughout the season.

SPOTLIGHT: BRETT HULL HALL OF FAME will feature highlights from the two-time Stanly Cup Champion's 19-year NHL career and interviews with Hull and former Stars players and coaches, including Ken Hitchcock, Mike Modano, Joe Nieuwendyk, and Craig Ludwig.

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Quotes from last night:

"I think it showed they can be resilient. I think it also shows you can stay with the game. Not every game is going to be a masterpiece. Even though they didn't have their best stuff, they had enough to find a push. I think that speaks volumes to the group."

"You get through the first period where you haven't played well, it's the first game back after a long road trip, and it's been a bit of a layoff. Those are periods where you want to make sure you get through, and we did."

"We talked in the room after that there are lessons to be learned from games like this. It shows me that even though they didn't have their best stuff, they had enough to find a push. I think that speaks volumes to the group."

(On James Neal) "It’s a huge goal for him. We had talked all game long of the play of young Gustavsson, the goaltender. He does challenge, but there are rebounds that spray out, especially if you stay off to the side. It took us all that time to get one, and James was the benefactor of having a good habit and being in the right spot. You go to the right spot, good things happen."

"It was a great performance from Marty, he held us in it."

--Stars coach Marc Crawford

 

"It was a little bit of a lucky goal. I just put my stick there, it deflected and went in. The most important thing is to get those two points even though we didn't play well."

"I think we played really well through the third period and overtime, I think we dominated. Richie's [Brad Richards] line played a great game and Marty made the big saves at the right time, so it was a big team win."

"It’s hard to play against teams like that. They’re a quick team, they pass the puck real good, and I think mentally, you need to prepare yourself better for those games. You look at their standing and mentally, sometimes, you get off what you need to do and Friday’s going to be the same thing, so we need to be ready for that and have better starts."

"Benn came up, he didn’t have much, he couldn’t cycle the puck back, I decided to stay in the middle. With two or three minutes left, it’s a good play from him to just throw it at the net and I was just at the right place to tip that puck and it went right in the corner. It was a big goal."

--Mike Ribeiro

 

"I think our feet were stuck in quicksand a little bit. You know how it is when, overall, your team is not moving their feet and things snowball. Marty [Turco] did a good job in their. I think this game had a little bit of everything and we eventually had to show a little bit of composure and stay with it right to the end. We found a way."

--Brad Richards

 

 

"It shows the character of this team to come back. They score with six minutes left, kind of takes the energy out of our sails, but we managed to come back on a big goal by Ribs and we won it in OT, so it’s a big win for our team."

"I was right there for the rebound and put it in. It crossed the line pretty slow but I'll take it."

--James Neal

 

 

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Finally, it appears that Steve Ott is not the only member of the Stars that everyone hates:

Finally, so that I remember in the future, I want to once again formally express my disgust with Mike Ribeiro. I don't know if it's the fact that his name ends in a vowel or because his father taught him that 'gamesmanship' was acceptable in one sport so it can carry over to the good ol' Canadian game but his fake high stick schtick was sad to watch. It's bad enough when guys like Sidney Crosby, Bryan McCabe, Sean Avery, Derek Roy, and on and on dive but Ribeiro wasn't even touched. The league's crackdown on offences since the lockout has led to an increase in guys diving or clamping down on a player's stick to get a hooking call. Unfortunately, the speed of the game is too much for referees to be able to pick out every embellishment but they should be doing a better job when faced with known fakers. Not to mention that there should be a mechanism to punish these plays retroactively. Soccer still hasn't found a way to deal with it and it's the single-most frustrating thing to deal with. Basketball continues to encourage it and the games are increasingly unwatchable. Hockey's still facing a nascent problem but there will be an increase in the prevalence of these kinds of plays as power plays remain so important to creating offence.

We had a fun little back and forth last night on Twitter about Mike Ribeiro, which resulted in what I believe is a genius retort by Stanley Cup of Chowder.

@DefendingBigD Yeah, you should probably just change the name of your site to Defending Big D-Bags

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As I've said before...

I’ll be sure to try and lose some sleep over the other fact fans of other teams hate players on my favorite team… Especially if my team keeps winning.

by Art Middleton on Oct 29, 2009 3:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed.

I also loved how their analysis of the goals basically said all of ours were either complete flukes or only caused by Ribs’ embellishment (god forbid they kill off a 5-on-3), while all of theirs were “wicked” shots.

I hate living in Leaf land.

by LilEagle on Oct 29, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think

That high stick ‘dive’ might have been him just flinching, trying not to get hit by the stick heading for his face….but then again on the other hand, he might just have been trying to sell the call. Who knows.

by ibsurfer91932 on Oct 29, 2009 4:05 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

flinch

I believe it was a flinch. Who wouldn’t move their head back when you have a stick come inches from your face. All he did was move his head back a few inches. It wasn’t like he grabbed his face with his gloves or did anything else to try and “sell” it. I just think that we see so many
‘fakes/dives" now a days that that is people’s first reaction.

by chichitao on Oct 29, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ribero

It was a weasely thing to do and the last thing we need is to garner a rep for that kind of stuff, a la the Carolina Hurricanes “diving” team. That said, if your opponent likes you, are you doing your job? If an opponent likes playing against the Stars – it means the Stars are soft and are an easy win.

As far as the soft, flukey goals, all teams fans think that about goals scored against their team. As far as I am concerned Turco and Auld should stop each and every single shot on goal. The skaters in the NHL suck, except for the Stars, and therefore no one should ever score a goal. Obviously when they do, it’s because of some kind of bad call from the officials or because of Steve Ott when he’s not out pillaging and burning villages and clubbing baby seals.

Seriously, I could care less what other teams think about the Stars. I’d rather we beat them and they hate us then us sucking and them not giving a rat’s behind about playing us.

Sorry – still feeling snappy about our 2 points last night. :-) Love ya – hg

by Happy Girl on Oct 29, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions  

One thing I always thought about the Oilers of the past..

Players have always aid they like to play them. Why? Because the Oilers played a fast, free flowing style with little hitting. Is it any coincidence that the Oilers always missed the playoffs or at least barely squeeked into them year after year? No. If you aren’t feared or at the very least get your opponent thinking about how he doesn’t enjoy playing you, then you’re doomed.

Living up here I am numb to the Leafs, their fans and pretty much all of Ontario… I’ve always thought that if people ever want to get serious about stopping global warming, they’d find a way to put a lid on the hot air that comes out of Toronto.

by Art Middleton on Oct 29, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good teams win...even on off nights

Great comeback. That’s one thing I like to see, when the team comes out flat, but can manage a win. That’s the mark of a good team. I didn’t watch the whole game and thus missed the "Ribero Incident ", but I’m with Happy Girl, better to win and make people hate you because of jealousy than to lose.

Keep up the good work here!

by Big50 on Oct 29, 2009 4:13 PM CDT reply actions  

People are just jealous that we all we gave up for Ribs was a bag of pucks called Niinima :P

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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Oct 29, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Comment of the month.

You win!!!

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by Brandon Worley on Oct 29, 2009 5:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

The National Puck Association called. They’re very upset you compared them to Niinimaa. They feel they do provide more value than that waste of skates. :-)

I must have this thing for hockey boys from Whitby with the initials JN.

by Happy Girl on Oct 30, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

ribs didnt do anything wrong. He saw a stick coming towards his face and he flinched. Not once did he grab his face or really whip his head back.. all he did was flinch to miss the stick.

not his fault the ref couldn’t see it and called it a penalty. Is ribs supposed to say " oh no, he missed, its not a penalty"

born to destroy

by Lifewish on Oct 29, 2009 5:05 PM CDT reply actions  

The kid in that basketball ad...

Ya know the one where he goes to his coach and says “I touched the ball” to – I assume – cost his high school team the championship game and thus crush the one great moment at least five of them would have had in high school?

That kid fully expected Ribs to fess up.

Suddenly that ad makes a ton of sense to me… He’s a Maple Leafs fan.

by Art Middleton on Oct 29, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

Supporting your local ice troll, 24/7/365

by laughs2loud on Oct 29, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two things

Pierre McGuire, most biased announcing ever heard in one game. Cept he did seem to want to suck Richards and Robidas dicks. As well as Gustavsson, who he claimed made unbelievable scrambling saves during that breakdown near the end of the third, when replay after replay showed not ONE save. all the shots hit sticks or players.

And Ribs sold a call, the ref bought, they went on the PP and scored. GREAT PLAY. the refs blew it, which on those plays doesn’t happen that often. And the refs responded by not one but TWO non-highstick calls, one on Morrow and one on Grossman, that even Pierre said should have been penalties. and they happened in the same period.

Leafs fans, keep crying. Don’t like Ribeiro, that’s fine, enjoy jason blake.

by agvdstars on Oct 29, 2009 7:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Actually Blake impressed me last night.. He was good. it’s a big time improvement from where he was last year.

Ya know it sounds wrong, but the saying “If you aint cheating, you aint trying” does have a bunch of truth to it. That said, I too think Ribs flinched.

by Art Middleton on Oct 29, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just Keep Winning

Soooooooooo, the Leafs and apparently Mr. Worley don’t like Ribs. Oh, well, he is crafty and has been an asset to the team. I, like the other posters, don’t really care what anyone thinks about Ribs or Otter. They are getting results and they are valuable to this team. Wow, I would never, as a Stars fan, want to let it be known that I agree with another team when they are giving any of our players a bad review. Ribs and Otter are Stars and I am a Stars fan, therefore, I am a tremendous fan of those two players.

by StarsRule on Oct 30, 2009 3:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Who said I don't like Ribs?

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by Brandon Worley on Oct 30, 2009 5:36 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Some thoughts..

1. It’s hard to say whether Ribs flinched or sold it, but as others have said, he certainly didn’t go out of his way to sell it. And the refs absolutely ignored other calls afterwords, which is a shitty way to “make up” for it.

2. As far as other teams not liking the Stars…I always hated when the Wings would sell penalties and then be lauded as the greatest puck possess team. Well yeah, when you dive every time you don’t have the puck, you’re going to get it back. So if people feel that the team sells calls, I could understand that. But I definitely don’t see it happening often. If the Stars start looking like cheaters, I will come to resent the team.

3. McGuire and the other “analysts” on VS are horrible about being homers. One thing about the NFL- they’re usually very fair in announcing them. At least the “neutral” announcers. And they admit when they make a snap judgement about a call and it is a bad one, upon reflection. VS does NONE of that.

by jabudi on Oct 30, 2009 9:40 AM CDT reply actions  

“Finally, so that I remember in the future, I want to once again formally express my disgust with Mike Ribeiro. I don’t know if it’s the fact that his name ends in a vowel or because his father taught him that ‘gamesmanship’ was acceptable in one sport so it can carry over to the good ol’ Canadian game but his fake high stick schtick was sad to watch.”

The above is the reason for my comment, “Soooooooooo, the Leafs and apparently Mr. Worley don’t like Ribs.” DISGUST is a pretty strong term for a fan to use about a member of the hometown team. A synonym for “disgust” is “hatred.” Other synonyms are revulsion, repugnance, abhorrence, repulsion, antipathy, aversion and loathing. Now, each one of those words also mean hate, hatred and disgust, among other similar descriptions. So, if you disgust Ribs, well you can see where a person would get the idea that you don’t like him.

by StarsRule on Oct 30, 2009 11:22 AM CDT reply actions  

That comment is from something written on the Leafs blog..

By a Leafs fan. I was just reprinting what they wrote to convey how others feel. That certainly does not reflect my opinion towards Ribeiro. In fact…I think he’s woefully underrated in the NHL, and that may have to do with his past in Canada.

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by Brandon Worley on Oct 30, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Words in a green box..

Are a quote from someone else and not words from Brandon or any of of the other DBD staff.

by Art Middleton on Oct 30, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry

My apologies to you. I didn’t like Ribs when he first came but now I’m not sure we could do without him.

by StarsRule on Oct 31, 2009 2:17 PM CDT reply actions  

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