Updated: Steve Ott Will Have Hearing With Colin Campbell Tomorrow by Phone

by Brandon Bibb on Oct 26, 2009 4:26 PM CDT in Dallas Stars News

Steve Ott has a hearing with Colin Campbell tomorrow. Four-gamer (at least) is a possibility. This one will be interesting.

I'm assuming this will be a meeting of the face-to-face variety in New York since Friedman mentioned it'll be at least a four gamer.

I'll be most interested to hear what Campbell's explanation for the suspension will be. If it's for the kneeing incident, Ott's track record, etc. I'll probably be fine with it.

If his hit on Colaiacovo has any bearing on the suspension, however, I'll package my thoughts and ask you to tune into Defending Big D Live on Thursday night.

[Update #1]
Colin Campbell told reporters on Hockey Night in Canada that Rob Scuderi was fined today for his hit on Jason Chimera, while Ott is being summoned to New York to talk about his "hits' over the weekend. I'm just going to let that one speak for itself.

[Update #2]
Mike Heika is reporting that the hearing is by phone and that:

Nieuwendyk said he has no feeling on whether Ott could receive a suspension, just that the league said a lot of incidents had happened over the weekend and they are being proactive on them.

Perhaps we're overreacting a bit prematurely, based on that what Nieuwendyk has said. We shall find out tomorrow.

[Update #3]
Mark Stepneski has some quotes from Colin Campbell from his appearance on Hockey Night in Canada:

"We have our eye on him to the point that we have hearing with him on Tuesday," Campbell said. "Our eye has been on Steve Ott. He's a repeat offender. He's been involved in discipline. It's not something we had to deal with right away, so we'll talk about it. Where I am going to go on it, I don't know yet. I'll know afterwards."

Mark also said that the hearing tomorrow has to do with the hip check on Colaiacovo and not the knee on knee hit on Crombeen, when is what I believe to be much worse.

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So no matter what

he’s looking at a 4 game suspension minimum? More than the slew footing incident…

I suspect this conversation will have a lot to do with his play for the whole game. Unfortunatley, after that hit against Colaiacovo, he was a little too quick to drop his gloves.

I also think that if the refs had dished out the penalties a little more evenly (like an instigator to Ott instead of 2 roughing minors to the same Blues player), this would have been less likely to occur.

by Tsudbury on Oct 26, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions

I know what you mean

And like Art just mentioned on his Twitter account, Alex Ovechkin got nada for a slew foot earlier this year.

And yes, anytime a player gets summoned to New York for a hearing with Colin Campbell, it means it’ll be at least four games. Anything less is usually handled via a teleconference.

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by Brandon Bibb on Oct 26, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions

Just curious if you guys actually saw footage of the AO slew foot. It wasn’t anything close to the slew foot Artyukhin threw on Niskanen.

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by Rob Parker on Oct 27, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions

To answer your question

I have.

They look pretty similar to me. Of course, I wasn’t exactly clamoring for a suspension for Artyukhin when it happened. I was just miffed it wasn’t called a penalty on the ice because it was blatantly obvious.

And speaking of that suspension, Artyukhin isn’t exactly a repeat offender in Colin Campbell’s eyes (unless I’m mistaken). It just seems odd that Scuderi gets a pass because he’s not seen as a repeat offender, but Artyukhin wasn’t afforded the same pass.

We should all be used to this horribly inconsistent standard of doling out punishment I guess.

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by Brandon Bibb on Oct 27, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions

Artyukhin I believe is a two-time offender, before this. He’s definitely a repeat offender. I think one of them was a hit from behind, but I can’t recall the other.

The main difference I see between the two slew foots is that Artyukhin made no attempt to hit with his shoulder in a legitimate manner. AO led with his shoulder and was trying to muscle Peverly off the puck. It looked to me like Peverly gave AO a little more than he expected and put him off balance. That doesn’t excuse AO following through with his leg but I don’t think that’s what he went in there trying to do. Of course I’m biased but I think AO’s hit was definitely reckless, and should be penalized, but wasn’t dirty like Artyukhin’s. I didn’t see any point where Artyukhin was trying to make a legitimate hit on Niskanen, and it was also way later.

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by Rob Parker on Oct 28, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions

4 Games?

Am I reading that right? You got to be kidding me. If he gets 4 games for that, thats pretty lame. The hit didnt even do anything. BJ immeadiately went after Ott and engaged him in a fight… To give him 4days for a hit that didnt even cause injury, and you got Darcy Tucker that got injured and there was only 3days given to the offender.
I understand Ott has a past, but that hit wasnt nothing.

by k9mike on Oct 26, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions

Sorry, this is just BS!!! 4 games and there was no injury. Whatever….

by k9mike on Oct 26, 2009 5:15 PM CDT reply actions

I don't personally think bad hits should be punished according to injury....

The Scuderi hit last night on Chimera could have broken his neck, but he walked away with a cut brow.

Is the hit any better since Chimera wasn’t seriously injured? No.

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by Brandon Worley on Oct 26, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Alright

The face that Scuderi only got a fine already renders this suspension a joke.

Maybe we need to whine to the league about Tkachuk’s check from behind on Wandell Saturday night.

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by Brandon Bibb on Oct 26, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions

I wrote that above...

Before I heard the news about the fine.

I take it back.

I still don’t believe in punishment based on injury…..but the NHL punishment methods are an absolute joke…

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by Brandon Worley on Oct 26, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Maybe

They’ll fine Barch for hurting Kings hand with his face.

by Brad Gardner on Oct 26, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions

Spot on, BW. Injuries are far too infrequent and fluky to serve as a reliable marker for punishment. I see that Slava Kozlov hit on Scott Gomez and I see a play that needs to be punished whether or not Gomez got up. The fact that Gomez was lucky/skilled enough to prevent a broken neck doesn’t make that a good hit.

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by Rob Parker on Oct 27, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't even know what to say...

He deserved a suspension, but compared to other hits this weekend….sigh.

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by Brandon Worley on Oct 26, 2009 5:17 PM CDT reply actions

Damnit

We’re never going to be able to scratch Brunnstrom now…

;)

by Brad Gardner on Oct 26, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions

Hey everyone

How are yall doing?
Just wanted to say that over on Heika’s page it says it’s a phone hearing, not a face to face one.

by Kent K on Oct 26, 2009 5:36 PM CDT reply actions

Thanks Kent.

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by Brandon Worley on Oct 26, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions

I have mixed emotions about this. If the league wants to suspend Ott for the hit on Crombeen – fine. I still think the hit on the oft-injured Colaiacovo was legit. I do have serious concerns with someone’s history being called into judgment at these “meetings” with the league. If someone does something wrong, punish them then.

by Happy Girl on Oct 26, 2009 5:44 PM CDT reply actions

I agree

But, 4 days would be a joke. I would say 1 game would be suffice. The hit was nothing…it looked alot worse then it was. Did you see how fast Crombeen got up??? Geez… He is just getting a harder look because its him. Their dowling out of punishment is about as good as their officiating…lol

by k9mike on Oct 26, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions

the officiating in that game was horrible. I can also see after the activity that happened this weekend where the NHL might want to “crack down” and use Ott as the whipping post – based off his reputation. I just would hate to see Ott suspended for his past actions or because the NHL feels the need to make an example out of him. We need Ott in the lineup for a variety of reasons – not just his hitting.

by Happy Girl on Oct 26, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions

if they really wanted an example, ovechkin should have been sat for a couple games. if benching your best marketable player doesn’t show you’re serious, then I don’t know what would.

by SConn on Oct 26, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Neither hit left anyone seriously injured. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t believe that either Blues player had to go to the hospital. Both were fine.

If Otter gets suspended, it’s for reputation more than anything.

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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Oct 26, 2009 6:58 PM CDT reply actions

You should never

Base punishments off of injuries resulting from the act. That is just wrong, and unfortunately it’s something the league has done in the past.

If he gets suspended for say, 2 games, because of the Crombeen thing, then fine. I can live with that. You don’t screw with someone knee on knee.

If they even mention the Colaiacavo hit and do anything but fine him, then I think that’s a shame.

by Brad Gardner on Oct 26, 2009 7:26 PM CDT reply actions

My thoughts exactly.

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by Brandon Worley on Oct 26, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions

It’s nothing new guys. Stars players always get special treatment in this league. Malkin should of got a penalty last cup finals for one game for a penalty he took, but instead the league ignored it.

They’ll make statements on instigators like Ott and Avery. Doesn’t hurt the NHL, they look like they’re protecting their players.

by Why on Oct 26, 2009 7:44 PM CDT reply actions

Ott and Avery don’t sell tickets and don’t promote the NHL image. It’d be like killing Captain Kirk in an episode and letting the red shirt live. Ott and the others are just NHL redshirts.

by SConn on Oct 26, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions

This just sucks, because we need him right now. 1 game is enough. Enough said!

by k9mike on Oct 26, 2009 7:45 PM CDT reply actions

The league’s discipline system is shameful. If they’re going to penalize Ott, they need to do it for a hit that was actually bad. The league is just atrocious about these things.

Do I even need to bring up that stupid suspension Otter got for the eye gouge last season?

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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Oct 26, 2009 8:42 PM CDT reply actions

He deserved it for the eye gouge

I’m not even going to defend him on that one.

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by Brandon Bibb on Oct 26, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions

Oh no...

Reading the recent comments from that Hockey Night(update #3) I think were F****d…
:(

by k9mike on Oct 27, 2009 7:06 AM CDT reply actions

Doesn't have to do witht he article...

But if you didn’t know yet, the Leafs won against the Ducks!!! Now that they finally have that win, they can go back to their losing ways on Wednesday!!!

by Tsudbury on Oct 27, 2009 7:53 AM CDT reply actions