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Dallas Stars at St. Louis Blues, Oct 24, 2009 7:00 PM CDT


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Game 11: Dallas Stars @ St. Louis Blues

Saturday, October 24 2009 · 7:00 p.m. CT

Scottrade Center - St. Louis, Missouri

TV: My27 | Radio: 1310 The Ticket




A bit of an unconventional game thread tonight, because I wanted to combine the GDT with some news.

More after the jump.

Star-divide

First of all, Marty Turco will be in net for the Stars tonight and Ty Conklin will be in for the Blues. 

Second, Matt Niskanen will not be playing tonight. Neither Mike Modano nor Jere Lehtinen made the trip to St. Louis, so they won't be playing. Lehtinen is not progressing at all with his intercostal muscle injury, and there is still no telling when he might return.

This is the last game in a busy stretch for the Stars, who will have three games off before playing Wednesday. The hope is that Modano and Niskanen are ready to play then.

Projected lines (based on lines used before the Ott and Richards injuries):

Morrow - Ribeiro - Benn
Neal - Richards - Erksson
Ott - Wandell - Brunnstrom
Barch - Sutherby - Petersen

Things to watch for:

  • A backed down defense: We've seen a trend start to develop with these Stars. The defense has been good to great in open ice defense, rarely allowing forwards to to get by them through the neutral zone. Yet when the play gets close to the net, the defense backs off and an open road is paved for a clean skate to the goal. The majority of goals allowed this season have been from within five feet of the net, and the defensemen seem almost tentative to get physical and control their territory around their net.
  • Get some shots!! The Stars have been stymied lately and haven't peppered the opposing goaltender like we'd expect such them to. Expect Crawford to put the fear into these forwards to make sure the get the shot on net.
  • Turco. He's played better as of late, but needs to continue to improve. Slowly he's returned to near the form we expect him to be at.

I won't be able to join in the game thread tonight, and will be watching on DVR later. Go Stars!!!!!!!!!

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Go Stars!

Finally a game staring at a decent time for those of us in east coast time. I hope the Stars can pull out a big WIN! Miss you Brandon. Happy Saturday everyone!

by Happy Girl on Oct 24, 2009 5:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Go Stars… lets close out a tough road schedule with a win!

by KStars on Oct 24, 2009 6:54 PM CDT reply actions  

No TJ Oshie

And while I hate to see anyone hurt, I gotta admit he killed the Stars last season, so I don’t mind not seeing him in this game

First goal? I’m thinking a Stars win and the Stars win when they score first, so: I’ll go with James Neal.

4-3 Stars.

by Art Middleton on Oct 24, 2009 7:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Barch got owned.

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by RyanM on Oct 24, 2009 7:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Did he ever!

Heart willing… Fists and ability not so much.

by Art Middleton on Oct 24, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Puck is one point.
Goalie is two points.
Ref is three points.

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by RyanM on Oct 24, 2009 7:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Link?

Anyone got a live video stream for the game?

by modano9 on Oct 24, 2009 7:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Try...

Atdhe.net

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by RyanM on Oct 24, 2009 7:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

they had it on there 5 minutes before the start, but it never worked and its off now

by modano9 on Oct 24, 2009 7:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Weird, they are usualy reliable. Instead, go to myp2p.eu, select live sports, ice hockey, NHL games today and find the stars game. They will have a complete list of tonights streams.

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by RyanM on Oct 24, 2009 7:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well, looks like just the radio…:(

by k9mike on Oct 24, 2009 7:28 PM CDT reply actions  

no links on there either

by modano9 on Oct 24, 2009 7:30 PM CDT reply actions  

TURCO!!!

He stops pucks on breakaways!!

by Art Middleton on Oct 24, 2009 7:39 PM CDT reply actions  

I have this theory

That you only get so many quality chances in a hockey game, and if you use them all up before scoring a goal, you’re just kind of screwed.

The Stars used up most of their quality chances in that period and have nothing to show for it.

by Brad Gardner on Oct 24, 2009 7:46 PM CDT reply actions  

oh Scratch… you are a team guy! Block everything…

by KStars on Oct 24, 2009 7:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Really like to see Ott get something going for that line.

by k9mike on Oct 24, 2009 7:53 PM CDT reply actions  

we could use some of his energy for sure

by Happy Girl on Oct 24, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

have a great time! i was at a wine tasting earlier today – so my apologies for any misspelled words or stupid, random thoughts. :-)

by Happy Girl on Oct 24, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Faceoffs are 9-9

That’s not good.. but then not bad considering how this team has been.

by Art Middleton on Oct 24, 2009 8:02 PM CDT reply actions  

I guess

The saintly Blues will never take a penalty.

by Brad Gardner on Oct 24, 2009 8:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Too slow

Everything is too slow.

The Blues are SO much fast than Dallas.

by Brad Gardner on Oct 24, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions  

neal

if i were female, i’d want to have neal’s babies..

by SConn on Oct 24, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions  

as a female, I lol’d

by Happy Girl on Oct 24, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not only did I call that, but...

Moments before I posted this on twitter for some good karma http://twitpic.com/mtjvz

by Art Middleton on Oct 24, 2009 8:17 PM CDT reply actions  

dude was diving… where’s his penalty?

by SConn on Oct 24, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah that’s b.s. hit was coming right at him and he did his little flip just to get the call.

by SConn on Oct 24, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Otter! some one luvs ya!

by KStars on Oct 24, 2009 8:22 PM CDT reply actions  

or piss them off into more roughing penalties :)

by SConn on Oct 24, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.

This has been a crazy 2nd period so far.

Supporting your local ice troll, 24/7/365

by laughs2loud on Oct 24, 2009 8:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Can't agree with that Crombeen call..

If you call Crombeen then they should have called Ott..

As it was good PK for the Blues.. Stars just didn’t move the puck around enough.

by Art Middleton on Oct 24, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

BUT I LIKE IT!!!

Good job, petulant little ice troll!

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by laughs2loud on Oct 24, 2009 8:29 PM CDT reply actions  

you’re missing a whole mess of awesome.

by SConn on Oct 24, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

"a whole mess of awesome"

I think Razor would approve of that comment. :)

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by laughs2loud on Oct 24, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Razor did bring his A game tonight so far, for sure.

by Brad Gardner on Oct 24, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions  

i enjoyed the fact he brought up that dallas should be in the central division.. i’ve been complaining about that for years now..

by SConn on Oct 24, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Coliacovo is out

yeah i can’t spell his name

by Happy Girl on Oct 24, 2009 8:34 PM CDT reply actions  

holy crap

i hope that didn’t hurt neal..

by SConn on Oct 24, 2009 8:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Heh...

Little bit of a dive by Neal there…

by Art Middleton on Oct 24, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

it’s only a dive when other teams do it..

by SConn on Oct 24, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Solid second!

Again another good road period!

by Art Middleton on Oct 24, 2009 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Thank you, Otter.

He has been up to his old irritating self.

Ah! Oh, how we have missed seeing that.

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by laughs2loud on Oct 24, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not to be critical

but I’d still like to see us get more shots on goal during the PP

by Happy Girl on Oct 24, 2009 8:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed.

Not enough movement or shots on that 5 on 3 PP for my liking.

by Art Middleton on Oct 24, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stars… Nice game so far!

by KStars on Oct 24, 2009 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Long road trip… still hanging in there

by KStars on Oct 24, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Like a dwarf in a urinal. Razor.

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by laughs2loud on Oct 24, 2009 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

i’ve got the whiny blues crew. i want razor!

by Happy Girl on Oct 24, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am loving the game that Ott is playing tonight – nasty and good energy

by Happy Girl on Oct 24, 2009 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

It should be...

Blues haven’t given them much to cheer about.

Stars haven’t given the Blues much to give the Blues something to give the fans something to cheer about.

by Art Middleton on Oct 24, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was worried bout this team, they are a good young team, but we are as well…. Nice!

by KStars on Oct 24, 2009 9:11 PM CDT reply actions  

That goal

Is not the best thing that happened this period.

Brunnstrom getting crosschecked and Razors “like a dwarf at a urinal” comment are tops for me. ;)

by Brad Gardner on Oct 24, 2009 9:12 PM CDT reply actions  

um who’s on the PP here boys

by Happy Girl on Oct 24, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions  

momentum

we just killed theirs :)

by SConn on Oct 24, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions  

BEAUTIFUL!!!

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by laughs2loud on Oct 24, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes Sudsi! good on ya!

by KStars on Oct 24, 2009 9:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Razor's right

Credit Razor a lot for getting this thing rolling the right way.

by Brad Gardner on Oct 24, 2009 9:20 PM CDT reply actions  

He was big in the first period!

Without some of those saves, this game may have been different.

by Art Middleton on Oct 24, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

These PPs

Will hurt their numbers, but it’s just not the same.

by Brad Gardner on Oct 24, 2009 9:21 PM CDT reply actions  

oh Turks… you rock my man

by KStars on Oct 24, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Solid defense by Fisty there as well..

Did enough to hinder Boyes but not enough to take a penalty.

by Art Middleton on Oct 24, 2009 9:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Any chance

That Phoenix/L.A. game isn’t going to be a three point affair?

by Brad Gardner on Oct 24, 2009 9:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Damnit Woywitka

Look at those idiots cheering like it matters.

At the AAC, down by 4 with 3 to play…no one’s standing up.

by Brad Gardner on Oct 24, 2009 9:31 PM CDT reply actions  

whatevs Blues…..

by KStars on Oct 24, 2009 9:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Well...

It was his first goal. I’d cheer for that.

by Brad Gardner on Oct 24, 2009 9:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Dallas

Could easily have 7 tonight.

by Brad Gardner on Oct 24, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions  

st louis could have more than 1 if not for turco

by Happy Girl on Oct 24, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aulds had an exciting game!

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by RyanM on Oct 24, 2009 9:35 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I don't wanna say that was a dirty hit...

But Ott sure didn’t make any effort to get his knee out of the way either…

It’ll be interesting to see if Ott gets punished for that.

by Art Middleton on Oct 24, 2009 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

i like otter but i thought it was a cheap shot

by Happy Girl on Oct 24, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that one may cost him in more than one way, if he aggravated his injury and gets a punishment.

Otter has a hard time knowing where to draw the line.

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by laughs2loud on Oct 24, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well. That was fun. :)

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by laughs2loud on Oct 24, 2009 9:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Its funny to me...

how the blues fans seemed to overlook all the crosschecking going on by their team all night long.

Yes, Ott did seem to go a little too far with that last hit. He should have tried to get his legs out of the way. But at the same time, I dont think it was his intention to cut it that close. hitting knees like that can be equally bad for both players.

But with all the fighting going on, you know he had to be worked up, since 21 players in blue were already gunning for him at that point anyways…

Really wish I had the option of listening to Razor. I think I might try and listen to the audio later just to hear what he has to say…

by Tsudbury on Oct 24, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well said.

Apparently, they don’t recognize crosschecking and/or boarding in Bluesland.

After watching Ott’s hit on Crombeen in slow mo, several times now (hub enjoys getting full use of that remote/DVR), I don’t think Ott was going for his knee. Tripping, maybe, but not intentional kneeing.

I read the GDT of the St Louis blog. Really made me appreciate DBD. Thanks Brandon, et al, for what you have created here. And thank you to all the commenters here, who have a real vocabulary and know how to use it.

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by laughs2loud on Oct 24, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are sad, your words were trifling…Stars really stepped up this go round!!

by KStars on Oct 24, 2009 10:00 PM CDT reply actions  

steve ott

is a disgrace, i mean seriously i didn’t think you could go lower than avery, but then ott sets up that limbo bar, bends like beckham and proves me wrong.

by mikefuckingdantonthatswhy on Oct 25, 2009 12:20 AM CDT reply actions  

How many minutes after that

sweet hip check was that?

I want to mark that on the DVR and I hoped you could help me find when it was, in relation to that that awesome check on Colaiacovo?

by Brad Gardner on Oct 25, 2009 2:04 AM CDT reply actions  

So that's why The Chief refers to you all as the Bitter Bitch Blues fans

You know, hip check are still legal guys. And it’s not like the fragile Coliachivo didn’t see him coming.

Might have been a bit late, but you know what you’re getting with him.

And for Blues fans to complain about Ott after Dallas Drake played for them for so many years…

Hypocrisy be thy name.

by Brandon Bibb on Oct 25, 2009 8:31 AM CDT reply actions  

The difference between a good clean hip check and a cheap late low bridging is the player getting hipchecked has the puck. Anybody can low bridge a guy without the puck not expecting a low hit. Watch some of Bobby Plager’s hip checks to see how its done cleanly using some skill.

Ott will get his due in time.

Some days its just not worth chewing through the restraints

by spectr17 on Oct 25, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had no problem with the hip check, actually.

My issue was throwing down the gloves before anyone was actually coming to go after him (Petro was close but unsure of intention). It’s as if he knew he did something wrong.

It’s like in football . . . if the defensive back/linebacker puts his hands up as if he pushed a guy before the ball got to the receiver, he draws a flag just about every time. I’d really prefer that not reach the NHL ranks . . . we all know there’s enough EPL BS going on with diving and such.

One day, David Backes and Albert Pujols will combine forces to become the most awesome piece of violent force known to man.

by Donut King on Oct 25, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice finish to a road trip

Glad we were able to finish off this road trip with a W. I understand the frustration of the blues fans but the Stars have also had games with the same things. Seriously, all teams have games where they feel the refs are against them. All teams have games where players get injured, be it with legal hits (Ott’s hip check) or questionable hits (the knee on knee). I think every Stars fan who was a fan of this team in 1998 understands how devastating a knee on knee hit can be. The key is how you deal with the adversity.

Should make our next game against St. Louis interesting.

by Happy Girl on Oct 25, 2009 8:55 AM CDT reply actions  

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